Mário César 1,475 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheHulk said: He is any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,085 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Pizy said: All the reporters are saying we won’t get near £75m. At that price I’d sell. Fair enough. I'm going after that figure rather than the farcical numbers that have been floating around. One plus point of having Marina around is that she drove a hard bargain when other clubs started sniffing around. 27 minutes ago, robsblubot said: There are opinions and facts. Achievements are facts: Gallagher has none. Speaking of facts, your premise is incorrect: nothing is "all of the sudden" because people who rated Mount and Kai have always done do. Now an opinion: Mount is a good player, Kai is a good player, and Gallagher isn't a good player. Pitting these players together trying to force a silly opinion to others. They are not equal... never been. He specifically stated "quality players". None of the three players have fallen under that bracket for me, and I'd imagine a large number of the fan base as well. We don't need "good players" for two months in a full season; we need them for most of the season, if not all of it. Edited June 14, 2023 by LAM09 Fernando and MoroccanBlue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, robsblubot said: There are opinions and facts. Achievements are facts: Gallagher has none. Speaking of facts, your premise is incorrect: nothing is "all of the sudden" because people who rated Mount and Kai have always done do. Now an opinion: Mount is a good player, Kai is a good player, and Gallagher isn't a good player. Pitting these players together trying to force a silly opinion to others. They are not equal... never been. Shows how toxic and divided our fanbase is then when there is this much divide on who should go and where to. I have not seen anything from Havertz, Mount, Kovacic, or Gallagher to suggest either of them will drastically improve the rival club that's shown interest. And yes I will put Gallagher with those 3 as the football I have witnessed with my eyes this past 9 months from all 4 of them have soared new lows at this club. Those 4 in particular have given me legitimate Vietnam PTSD for years to come with the football I have witnessed. If Gallagher is shit, Havertz is shit wrapped in gold foil. 3 months of good form in 2021 isn't going to change my perspective on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Who is replacing them, the bigger issue the players we are keeping are not better or being linke with? Fernando, Vegetable and Vesper 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Fair enough. I'm going after that figure rather than the farcical numbers that have been floating around. One plus point of having Marina around is that she drove a hard bargain when other clubs started sniffing around. He specifically stated "quality players". None of the three players have fallen under that bracket for me, and I'd imagine a large number of the fan base as well. We don't need "good players" for two months in a full season; we need them for most of the season, if not all of it. That's nitpicking. Players go from good to great within a season, or even within the same game. Suppose the valuation these players have may be baffling if you think they belong in Aston Villa. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 barella to newcastle for 50M pounds fuck we are so done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 I wonder if there will be Saudi club coming in for Ziyech at some point. Would be a perfect match in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, Mário César said: barella to newcastle for 50M pounds fuck we are so done As if that will happen 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Gundalf said: As if that will happen 😂 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/06/14/newcastle-united-transfer-news-nicola-barella-deal-50m/ Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Shows how toxic and divided our fanbase is then when there is this much divide on who should go and where to. I have not seen anything from Havertz, Mount, Kovacic, or Gallagher to suggest either of them will drastically improve the rival club that's shown interest. And yes I will put Gallagher with those 3 as the football I have witnessed with my eyes this past 9 months from all 4 of them have soared new lows at this club. Those 4 in particular have given me legitimate Vietnam PTSD for years to come with the football I have witnessed. If Gallagher is shit, Havertz is shit wrapped in gold foil. 3 months of good form in 2021 isn't going to change my perspective on him. are you fucking kidding me? really? I will be eternally grateful to Mount and Kai for winning the most important silverware there is! I'm a fan and as such I immensely respect winners, which Kai and Mount are (fact not opinion). Now if we go into opinion, IMO you are projecting. You are projecting club and team situations onto players. The influence isn't that significant, IMO. ex. merely exchanging players won't solve the problems the team has. The same players will do way better elsewhere. I will stick to my opinion that pitting Gallagher with Mount and Kai is disingenuous to say the least. The valuation of the players corroborate that as well. Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 havertz don't want extend his contract so he can go fuck him Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mário César said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/06/14/newcastle-united-transfer-news-nicola-barella-deal-50m/ Yes sure, and United is pushing for a 40m deal for Mount as we heard earlier today. Doesnt mean its accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, Gundalf said: Yes sure, and United is pushing for a 40m deal for Mount as we heard earlier today. Doesnt mean its accepted. Nonetheless - Barella is a bit overrated if u ask me: mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Shows how toxic and divided our fanbase is then when there is this much divide on who should go and where to. I have not seen anything from Havertz, Mount, Kovacic, or Gallagher to suggest either of them will drastically improve the rival club that's shown interest. And yes I will put Gallagher with those 3 as the football I have witnessed with my eyes this past 9 months from all 4 of them have soared new lows at this club. Those 4 in particular have given me legitimate Vietnam PTSD for years to come with the football I have witnessed. If Gallagher is shit, Havertz is shit wrapped in gold foil. 3 months of good form in 2021 isn't going to change my perspective on him. Why do you think you are a better judge than Pep, Arteta, and Ten Hag? clearly these managers see these players being misused and underutilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Why do you think you are a better judge than Pep, Arteta, and Ten Hag? clearly these managers see these players being misused and underutilized. Doesnt automatically mean these are great players or that they will shine there. Just look at what midfielders Pep, Arteta and Ten Hag bought last year. Pep: Kelvin Philipps for 50 million - huge flop, waste of money Arteta: Jorginho - well yea, it went downwards after that buy Ten Hag: Eriksen, Sabitzer - not really great deals Edited June 14, 2023 by Gundalf Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,089 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) Barella close to Newcastle. £50m. What a fucking signing that will be. Wow….. we should be all over this @Gundalf Eriksen not a great deal for United? Don’t be so daft. Was a key signing, Sabizter also solid enough to cover Eriksen who picked up a big injury without being spectacular. Phillips was never going to play ahead of Rodri also - anyone who thought otherwise hasn’t got a clue about football. Verdict still out on Jorginho at Arsenal but we would of been better keeping him as an option ahead of RLC and Gallagher. Edited June 14, 2023 by OneMoSalah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,204 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Berella to Newcadtle for 50m and were out here shopping for Onanas and struggling to sell Mount. We are proper done. OneMoSalah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, robsblubot said: are you fucking kidding me? really? I will be eternally grateful to Mount and Kai for winning the most important silverware there is! I'm a fan and as such I immensely respect winners, which Kai and Mount are (fact not opinion). Now if we go into opinion, IMO you are projecting. You are projecting club and team situations onto players. The influence isn't that significant, IMO. ex. merely exchanging players won't solve the problems the team has. The same players will do way better elsewhere. I will stick to my opinion that pitting Gallagher with Mount and Kai is disingenuous to say the least. The valuation of the players corroborate that as well. Yes and I was grateful for Jorginho in also lending a hand in winning that very same European cup however I didn't lose any sleep when we sold him to Arsenal, to which he had a hand in capitulating their title run. Juan Mata had more talent in his left foot than Havertz and Mount combined and did nothing of note when he went to United. Matic as well. I am not taking 3 months of good form which was 2 YEARS AGO, and was largely down to who the manager was at the time, sway my perception when the past 18-24 months I have seen some of the worst football imaginable. Gallagher, Mount, and Havertz all having a huge hand in that. 4 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Why do you think you are a better judge than Pep, Arteta, and Ten Hag? clearly these managers see these players being misused and underutilized. Because I have seen better players go to direct rivals and didn't affect us in the slightest. Arteta fought hard for Jorginho. City didn't lose any sleep selling Jesus and Sterling. This club and fanbase is so intertwined with the notion that we will experience another KDB or Salah situation when we are selling players who have less than a fraction of the talent. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,636 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Boehly's gamble going good. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Just now, Gundalf said: Doesnt automatically mean these are great players or that they will shine there. Just look at what midfielders Pep, Arteta and Ten Hag bought this year. Pep: Kelvin Philipps for 50 million - huge flop, waste of money Arteta: Jorginho - well yea, it went downwards after that buy Ten Hag: Eriksen, Sabitzer - not really great deals Lol the stupidity of blaming Jorghinho for Arsenal not winning the title, he was on the bench for many games where they lost point. They purchased him to be Partley backup. Phillips was brought in to be the Rodri backup. Eirkson and Sabitzer were low investments; one on a freee the other on loan. Vegetable, Blue Armour and OneMoSalah 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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