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49 minutes ago, bluesman2610 said:

I don’t understand the boards fixation with Caicedo , why not put £55M into someone like Thuram and still have a good portion of money to get another midfielder in.

 

44 minutes ago, Artandur said:

If Poch really wants Caicedo i appreciate the club giving it their all, but not bowing to Brighton's ridic demands. Whats kind of concerning to me is the apparent lack of alternative/additional midfield targets

K. Thuram is quite similar to Kovacic imo but with a lot better defensive attributes, better physicality, just a good option all around but v different profile to Caicedo

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1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Thuram more of a box to box

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This makes them look quite similar tho. Caicedo tackles more, Thuram apparently is the better interceptor 

49 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

 

K. Thuram is quite similar to Kovacic imo but with a lot better defensive attributes, better physicality, just a good option all around but v different profile to Caicedo

Isn’t that the point of Caicedo? He would be a b2b as well well who is mostly focused on winning the ball deep in midfield or high up the pitch as well as progressing it but surely no DM. 
can easily see both, Caicedo or Thuram working in a double pivot with Enzo. 
really hope we start to look at other targets if Brighton continue with their ludicrous demands 

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3 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

This makes them look quite similar tho. Caicedo tackles more, Thuram apparently is the better interceptor 

Isn’t that the point of Caicedo? He would be a b2b as well well who is mostly focused on winning the ball deep in midfield or high up the pitch as well as progressing it but surely no DM. 
can easily see both, Caicedo or Thuram working in a double pivot with Enzo. 
really hope we start to look at other targets if Brighton continue with their ludicrous demands 

Thuram is far more adventurous in ball progression from what I've seen. The Kovacic shouts are spot on, and I would even say Thuram takes it up a level. 

Caicedo probably a more disciplined option for that pivot. 

 

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Caicedo’s comments don’t really help our cause, tbh. Probably just entrenches Brighton’s stance of £100m. Basically the same situation as Arse went through in January. He publicly said he wanted to go there but they wouldn’t meet Brighton’s valuation so they dug their heels in and he stayed.

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1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

This makes them look quite similar tho. Caicedo tackles more, Thuram apparently is the better interceptor 

Isn’t that the point of Caicedo? He would be a b2b as well well who is mostly focused on winning the ball deep in midfield or high up the pitch as well as progressing it but surely no DM. 
can easily see both, Caicedo or Thuram working in a double pivot with Enzo. 
really hope we start to look at other targets if Brighton continue with their ludicrous demands 

As well a Thuram would add additional height in the midfield and be another body attacking corners and free kicks at his price we should be all over that and not give Liverpool free run at him

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4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Gallagher would arguably be Poch's biggest assignment. With Mudryk, Jackson, Broja, and Madueke, the raw talent is there. With Gallagher, he'd have to absolutely fine tune every element of his game. 

At best Gallagher could be our Park ji Sung. 

No chance.

Park was one of Fergusons most trusted players in big games where it was tight or they had to roll their sleeves up or man mark specific players - wouldn’t want to give such responsibilities to Gallagher. No disrespect to him but he can’t be trusted to do that because tactically and technically he isn’t at the level. He is a headless chicken at the best of times - Park was pretty technically astute probably more so than he will ever be credited for.

Oscar was maybe the closest sort of player we had to that role IMO, him v Pirlo in his first season all the proof of that. But he was meant to be a 10, a creative attacking player not that sort of player which he turned out to be. 
 

On the raw talent side of things, we need a bit more than that in this squad now to even the blend out. Hopefully get some movement on some 23-27 year old players soon. I think that having younger and raw players is fine to a certain degree but when things get tough, like last season, these sort of guys seem to fold more often than not. Mentally some of them haven’t experienced it before or don’t have the minerals to take it on the chin and keep believing in what their doing.

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