Chelsea Transfers

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

7 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

He saved more shots last season than Sanchez and petro combined if that helps at all 🤣

True but in a team that conceded the most chances/shots IIRC. If he is better than Sanchez & Petrovic its a start but just get the feeling he is going to be another guy we eventually upgrade on. 

Edited August 1, 2024 by OneMoSalah

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16 hours ago, LAM09 said:

EMR played 13 league games last season and did not score a goal. Gallagher, on the other hand, played 37 league games, scored five goals, and is an English INT player.

Are you telling me that one year puts them on par in terms of value?

Also, our asking price is €35m~. Crazy!

We tried to sell him for a decent price but he didn’t move. Now we sell him this month or risk getting nothing. How are people believing we will get any more money for Connor? There is no market 

[King Kante 1,643]

20 minutes ago, Strike said:

We tried to sell him for a decent price but he didn’t move. Now we sell him this month or risk getting nothing. How are people believing we will get any more money for Connor? There is no market 

Well tbf, it looks like the club offered him a one year extension plus an optional year. That is piss take after the way he got his head down since he came back and the way we go around buying no marks and giving them long contracts for big fees.  

Do not blame him at all if he runs down his contract now. Clownlake at its finest on display in this situation.

[Pizy 18,926]

Yeah, it definitely seems to me like Gallagher is going to reject everyhting and fuck us over here. 

[Mhsc 1,097]

11 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Yeah, it definitely seems to me like Gallagher is going to reject everyhting and fuck us over here. 

I don't blame him tbh. If the club don't value or respect you why should you do them any favours?

I'd 100% do the same. He can get a HUGE signing fee in a years time and go onto huge wages that will set him up for life, or force the club to make him a proper contract offer that will do similar and keep him at the club he fundamentally wants to be at.

Feels very different to the Mason Mount situation given he was offered a very long deal on tonnes of money and it wasn't enough for him and he thought he was literally the dogs bollocks and had no real interest in staying at Chelsea except for money and couldn't wait to get out. Gallagher's stance has been exactly correct (whether it is true or not who knows): this is the club I love and I just want to stay and be part of it, offer me a long term deal on par with my peers and you'll have my loyalty forever.

Honestly Chelsea boys like Gallagher and Chalobah I just wish the best for them personally man they've done nothing but be servants for the club and represented us with pride since they were kids, living the dream that lots of us had growing up following Chels. Neither of them out there trying to build some kind of brand for themselves or think they're bigger than the club. They just want what is fair.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

3 hours ago, King Kante said:

Well tbf, it looks like the club offered him a one year extension plus an optional year. That is piss take after the way he got his head down since he came back and the way we go around buying no marks and giving them long contracts for big fees.  

Do not blame him at all if he runs down his contract now. Clownlake at its finest on display in this situation.

They apparently did the same to Mount after he rejected a longer term deal also so they could try generate a higher fee with a daft contract extension offer of like a 1 or 2 year deal. Connors scenario is different as it isn’t financially driven though. Can tell he has genuinely wanted to stay for longer than 12 months now based on all the talk and his actions last season.

In a squad where most players between 18-24 are getting 5+ year deals minimum, a 2 year deal with option of another season probably indicates that the club will continue to try sell him. If he was part of long term plan why not offer him a longer deal? 

Irrespective of what people think of him and Chalobah too, seems the club are literally doing their utmost to push them out of the door purely for profit. Which other club would you see 2 academy graduates who could definitely have a part here in some capacity, even as squad players, being so actively pushed out the door? 

This mentality the new ownership group and sporting directors have shown with this is certainly questionable. Looks like there is no loyalty or respect to players who have come through the system. Which is going to filter down to other academy players - even with Omari leaving also.

1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Yeah, it definitely seems to me like Gallagher is going to reject everyhting and fuck us over here. 

Woukd you accept a 2+1 year contract here? Particularly aged 24 when everyone else seems to be getting 5+ year deals as a minimum?

After all the talk the club are actively looking to sell you for the past 12+ months? Lets not forget the club also tried to sell him to Everton last January.

The 2+1 deal just gives the club a chance to ask for more £ to sell him, that is clearly the objective. But yes lets spin it and say the player is trying to fuck us over… 

Edited August 1, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[Pizy 18,926]

45 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

I don't blame him tbh. If the club don't value or respect you why should you do them any favours?

