DDA 9,937 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 25 minutes ago, Pizy said: I really, really wanted him a couple of years ago but I’m very conflicted as to whether he’s a good fit for us now. A classic, “big man” #9 in a team that’s likely to play really patient, slower football? Will he be starved of service for huge periods of time and therefor be ineffective? I suppose the best outcome in that scenario is replicating what City have with Haaland where he can go entire halves without getting more than a few touches but is still super clinical and bags loads of goals. If we’re now willing to splurge a huge fee on a striker I can’t help but feel Alvarez would be a better system fit. Alverez would be a good fit but theres a slight doubt in my mind whether he has the presence to lead the attack for a supposedly top 4 club. A little like Jesus. 4 minutes ago, LAM09 said: The only stumbling block would be our board's rumoured reluctance to budge on the wage structure. As I've said in the past, when the right player becomes available, you make an exception. I don't want to hear nonsense about offering him £250kpw+ would rock the boat; he is a CF we've been crying out for far too long. I get why the owners want to bring the wage bill down but ultimately, if you dont pay the wages, you wont get the best players. Its that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,050 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 1 minute ago, DDA said: I get why the owners want to bring the wage bill down but ultimately, if you dont pay the wages, you wont get the best players. Its that simple. Exactly. We'd be getting Lukaku off the wage bill for good in the process, so that should be taken into consideration as well. 27 minutes ago, Pizy said: I really, really wanted him a couple of years ago but I’m very conflicted as to whether he’s a good fit for us now. A classic, “big man” #9 in a team that’s likely to play really patient, slower football? Will he be starved of service for huge periods of time and therefor be ineffective? I suppose the best outcome in that scenario is replicating what City have with Haaland where he can go entire halves without getting more than a few touches but is still super clinical and bags loads of goals. If we’re now willing to splurge a huge fee on a striker I can’t help but feel Alvarez would be a better system fit. Just have a look at the offers we've made for Omorodion. Transfer fees clearly aren't that much of a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 If they’d accept something like £60m + Lukaku then of course you do it. I’m skeptical Osimhen is the guy for us but that’s a deal you do every day of the week. But if Napoli insist on something much more like £80m + Lukaku I don’t think the club goes that high and I’d say rightly so. We’ve been burned by on so many striker signings that I’m incredibly weary every time now. Just can’t help but be pessimistic. mkh and Mhsc 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,050 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Pizy said: If they’d accept something like £60m + Lukaku then of course you do it. I’m skeptical Osimhen is the guy for us but that’s a deal you do every day of the week. But if Napoli insist on something much more like £80m + Lukaku I don’t think the club goes that high and I’d say rightly so. We’ve been burned by on so many striker signings that I’m incredibly weary every time now. Just can’t help but be pessimistic. Napoli have supposedly lowered their asking price to around £85m~. Conte's love for Lukaku is for all to see, so this deal should have been done already. It just makes too much sense for all parties concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 13 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Napoli have supposedly lowered their asking price to around £85m~. Conte's love for Lukaku is for all to see, so this deal should have been done already. It just makes too much sense for all parties concerned. If we break this new wage structure that we’ve just put in place for Osimhen it kinda opens the floodgates for any of our current players seeking new terms. If Palmer has another amazing season and then stays to the club “I want £200k per week or I’m going to agitate for a move,” will the club be prepared to break the wage structure again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEVINAA 129 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 (edited) https://www.transfermarkt.com/mike-penders/profil/spieler/834397 Date of birth/Age: Jul 31, 2005 (18) Citizenship: Belgium Height: 2,00 m Edited July 29, 2024 by KEVINAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,318 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 New Tibo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,275 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 19 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: New Tibo? Did anyone order a new snake? robsblubot, bigbluewillie and Hamilton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 So that Slonina buy looking more and more pointless than it already did, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 581 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 Slonina was still signed by Cech and Scott McLachlan at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 i am fine withe either alvarez or osimhen, but if i had to chose i would pick alvarez. Hamilton and robsblubot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 4 minutes ago, whats happening said: i am fine withe either alvarez or osimhen, but if i had to chose i would pick alvarez. Agreed. He's by far the better fit for Maresca's system; Alvarez is even already adapted to that system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,050 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 3 hours ago, Pizy said: If we break this new wage structure that we’ve just put in place for Osimhen it kinda opens the floodgates for any of our current players seeking new terms. If Palmer has another amazing season and then stays to the club “I want £200k per week or I’m going to agitate for a move,” will the club be prepared to break the wage structure again? We presently have Sterling and Lukaku, who make far more than the majority of our group. Are the rest of the team making a fuss? In respect to Palmer, it should be a flat out, yes. You either reward players (within reason) for their own on-field performances or risk becoming the Arsenal of the past, who frequently lost important players. Laylabelle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pizy 18,897 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 6 minutes ago, LAM09 said: We presently have Sterling and Lukaku, who make far more than the majority of our group. Are the rest of the team making a fuss? In respect to Palmer, it should be a flat out, yes. You either reward players (within reason) for their own on-field performances or risk becoming the Arsenal of the past, who frequently lost important players. I think the new wage structure was recently put in place because of players like Sterling and Koulibaly. These owners don’t want to get burned again by giving players that turn out to be huge disappointments £300k a week. Players like Enzo, Caicedo, etc were brought in and put on “reasonable” (by todays standard) wages when traditionally these mega transfer fee players would be only more than double what we have them on. If we suddenly hand Osimhen £250k per week I can imagine some of the others being annoyed. Don’t get me wrong, I’d still pay what it takes for the right player. But it’s not without risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,050 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 6 minutes ago, Pizy said: I think the new wage structure was recently put in place because of players like Sterling and Koulibaly. These owners don’t want to get burned again by giving players that turn out to be huge disappointments £300k a week. Players like Enzo, Caicedo, etc were brought in and put on “reasonable” (by todays standard) wages when traditionally these mega transfer fee players would be only more than double what we have them on. If we suddenly hand Osimhen £250k per week I can imagine some of the others being annoyed. Don’t get me wrong, I’d still pay what it takes for the right player. But it’s not without risk. The difference & more were paid in their inflated transfer fees. Either you overpay where fees are concerned or give out bumper contracts (free agent market is huge). There is no way this approach can be sustained. There will eventually be something that gives. All I can hope for is that it doesn't result in players leaving, as I stated above. Everything is a risk. However, some risks are worth taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,437 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 Are we even linked to Alvarez, if so he shits all over Oshimhen that's for sure. Honestly the only reason I'd like that bang average Oshimhen is to avoid getting complete turds like Samu otherwise he is waste of money as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,437 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 26 minutes ago, Hamilton said: I'd take Moukoko over Oshimhen and Samu any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,437 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 3 hours ago, KEVINAA said: https://www.transfermarkt.com/mike-penders/profil/spieler/834397 Date of birth/Age: Jul 31, 2005 (18) Citizenship: Belgium Height: 2,00 m Are we collecting goalkeepers? What happened with Slonina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 581 Posted July 29, 2024 Share Posted July 29, 2024 🚨 #Chelsea have submitted an opening proposal worth €15m (£12.7m), including performance-related add-ons for Gremio attacking midfielder Gabriel Mec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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