Jype 6,398 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Vesper said: our wage bill is overall reasonable, with some exceptions for some the shit buys, but unlike Barca, our mistakes are on £100-120K per week, not £300K, £400K PW Yep. Chelsea's wages to turnover ratio is somewhere around 65-70% in the last few years despite having some deadwood who get paid to do nothing (the likes of Drinkwater). Without the deadwood it would obviously be much better, but even the 70% is quite healthy. Barcelona president today said their wage to turnover is 110% so for every euro they make they spend 1,10€ on wages and that's not even counting other expenses the club have. Without Messi's absurd salary that percentage supposedly goes down to 95% but even so their situation is very, very serious and that's why they're so desperate for the Super League. Edited August 6, 2021 by Jype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,270 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 16 hours ago, Pizy said: Saw someone on another forum suggest this is a planned power play from Barca to get La Liga to change the salary cap situation. They scare the league into thinking their biggest draw is leaving, they relax the salary cap rules, and then suddenly Messi decides to come back to Barca after all. IF La Liga caves in, they are done. One club can NEVER become bigger than a league, or that league will soon collapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warning_Hazard 156 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: IF La Liga caves in, they are done. One club can NEVER become bigger than a league, or that league will soon collapse. Doubt it, More likely they will just adjust the scam that is FFP to suit this kind of stuff in fear of whats on the horizon! Super league howling in the wind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Howling at Barca...this is fucking great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,119 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Blues Forever said: They could sign Messi and sell Mbappe. They wont sell Mbappe 4 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: There was an investigation once bc PSG kept offsetting their losses with Qatar money that was declared as sponsorship money. But they then bribed the UEFA duds so they declared "all is fine". Now they have a free pass. And even have that cunt Khalif or whatever his name is in the uefa board.....its fucking retarded 35 minutes ago, milka said: it is clear where he is going 😉 Talks between Lionel Messi and PSG are progressing well. PSG believe they have a good chance of closing the deal and can afford to sign him without breaking FFP rules. (Source: @SkyKaveh ) Lmao, yeah sure they will be within FFP limits...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jype said: Yep. Chelsea's wages to turnover ratio is somewhere around 65-70% in the last few years despite having some deadwood who get paid to do nothing (the likes of Drinkwater). Without the deadwood it would obviously be much better, but even the 70% is quite healthy. Barcelona president today said their wage to turnover is 110% so for every euro they make they spend 1,10€ on wages and that's not even counting other expenses the club have. Without Messi's absurd salary that percentage supposedly goes down to 95% but even so their situation is very, very serious and that's why they're so desperate for the Super League. Is this based on the current situation with much lower turnover due to Covid? If this was their standard position in a non Covid time, how is it possible to comply with FFP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,350 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Laporta: "Without Messi, the wage bill is 95% compared to the club's income." Thats ridiculous but it is what happens when you pay Umtiti and Roberto 24m per year each before tax. Not so much mercenary Messi as inept, greedy board ...same as Inter...same as most top clubs. Just appointees on 'who they know' greedy multimillionaires, who as we saw with the Super Shit League dont give a flying monkeyspunk fuck about fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,350 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Re Lukaku - China bank Corp. just sued Inter and owner, Steven Zhang for 255 million dollars on unpaid bank dues. I feel bad for Inter's fans though, for the mismanagement by Suning but it was coming. Conspiracy theorists might say China having moved into football in a big way is undermining its rivals -European football. After all its all about the money - how much a few can get out of it, and you realise Continents are squabbling over it as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,823 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Re Lukaku - China bank Corp. just sued Inter and owner, Steven Zhang for 255 million dollars on unpaid bank dues. I feel bad for Inter's fans though, for the mismanagement by Suning but it was coming. Conspiracy theorists might say China having moved into football in a big way is undermining its rivals -European football. After all its all about the money - how much a few can get out of it, and you realise Continents are squabbling over it as well They really do need to sell. Fan protests do not mean as much when you are about to lose everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Can PSG legally even pass FFP if they get Messi? Isnt he on like 1 million a week or something? Add that to their other wages Neymar, Mbappe, Ramos, Donnarumma to name a few.