I'd 100% do the same. He can get a HUGE signing fee in a years time and go onto huge wages that will set him up for life, or force the club to make him a proper contract offer that will do similar and keep him at the club he fundamentally wants to be at.

Feels very different to the Mason Mount situation given he was offered a very long deal on tonnes of money and it wasn't enough for him and he thought he was literally the dogs bollocks and had no real interest in staying at Chelsea except for money and couldn't wait to get out. Gallagher's stance has been exactly correct (whether it is true or not who knows): this is the club I love and I just want to stay and be part of it, offer me a long term deal on par with my peers and you'll have my loyalty forever.

Honestly Chelsea boys like Gallagher and Chalobah I just wish the best for them personally man they've done nothing but be servants for the club and represented us with pride since they were kids, living the dream that lots of us had growing up following Chels. Neither of them out there trying to build some kind of brand for themselves or think they're bigger than the club. They just want what is fair.

 

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

They apparently did the same to Mount after he rejected a longer term deal also so they could try generate a higher fee with a daft contract extension offer of like a 1 or 2 year deal. Connors scenario is different as it isn’t financially driven though. Can tell he has genuinely wanted to stay for longer than 12 months now based on all the talk and his actions last season.

In a squad where most players between 18-24 are getting 5+ year deals minimum, a 2 year deal with option of another season probably indicates that the club will continue to try sell him. If he was part of long term plan why not offer him a longer deal? 

Irrespective of what people think of him and Chalobah too, seems the club are literally doing their utmost to push them out of the door purely for profit. Which other club would you see 2 academy graduates who could definitely have a part here in some capacity, even as squad players, being so actively pushed out the door? 

This mentality the new ownership group and sporting directors have shown with this is certainly questionable. Looks like there is no loyalty or respect to players who have come through the system.

Woukd you accept a 2+1 year contract here? Particularly aged 24 when everyone else seems to be getting 5+ year deals as a minimum?

After all the talk the club are actively looking to sell you for the past 12+ months? Lets not forget the club also tried to sell him to Everton last January.

The 2+1 deal just gives the club a chance to ask for more £ to sell him, that is clearly the objective. But yes lets spin it and say the player is trying to fuck us over… 

If the manager came in and told me “mate, you’re a great player and I like you but you’re not in my plans and I’m going a different direction,” I would be really sad and disappointed but then I’d seek out the best destination for myself straight away. Instead, he may just run his contract down and waste an entire season likely not playing at all? In his prime years?

I mean, yeah, from a financial POV it’s beneficial for him. But to waste an entire season being a bit part player who will probably only see action in the Conference League is silly. Especially if he wants to stay in the picture for the national team where his place is already tenuous. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

47 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

I don't blame him tbh. If the club don't value or respect you why should you do them any favours?

They gave him wages on par with the highest earners in midfield, how is that disrespecting him?    

 

4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Woukd you accept a 2+1 year contract here? Particularly aged 24 when everyone else seems to be getting 5+ year deals as a minimum?

A bit different when the rest of the players are new signings and the club is only giving them 5+ year deals for accounting purposes. 

Being 24 and getting a 3 year deal is actually better for the player as they'll be a free agent at 26/27 (which in most cases is the start of your career peak, especially for midfielders).   He's not a top tier talent like Reece or Colwill.  

Just now, Pizy said:

Especially if he wants to stay in the picture for the national team where his place is already tenuous. 

His England national team chances will only get worse depending upon who takes over from Southgate.  Declan & Mainoo are going to be the starting mids for years, and then you got Wharton who will continue to develop and there's plenty of U-21 talent as well. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

54 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

Honestly Chelsea boys like Gallagher and Chalobah I just wish the best for them personally man they've done nothing but be servants for the club and represented us with pride since they were kids, living the dream that lots of us had growing up following Chels. Neither of them out there trying to build some kind of brand for themselves or think they're bigger than the club. They just want what is fair.

If they were happy to be squad players, I'm sure it would have worked out for player and club.   Both of them are limited players in their respective positions. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

4 hours ago, King Kante said:

From my perspective if my employer clearly never valued me, tried numerous times to try and push me to go elsewhere, then tried to get me to sign up when they thought there was something in it for them, then I would also be of the mind of 'pay me properly, with real assurances, or I will fuck you back'. 

Seems like that's what the club did...offered him bumper wages on a shorter deal? 

You would think even Gallagher would see the picture with so much younger talent around the team and on loan/development....that his minutes would come down in the next 2 seasons. 

