Mário César 1,251 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Club is holding out for that, by all accounts. yes we need to sell him besides, I think we will not miss him I like him but if he wan't to renew his contract... well, I don't think that he will be brilliant for United If he would go to Liverpool I would be more concern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 580 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Sporting CP president Frederico Varandas on Manuel Ugarte: “Two clubs have paid his release clause. They both made offers for him from a career and salary perspective. He first opted for one of them before changing his mind in favour of the other.” [via @Sporting_CP] Fernando and Vesper 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Brighton ask went from £80 after add-ons to £100m and we still want to talk with them next week. That type of money could get us Lavia and a striker like Rasmus Høljund. With sales we could even bring in Onana too. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,251 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 according to the athletic, Inter will demand at least 70M€ for Onana I doubt Chelsea and United go for him if they need to spend that kind of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,251 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I don't understand why Rice want Arsenal so much A club that can't win anything from the last 20 years besides some fa cup's one single top4 in the last 6 or seven years I really can't understand why he want so much, tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Vesper said: I live in Stockholm now, and my father's fam (Swedish) has always been AIK I was born and raised in London, west London, and grew up Chels AIK is a streets below Chels, basically zero overlap and the seasons are different many on here have local, non English smaller teams they follow it isn't rocket science Second this, I don’t see it odd at all to support two teams, especially with family, my dad supports Millwall and I go to more of their games than Chelsea games for the last two years, doesn’t affect my support for Chelsea and never has done since I was a kid - Half my family support Chelsea and the other half Millwall, simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said: It's just a shame that Gvardiol - Dias - Ake/Stones is miles ahead of Colwill - Badiashile - Fofana. That Fofana transfer fee will go down in history as one of the worst PL transfers. It won't. This is thing. Not just you, but a lot of people, they are too short-sighted and don't give players time. Fofana was sloppy since Lamps took over but before that he showed some of his quality and looked very good. He is still only 22 and I think the more he plays he will grow into a top CB. His pace and ability on the ball is really good too. You mentioned Ake. Last season, you probably laughed when Ake was our first choice for CB ahead of Fofana. Same as a lot of other fans. Stones was considered a laughing stock a few seasons ago too, however with game consistency and proper coaching has proved to be a top defender. Fofana, I think will be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,251 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 city defenders are amazing because of guardiola he makes the difference Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,275 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, DH1988 said: Second this, I don’t see it odd at all to support two teams, especially with family, my dad supports Millwall and I go to more of their games than Chelsea games for the last two years, doesn’t affect my support for Chelsea and never has done since I was a kid - Half my family support Chelsea and the other half Millwall, simple. All my family and friends support Leeds, and I won't even entertain going to watch them, I am a one club man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,275 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, Stats said: It won't. This is thing. Not just you, but a lot of people, they are too short-sighted and don't give players time. Fofana was sloppy since Lamps took over but before that he showed some of his quality and looked very good. He is still only 22 and I think the more he plays he will grow into a top CB. His pace and ability on the ball is really good too. You mentioned Ake. Last season, you probably laughed when Ake was our first choice for CB ahead of Fofana. Same as a lot of other fans. Stones was considered a laughing stock a few seasons ago too, however with game consistency and proper coaching has proved to be a top defender. Fofana, I think will be the same. What makes me laugh is, fans are quick to call players like "rice" dog shit, even though he's been absolutely solid for a lower team in what is described as the toughest and best league in the word, but a player that's done well in a farmers league in Thier words, is suddenly amazing! Doesn't make sense to me. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mário César said: I don't understand why Rice want Arsenal so much A club that can't win anything from the last 20 years besides some fa cup's one single top4 in the last 6 or seven years I really can't understand why he want so much, tbh Much as we hate Arse as a club we have to admit that they’re extremely attractive to any player after that season they’ve just had. They probably played the most exciting football of any PL club over the course of the year, they play a fast, free flowing style, they’re loaded with talented young players, and have a great manager. Rice probably looks at them as a safe long term bet. A couple of key additions and they’re genuine title contenders again. Plus, with some of the shit clubs that were in the late stages of the Champions League this past season there’s no reason Arse shouldn’t be thinking about going deep there as well. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,251 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Pizy said: Much as we hate Arse as a club we have to admit that they’re extremely attractive to any player after that season they’ve just had. They probably played the most exciting football of any PL club over the course of the year, they play a fast, free flowing style, they’re loaded with talented young players, and have a great manager. Rice probably looks at them as a safe long term bet. A couple of key additions and they’re genuine title contenders again. Plus, with some of the shit clubs that were in the late stages of the Champions League this past season there’s no reason Arse shouldn’t be thinking about going deep there as well. This Arsenal season has been a "overarchievment". Under normal conditions, the squad is in no condition to repeat the same as last year, and there is always doubt whether Arteta is able to keep this up next year. The other clubs will appear stronger, and the only one that gives guarantees is City. Everything else can wobble. The truth is that Arsenal couldn't even win the europa league, let alone a league or a champions league. We're not even talking about a club that won something big recently. The last big trophy was in 2004. It's hard to honestly understand how Rice is so sure he will fight for titles next year. Liverpool came close to a quadruple and the next year they were fifth. Edited June 16, 2023 by Mário César Reddish-Blue and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YorkshireBlue 3,275 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mário César said: This Arsenal season has been a "overarchievment". Under normal conditions, the squad is in no condition to repeat the same as last year, and there is always doubt whether Arteta is able to keep this up next year. The other clubs will appear stronger, and the only one that gives guarantees is City. Everything else can wobble. The truth is that Arsenal couldn't even win the europa league, let alone a league or a champions league. We're not even talking about a club that won something big recently. The last big trophy was in 2004. It's hard to honestly understand how Rice is so sure he will fight for titles next year. Liverpool came close to a quadruple and the next year they were fifth. Just because a club has under achieved in the last few years doesn't mean that will always continue to happen, arsenal haven't got the resources we had or city, they have built slower and let youth grow, have no idea why you think arsenal can't have another strong season, if they get rice that will improve then hugely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,897 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mário César said: This Arsenal season has been a "overarchievment". Under normal conditions, the squad is in no condition to repeat the same as last year, and there is always doubt whether Arteta is able to keep this up next year. The other clubs will appear stronger, and the only one that gives guarantees is City. Everything else can wobble. The truth is that Arsenal couldn't even win the europa league, let alone a league or a champions league. We're not even talking about a club that won something big recently. The last big trophy was in 2004. It's hard to honestly understand how Rice is so sure he will fight for titles next year. Liverpool came close to a quadruple and the next year they were fifth. Comes back to them having a young squad. Most of their key players (Odegaard, Saka, Martenelli, Ramsdale, Saliba, etc) are all super young and not even close to their full potential yet. Liverpool paid the price for letting a bunch of their key players get old and didn’t invest in the midfield at all after a grueling 60 game season. Not really comparable. Of course there are no sure things, but I can’t see Arse falling away next season. All of their best players are back and with experience of challenging now. They add Rice, Havertz, and 1 or 2 others and they’ll be 2nd favorites after City easily. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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