Chelsea Transfers

[Gundalf 806]

5 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Evidently so. Which is a mistake, imo. Yes, I expect him to improve but do I think he’ll become a lethal goal scorer at the Haaland/Kane/Salah/Mané level at any point? Hell no! 

Jackson is the perfect #2 striker for a club of our stature. Not the main guy.

Ig its because of the dead striker market atm. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

Just now, Gundalf said:

Ig its because of the dead striker market atm. 

Guirassy, Dovbyk, Openda, Zirkzee

All of which are not only significantly better, some are actually cheaper. 

[Gundalf 806]

3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Guirassy, Dovbyk, Openda, Zirkzee

All of which are not only significantly better, some are actually cheaper. 

Guirassy wants to stay in Germany, 90% at BVB, Dovbyk is just another gamble, didnt like him at all yesterday, Zirkzee just another young very inconsistent striker and Openda? Not really a number 9, too short. 

[Pizy 18,928]

8 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Ig its because of the dead striker market atm. 

The Guirassy link made perfect sense to me. Cheap release clause, late 20’s so experienced but not “old,” can slot right into the team and allows Nico Jackson to still get plenty of minutes.

But if we’re after a young striker then why not go absolutely all out on Alvarez? I’d rather spend £70m on him than £40m on Duran or this kid we’re now linked with.

[Gundalf 806]

6 minutes ago, Pizy said:

But if we’re after a young striker then why not go absolutely all out on Alvarez? I’d rather spend £70m on him that £40m on Duran or this kid we’re now linked with.

Agreed, but Im not so sure if he even wants to go. After some initial reports it has gone very quiet. Could have been some agent pr. On the other hand: do we want to spend big big money on someone who hasnt scored more than 11 goals per season in his career? Jackson outperformed him last season, and even tho Alvaraez didnt play as a number 9 all the time, even when he did, he wasnt better than Jackson. 

Edited June 18, 2024 by Gundalf

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

Has Jackson shown enough to be a match winner? He scored a few goals but none that were game winners. We can obviously point to the League cup final and FA Cup semi final and say these are the consequences of  relying on him far too heavily. 

We are putting an awful lot of faith in him going into next season unless we are going to completely rely on Nkunku and Palmer?

Edited June 18, 2024 by MoroccanBlue

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

 

[LAM09 7,056]

54 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Evidently so. Which is a mistake, imo. Yes, I expect him to improve but do I think he’ll become a lethal goal scorer at the Haaland/Kane/Salah/Mané level at any point? Hell no! 

Jackson is the perfect #2 striker for a club of our stature. Not the main guy.

I would go as far as to say that Jackson isn't a CF at all. He'd be more successful out wide, where his conversion rate would be less of a concern if a consistent goalscorer led the line instead.

[Pizy 18,928]

1 minute ago, LAM09 said:

I would go as far as to say that Jackson isn't a CF at all. He'd be more successful out wide, where his conversion rate would be less of a concern if a consistent goalscorer led the line instead.

That or playing as a second striker alongside a classic #9. If we had prime Giroud still at the club I think Nico would be brilliant playing with him.

[whats happening 1,620]

can we get an adult for once

[Mhsc 1,097]

So much disrespect on NJ as if top strikers always bang in their first season in PL

Don't understand it myself. I've been humbled so many times by players that looked like they had something but weren't quite delivering, that I wrote off, that then turned out to be world class. Even Suarez had a frustrating start at Liverpool, being wasteful in front of goal, and people had basically written him off when he established himself as one of the most dangerous players in the world.

[Pizy 18,928]

4 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

So much disrespect on NJ as if top strikers always bang in their first season in PL

Don't understand it myself. I've been humbled so many times by players that looked like they had something but weren't quite delivering, that I wrote off, that then turned out to be world class. Even Suarez had a frustrating start at Liverpool, being wasteful in front of goal, and people had basically written him off when he established himself as one of the most dangerous players in the world.

He’s a very nice player who I’m happy to have. He’s just not (yet) a TOP player.

[Gundalf 806]

17 minutes ago, whats happening said:

can we get an adult for once

Lets get Lukaku back. 

[LAM09 7,056]

40 minutes ago, Pizy said:

That or playing as a second striker alongside a classic #9. If we had prime Giroud still at the club I think Nico would be brilliant playing with him.

We're vulnerable enough with one CF, so I very much doubt this team could get away with two CF's.  

36 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

So much disrespect on NJ as if top strikers always bang in their first season in PL

Don't understand it myself. I've been humbled so many times by players that looked like they had something but weren't quite delivering, that I wrote off, that then turned out to be world class. Even Suarez had a frustrating start at Liverpool, being wasteful in front of goal, and people had basically written him off when he established himself as one of the most dangerous players in the world.

My opinion of him isn't just based on his output or lack of it when needed. I've previously stated that his attitude is an issue (10 yellow cards for a CF).

Edited June 18, 2024 by LAM09

[Strike 7,492]

1 hour ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

At this point, I'd keep Lukaku over another young striker. 

[Vesper 30,196]

3 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Who?

 

Edited June 18, 2024 by Vesper

[TheHulk 2,467]

Guess this ain't happening, trying for days now to find agreement with him..

[Vesper 30,196]

11 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

Guess this ain't happening, trying for days now to find agreement with him..

better teams want him

he is stalling waiting for offers

[Pizy 18,928]

Wonder if Olise is stalling and waiting for City in particular. City have been super quiet so far so wouldn’t be surprised if they’re just secretly waiting until they see what sort of terms Palace will accept before jumping in late. Don’t think we’d have much chance if they tell him they want him.

Thankfully, unlike transfer sagas we’ve been through before for high profile players, I’m not at all invested in the Olise ordeal. If we get him, great. If we don’t I won’t be that bothered so long as we use the money we would’ve used on him on another attacker of a similar quality.

[Thor 2,716]

2 hours ago, Pizy said:

He’s a very nice player who I’m happy to have. He’s just not (yet) a TOP player.

His season was very promising for his age. Literally watched highlights yesterday of our goals and didn't realise how many times he turned a player or had a significant carry before passing it off to someone who then assisted. 

He really doesn't get the shine for all the good stuff he did. Could he finish better? Yes. Needs to be more decisive. But he keeps putting himself in good positions. Its a numbers game. I'm far more happy with a striker that keeps creating chances for himself and finishes 50% than the one that makes 1 a game and finishes 90%.