[King Kante 1,643]

3 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

They gave him wages on par with the highest earners in midfield, how is that disrespecting him?    

 

A bit different when the rest of the players are new signings and the club is only giving them 5+ year deals for accounting purposes. 

Being 24 and getting a 3 year deal is actually better for the player as they'll be a free agent at 26/27 (which in most cases is the start of your career peak, especially for midfielders).   He's not a top tier talent like Reece or Colwill.  

His England national team chances will only get worse depending upon who takes over from Southgate.  Declan & Mainoo are going to be the starting mids for years, and then you got Wharton who will continue to develop and there's plenty of U-21 talent as well. 

Do you actually believe that? The deal put to him is all about the club protecting his transfer value and they will continue to push him to the door. His decision is really, do I sign and allow Clearlake take a bigger fee for me, or do I run it out and take the fee Clearlake would get for me of I sign? 

Making out him signing the new deal would mean the club would stop trying to sell him is either incredibly naive or disingenuous. If anything, him signing a deal like that would increase thwir intensity of pushing him towards the door. 

[Pizy 18,926]

6 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

They gave him wages on par with the highest earners in midfield, how is that disrespecting him?    

 

A bit different when the rest of the players are new signings and the club is only giving them 5+ year deals for accounting purposes. 

Being 24 and getting a 3 year deal is actually better for the player as they'll be a free agent at 26/27 (which in most cases is the start of your career peak, especially for midfielders).   He's not a top tier talent like Reece or Colwill.  

His England national team chances will only get worse depending upon who takes over from Southgate.  Declan & Mainoo are going to be the starting mids for years, and then you got Wharton who will continue to develop and there's plenty of U-21 talent as well. 

If he goes to a big club like Atleti and is an important player for a CL and league challenging side he can lock down an England place. If he stays here and has a season off basically he’s probably never getting back into the England side.

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

Just now, King Kante said:

Do you actually believe that? The deal put to him is all about the club protecting his transfer value and they will continue to push him to the door. His decision is really, do I sign and allow Clearlake take a bigger fee for me, or do I run it out and take the fee Clearlake would get for me of I sign? 

Making out him signing the new deal would mean the club would stop trying to sell him is either incredibly naive or disingenuous. If anything, him signing a deal like that would increase thwir intensity of pushing him towards the door. 

Could he not sign the new deal (take the nice wage packet) and then ask to leave in the next transfer window?

At least that way he gets to train and keep his fitness rather than being stuck in the reserves for a whole season until he walks out on a free 

[King Kante 1,643]

Just now, Reddish-Blue said:

Seems like that's what the club did...offered him bumper wages on a shorter deal? 

You would think even Gallagher would see the picture with so much younger talent around the team and on loan/development....that his minutes would come down in the next 2 seasons. 

A) we don't know the wage offer and how this compares to what he would get elsewhere. 

B ) they've not provided him with assurance by making the deal so short. 

Gallagher clearly wants long term commitment here, or the biggest deal elsewhere. He is perfectly right to feel that and more importantly gone about things in the right way - I.e. the way be played last season when the club kept trying to sell him. A lot of players down tools or take the easy money straight away. 

[Mhsc 1,097]

I would imagine he would be looking at it as "I can break into this team and play this year" which is exactly the mentality you've got to have as a top player.

If he chooses to leave then I'm happy for him, if he chooses to stay then I'm happy for him. He seems like a good guy and we lose a bit of our identity when guys like this leave the club. It is not his fault the style of play has moved away from the one he excels in.

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

1 minute ago, King Kante said:

A) we don't know the wage offer and how this compares to what he would get elsewhere. 

B ) they've not provided him with assurance by making the deal so short. 

Gallagher clearly wants long term commitment here, or the biggest deal elsewhere. He is perfectly right to feel that and more importantly gone about things in the right way - I.e. the way be played last season when the club kept trying to sell him. A lot of players down tools or take the easy money straight away. 

You get why the club was trying to sell him though, pure profit on the books, same as Mason, same as Maatsen and I'd be surprised if it's not the same for Chalobah and Broja (if anyone wants to buy him). 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

12 minutes ago, Pizy said:

 

If the manager came in and told me “mate, you’re a great player and I like you but you’re not in my plans and I’m going a different direction,” I would be really sad and disappointed but then I’d seek out the best destination for myself straight away. Instead, he may just run his contract down and waste an entire season likely not playing at all? In his prime years?

