Vesper 31,104 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Pizy said: Man, I’m not even paying attention to the Lavia stuff at this moment. I just want confirmation that we’ve bid again for Caicedo and have been given the green light by Brighton. Lavia afterwards would be the super bonus on top. Get Caicedo sorted first! and Kudus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 hours ago, robsblubot said: VVD is a working system away from returning to some sort of form a good partner away I would not want any of these (pretty overrated IMHO, barring some out-of-the-blue major breakthrough in form) on our squad (other than maybe the ageing but good for one more season Matip as a one year stop-gap backup IF we sell Trevoh and (as is likely) buy no replacement this window) robsblubot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Tyler is superb when he plays for USA national team (but Pulisic also is). Could it be though that we are underestimating him because of the overall predicament of Leeds ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrenshah 186 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, cosmicway said: Tyler is superb when he plays for USA national team (but Pulisic also is). Could it be though that we are underestimating him because of the overall predicament of Leeds ? Have a feeling we will still get adsms and caicedo Adams deal is all signed but we just putting up a smokescreen to scare liverpool regarding lavia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,901 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Today is the day! shrenshah and Hamilton 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, Nero said: Today is the day! We all hope! Im soooo ready for the Pornstein dagger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Apparently Adams might have failed his medical with us, that explains a lot Vesper and Mhsc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Out! 5.0 update 8 or 9 to go IF we buy another CF I am all down to sell Broja Faustino Anjorin is off the list as he is staying (loan) Saudis are deffo in the mix to sell to for some of these Edouard Mendy Kalidou Koulibaly Marc Cucurella César Azpilicueta Conor Gallagher Ruben Loftus-Cheek Mason Mount Christian Pulisic Hakim Ziyech Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang Raheem Sterling Trevoh Chalobah — DF Wales WAL Ethan Ampadu (at Spezia until 30 June 2023) — DF Ghana GHA Baba Rahman (at Reading until 30 June 2023) — DF France FRA Malang Sarr (at Monaco until 30 June 2023) — DF England ENG Dujon Sterling (at Stoke City until 30 June 2023) — MF France FRA Tiémoué Bakayoko (at AC Milan until 30 June 2023) — FW England ENG Callum Hudson-Odoi (at Bayer Leverkusen until 30 June 2023) — FW Belgium BEL Romelu Lukaku (at Inter Milan until 30 June 2023) plus now also gone Kai Kova Kante Denis Zakaria João Félix mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 541 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 21 hours ago, shrenshah said: He wont, get over it guys...not the end of the world Club was doing the right thing offering 80-90mn odd on the higher side, he aint worth anything near 110mn (Its a massive overpay). He was the best option available but thats about it. I wouldnt buy another makeshift DM right now, we should wait for the right oppurtunity/player (Someone like a Tchouameni might just become available later). Also we need to stop transactions with Brighton with immediate effect, they got their way cause of silly Liverpool. I knew a little something... He will 100% play for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,764 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 The deal has been agreed- we are sending documents this morning. Things go to plan Sir Romano should be saying the three words later today 👍🏻 Fernando, Thor and Costa19 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,819 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Special Juan said: The deal has been agreed- we are sending documents this morning. Things go to plan Sir Romano should be saying the three words later today 👍🏻 Ca cei do - here we go - ca cei do Hamilton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 A relatively simple explanation because many have asked: Chelsea need something like £450m profit (could even be more) from 22/23 and 23/24 player trading to balance the allowable trading loss over the last 3 years (conservatively). I reckon they did around £100m player trading profit in 22/23 with around another £75m so far from Mount, Pulisic, PEA, Livermento sell on profit and Ampadu. Amortisation rises when you buy and does not fall if you sell a youth player for a pure profit. So Caciedo, Lavia and Olise will add not only, say, £35m of amortisation in 23/24 but also, say, £25m of wages. That’s more than the likely trading profit of selling Gallagher and Hudson Odoi although assume maybe £12.5m wage saving. But they needed that for the existing deficit before Caciedo etc. This leaves Chalabah and Broja as profit opportunities. Most of the rest are at best neutral in terms of profits - Ziyech could lose quite a lot, Kepa neutral, Cucurella has a book value so high he can’t be sold for profit, Sterling the same. So they are many £10s of millions short of break even under PL P&S in 23/24 even if they managed to just about comply in 22/23 (which I’m skeptical about too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,237 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: A relatively simple explanation because many have asked: Chelsea need something like £450m profit (could even be more) from 22/23 and 23/24 player trading to balance the allowable trading loss over the last 3 years (conservatively). I reckon they did around £100m player trading profit in 22/23 with around another £75m so far from Mount, Pulisic, PEA, Livermento sell on profit and Ampadu. Amortisation rises when you buy and does not fall if you sell a youth player for a pure profit. So Caciedo, Lavia and Olise will add not only, say, £35m of amortisation in 23/24 but also, say, £25m of wages. That’s more than the likely trading profit of selling Gallagher and Hudson Odoi although assume maybe £12.5m wage saving. But they needed that for the existing deficit before Caciedo etc. This leaves Chalabah and Broja as profit opportunities. Most of the rest are at best neutral in terms of profits - Ziyech could lose quite a lot, Kepa neutral, Cucurella has a book value so high he can’t be sold for profit, Sterling the same. So they are many £10s of millions short of break even under PL P&S in 23/24 even if they managed to just about comply in 22/23 (which I’m skeptical about too). So what are you saying?? We are fucked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, DDA said: So what are you saying?? We are fucked? Haha... Maybe Bohely & Co doing all those deals because they sure Chelsea will get only fines and not punishments like transfer bans or bans from europe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzoforever 10 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: A relatively simple explanation because many have asked: Chelsea need something like £450m profit (could even be more) from 22/23 and 23/24 player trading to balance the allowable trading loss over the last 3 years (conservatively). I reckon they did around £100m player trading profit in 22/23 with around another £75m so far from Mount, Pulisic, PEA, Livermento sell on profit and Ampadu. Amortisation rises when you buy and does not fall if you sell a youth player for a pure profit. So Caciedo, Lavia and Olise will add not only, say, £35m of amortisation in 23/24 but also, say, £25m of wages. That’s more than the likely trading profit of selling Gallagher and Hudson Odoi although assume maybe £12.5m wage saving. But they needed that for the existing deficit before Caciedo etc. This leaves Chalabah and Broja as profit opportunities. Most of the rest are at best neutral in terms of profits - Ziyech could lose quite a lot, Kepa neutral, Cucurella has a book value so high he can’t be sold for profit, Sterling the same. So they are many £10s of millions short of break even under PL P&S in 23/24 even if they managed to just about comply in 22/23 (which I’m skeptical about too). Where did the 450m figure come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Special Juan said: The deal has been agreed- we are sending documents this morning. Things go to plan Sir Romano should be saying the three words later today 👍🏻 Any news on lavia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, enzoforever said: Where did the 450m figure come from? You can ask him 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Just now, YorkshireBlue said: Any news on lavia? We should be hearing something any minute now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Some reports yesterday that Lavia was on his way to do the medical and if thats true we should absolutly get some news soon. Crazy if Papa B&E took it personal and went full super sayian mode and sign both Lavia and Caicedo Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: You can ask him 😁 He writes in the comments he’s sure our wages have barely improved and we are all dreaming if we think the players who are joining are agreeing much lower wages than those leaving. Guess he has an agenda. Am curious to see something written by someone with actual assumptions and numbers in table form included, this guy is just making bold statements with out showing his working. Fernando, Norfolkblue1961 and NikkiCFC 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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