DDA 10,237 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, didi007 said: Why blame the players when the coaches were no good! Oh behave. Yea the coaches have been sub par but don't even start with giving these absolute dogshit players a pass. They have been disgustingly bad for too long and there are no more excuses. Enough is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didi007 69 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, DDA said: Oh behave. Yea the coaches have been sub par but don't even start with giving these absolute dogshit players a pass. They have been disgustingly bad for too long and there are no more excuses. Enough is enough. Are these not the same players under a good coach who won 3 trophies including the CL not too long ago? if they are that bad why are other top clubs after them! Calling the dogshit? no wonder they all want to leave in droves. Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 our last top4 were done very poorly and were almost at risk. We are not talking about top4s fighting for titles We also won a UCL in 2012 and had to renew the squad to win a prermierleaguein 2015. And it also coincided with a poor league campaign. To conclude, it doesn't mean that we are going to rise to the top level with those players who won the UCL, at least with some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,950 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 if we will not send any player to Brighton, we will pay 100M pounds for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,237 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 31 minutes ago, didi007 said: Are these not the same players under a good coach who won 3 trophies including the CL not too long ago? if they are that bad why are other top clubs after them! Calling the dogshit? no wonder they all want to leave in droves. I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince anybody that the majority of the current squad have been nothing short of a disgrace and there is certainly no convincing me otherwise. Many of these players are overrated.. the winning of the CL was a team effort and had nothing majorly to do with the excellence of individuals. If anything the stand out player of that campaign was Rudiger. The other trophies are in all honesty mickey mouse trophies that nobody really gives a fuck about. mkh and Laylabelle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didi007 69 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 33 minutes ago, Mário César said: if we will not send any player to Brighton, we will pay 100M pounds for him? Yes and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Vesper and Fernando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, DDA said: I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince anybody that the majority of the current squad have been nothing short of a disgrace and there is certainly no convincing me otherwise. Many of these players are overrated.. the winning of the CL was a team effort and had nothing majorly to do with the excellence of individuals. If anything the stand out player of that campaign was Rudiger. The other trophies are in all honesty mickey mouse trophies that nobody really gives a fuck about. that's my point and that's why don't bother me sell mount and havertz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheHulk said: thank god!! Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 why not thomas partey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mário César said: why not thomas partey? He’s 30, often injured, and why would we want a player Arse are trying to upgrade on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, Pizy said: He’s 30, often injured, and why would we want a player Arse are trying to upgrade on? arsenal need deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Off topic but the forum is loading pages and twits like complete trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 See all these Saudi deals? I take it we're getting a transfer fee as well as losing the dead weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, ulsterchelsea said: See all these Saudi deals? I take it we're getting a transfer fee as well as losing the dead weight? Surely we are when players like KK & Ziyech have more than 1 year left on their deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,104 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 On 17/06/2023 at 11:28, TheHulk said: Not even Vesper rates him. rates who? I rate Toney and I am not at all negative on Jackson, I had him in a list of possible CFs back in May here On 17/06/2023 at 11:31, YorkshireBlue said: No offence to vesper, but she's hardly scouting royalty, I am obviously not a pro, and especially never claimed royalty scouting status (lolol) but at least let me find out who Hulk was talking about (meaning did I actually say I did not rate some player) YorkshireBlue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Vesper said: rates who? I rate Toney and I am not at all negative on Jackson, I had him in a list of possible CFs back in May here I am obviously not a pro, and especially never claimed royalty scouting status (lolol) but at least let me find out who Hulk was talking about (meaning did I actually say I did not rate some player) Meant regarding Jackson, I didn't see you say anything about him so assumed you don't rate him high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Tomo said: This could come back to haunt me but I'm really not getting the hype over Ten Hag so far, their football has been no different to Ole's. I think they have to be a bit more progressive at times next season although there was some games with sequences where you could see bits and pieces of how EtH’s Ajax played also but would say United were a bit more rigid than Ajax who were a bit more free. I don’t think he will be able to completely instil that way of playing from Ajax to United either as I would imagine with some of the players he has at United he can tailor things to utilise certain skills. Plus Ajax always play in that style, although theres always slightly variations. Overall though, from how I looked at it, it looked like EtH focused more on resetting the attitude and mentality as well as trying to get back to that sort of ‘this is Man United’ of the past. Where as under Jose, Ole and Ragnick you got the feeling they were soft and would roll over after any little struggle. You’d expect them to go on and buy a few good players this summer and keep building. They did have some big losses though which again, difficult to shake off despite what you’d expect has to he considered a very positive season for United but they seemed to be a bit more resolute and not cave in moments where they did before. Laylabelle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: I think they have to be a bit more progressive at times next season although there was some games with sequences where you could see bits and pieces of how EtH’s Ajax played also but would say United were a bit more rigid than Ajax who were a bit more free. I don’t think he will be able to completely instil that way of playing from Ajax to United either as I would imagine with some of the players he has at United he can tailor things to utilise certain skills. Plus Ajax always play in that style, although theres always slightly variations. Overall though, from how I looked at it, it looked like EtH focused more on resetting the attitude and mentality as well as trying to get back to that sort of ‘this is Man United’ of the past. Where as under Jose, Ole and Ragnick you got the feeling they were soft and would roll over after any little struggle. You’d expect them to go on and buy a few good players this summer and keep building. They did have some big losses though which again, difficult to shake off despite what you’d expect has to he considered a very positive season for United but they seemed to be a bit more resolute and not cave in moments where they did before. He hasn't really fixed the soft mentality though. They suffered three history book tonkings and won once away against the top 12 (couldn't even beat us in what was probably our worst ever big game performance at Stamford Bridge). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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