I mean, yeah, from a financial POV it’s beneficial for him. But to waste an entire season being a bit part player who will probably only see action in the Conference League is silly. Especially if he wants to stay in the picture for the national team where his place is already tenuous. 

Has the manager told him that though? Haven’t been any reports of it anywhere. 

It is club driven 100%. Look at the last 18 months, January 2023 we accepted a £45-50m bid from Everton. Last season all the talk of Spurs, particularly in January and no new contract extension. Now conveniently Atletico are in for him for £34m after he turned down a contract extension which hasn’t been disclosed, a £50m Villa move to last month and then more recently a daft 2+1 contract extension.

I really doubt we offered him a 4 or 5 year deal before accepting that bid from Villa in June…. 

10 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

A bit different when the rest of the players are new signings and the club is only giving them 5+ year deals for accounting purposes. 

Being 24 and getting a 3 year deal is actually better for the player as they'll be a free agent at 26/27 (which in most cases is the start of your career peak, especially for midfielders).   He's not a top tier talent like Reece or Colwill.  

What are you on about? It is not very often you see anyone under the age of 25 signings a 2 year with option of another season deal. Because 1) clubs aren’t as ridiculous to make such offers to anyone below 30 they actually want and 2) players sign longer deals because they believe they are part of the short, medium and long term at football clubs.

In fact when has anybody seen something like that barring Mbappe’s weird deal, who was clearly wanting the move to Madrid and PSG wouldn’t play ball? It is a daft offer - no player in the right mind is accepting that, particularly if they want to remain at the club in the long term.

Forget Reece and Levi and their 6 and 7 year extensions, if the extension offer was say 4 years 100% he’d have signed it by now.

It is a play by the club either to recoup a larger fee if he wont leave this summer or to try and force him out. 

[Pizy 18,926]

4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Has the manager told him that though? Haven’t been any reports of it anywhere. 

It is club driven 100%. Look at the last 18 months, January 2023 we accepted a £45-50m bid from Everton. Last season all the talk of Spurs, particularly in January and no new contract extension. Now conveniently Atletico are in for him for £34m after he turned down a contract extension which hasn’t been disclosed, a £50m Villa move to last month and then more recently a daft 2+1 contract extension.

I really doubt we offered him a 4 or 5 year deal before accepting that bid from Villa in June…. 

What are you on about? It is not very often you see anyone under the age of 25 signings a 2 year with option of another season deal. Because 1) clubs aren’t as ridiculous to make such offers to anyone below 30 they actually want and 2) players sign longer deals because they believe they are part of the short, medium and long term at football clubs.

In fact when has anybody seen something like that barring Mbappe’s weird deal, who was clearly wanting the move to Madrid and PSG wouldn’t play ball? It is a daft offer - no player in the right mind is accepting that, particularly if they want to remain at the club in the long term.

Forget Reece and Levi and their 6 and 7 year extensions, if the extension offer was say 4 years 100% he’d have signed it by now.

It is a play by the club either to recoup a larger fee if he wont leave this summer or to try and force him out. 

I mean, it’s just kind of obvious looking at the personnel we have playing in these games so far that there isn’t really a place for him. With Lavia back and looking great so far and KDH knowing Maresca’s system that’s 2 players right there that he didn’t have to compete with for a place last season. 

If Caicedo, Enzo, Lavia, and KDH are all fit PLUS the fact that we’ll be playing with an inverted fullback in midfield as well, I don’t see how he gets on the pitch. And then there’s Carney, too. And media reports about wanting to use Palmer more centrally. And Maresca himself last night saying that Nkunku can play “in the pocket.” 

Every possible position Conor can play in is well stocked currently.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,076]

Reports that we've accepted a bid from Villa for Lukaku. Don't believe for one minute that he will want to go there, so I wonder if Villa are just helping us out with our Napoli negotiations?

[bluesman2610 1,417]

39 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Reports that we've accepted a bid from Villa for Lukaku. Don't believe for one minute that he will want to go there, so I wonder if Villa are just helping us out with our Napoli negotiations?

Even if we did he is not going to play for Villa. The english media bully him and he can't handle it that is why he would rather go play in Italy for every team in Serie A.

 

Also I don't know if anyone saw this but Leny Yoro out 3 months with a foot injury. 

Edited August 1, 2024 by bluesman2610