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, chelsea_4_eva said: Can PSG legally even pass FFP if they get Messi? Isnt he on like 1 million a week or something? Add that to their other wages Neymar, Mbappe, Ramos, Donnarumma to name a few.. The look on Neymar face when he escaped Barca only to have PSG sign Messi on higher wages. Wherever he goes, he can't escape this guys shadow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,823 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, chelsea_4_eva said: Can PSG legally even pass FFP if they get Messi? Isnt he on like 1 million a week or something? Add that to their other wages Neymar, Mbappe, Ramos, Donnarumma to name a few.. I have read several times that because they are writing a new FFP plan and cannot give teams a definitive guideline, this year will be forgiven. If you are going to blow up your budget, this is the year to do so. Next season is supposed to be well defined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 41 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: They wont sell Mbappe And even have that cunt Khalif or whatever his name is in the uefa board.....its fucking retarded Lmao, yeah sure they will be within FFP limits...... Either PSG sell Mbappe now or let him walk for free next summer. PSG don't have strong leverage, Mbappe hold all the card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,327 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said: Re Lukaku - China bank Corp. just sued Inter and owner, Steven Zhang for 255 million dollars on unpaid bank dues. I feel bad for Inter's fans though, for the mismanagement by Suning but it was coming. Conspiracy theorists might say China having moved into football in a big way is undermining its rivals -European football. After all its all about the money - how much a few can get out of it, and you realise Continents are squabbling over it as well Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 This is 100 percent happening, confirmed by Matt Law on the podcast. His girlfriend is in London and up until two weeks ago he was content at Milan but the force of Chelsea and Tuchel speaking to him has sold it to him. He has asked Inter to let him leave and they won't stand in his way. The deal is on the verge of being announced and Lukaku could fly to London this weekend. This isn't just the club wanting him but the coach too. bigbluewillie and Atomiswave 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,823 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mário César said: Source? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-04/suning-creditors-sue-to-recoup-255-million-from-troubled-firm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,327 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 #Calciomercato #Schira - #Marotta and #Ausilio waiting to hear from #Suning the reinvestable budget deriving from the sale of Romelu #Lukaku to #Chelsea. #Zhang intends to spend only 30% (about forty million). 2 attackers in the sights (one on loan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 42 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Is this based on the current situation with much lower turnover due to Covid? If this was their standard position in a non Covid time, how is it possible to comply with FFP? Before Covid their situation was not as disastrous as now, but still quite unsustainable. I remember in 2019 when they signed Griezmann they funded the signing with a short-term bank loan with high interest rates so the financial mismanagement goes back way before the pandemic. Because Messi's salary has always been outrageously high their squad players also make more than star players at other clubs, and that's why they are having problems shipping anyone out. Obviously pre-covid they must have thought they would get away with the recklessness it if they just invest a bit more money and get the team back to their winning ways but then covid happened and their situation moved from bad to worse. Laporta just said the club are projecting losses of €487M (!!!) for the last financial year. They were already neck deep in debts that they can't pay back so I don't think many banks will grant them any more credit either. From everything I've read on the matter it sounds they need a miracle to even survive the next couple of years without the whole club going under. Either the Spanish government will have to bail them out (which would be questionable given the whole nation is deep in debt as well and always need more money from EU) or they'll have to sell out to the sheikhs or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,633 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, Hashishi said: The look on Neymar face when he escaped Barca only to have PSG sign Messi on higher wages. Wherever he goes, he can't escape this guys shadow. pretty sure neymar is one of the main reasons of why messi is going to psg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,985 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, Special Juan said: This is 100 percent happening, confirmed by Matt Law on the podcast. His girlfriend is in London and up until two weeks ago he was content at Milan but the force of Chelsea and Tuchel speaking to him has sold it to him. He has asked Inter to let him leave and they won't stand in his way. The deal is on the verge of being announced and Lukaku could fly to London this weekend. This isn't just the club wanting him but the coach too. Nice. Now hopefully Koundé follows quickly afterwards. Having both in for match week 1 would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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