Chelsea Transfers

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On 25/01/2023 at 21:52, Gundalf said:

Is he so much worse than 100m Caicedo?

and Wolves are a shithole (my favourite yank slag-off atm, lolol) team

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8 minutes ago, Vesper said:

and Wolves are a shithole (my favourite yank slag-off atm, lolol) team

Shithole? Im English and have been saying that for donkeys years lol 

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Here we go again Benfica 2.0 

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6 minutes ago, Vesper said:

and Wolves are a shithole (my favourite yank slag-off atm, lolol) team

🙂 In UK usage a shithole refers to a place, not a person or persons. That could get awkward if talking to a Yank.

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On 26/01/2023 at 09:20, Costa19 said:

Sauce mate? 

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4 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

🙂 In UK usage a shithole refers to a place, not a person or persons. That could get awkward if talking to a Yank.

well, I always just said shitter (for the loo)

 

 

[Pizy 18,344]

Looks like we could strike out on midfielders and a RB this window. 
 

 

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10 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

🙂 In UK usage a shithole refers to a place, not a person or persons. That could get awkward if talking to a Yank.

Example "fucking hell mate! you live in a reet shithole"

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Todd is taking the piss.

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On 26/01/2023 at 12:37, OneMoSalah said:

Onana now? Wtaf is going on. He is fucking shite…..

not saying we should buy him, but that is REALLY harsh on Onana, who has beast potential

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5 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Example "fucking hell mate! you live in a reet shithole"

both us Brits and the yanks use it like that

I use it to taunt MAGAt Trumpers

call their RW Rethug run US States shitholes (as Trump called black countries shitholes and the MAGAts started using it)

where would you rather live?

deep Republican-run

Mississippi / Trumpy crazed West Virginia / Arkansas etc etc (crazy poor, non educated, buybull banging, violent, racist AF)

OR

Democratic run

California / Washington State / Oregon / Massachusetts etc etc

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11683631/Arsenal-60m-bid-REJECTED-Brighton-midfielder-Moises-Caicedo.html
 
[Sami Mokbel]Moises Caicedo ready to hand in transfer request to force a move to Arsenal OR Chelsea as Gunners have £60m bid REJECTED... with Brighton holding out for at least £20m MORE

£80m 😵‍💫😵‍💫

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6 minutes ago, Costa19 said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11683631/Arsenal-60m-bid-REJECTED-Brighton-midfielder-Moises-Caicedo.html
 
[Sami Mokbel]Moises Caicedo ready to hand in transfer request to force a move to Arsenal OR Chelsea as Gunners have £60m bid REJECTED... with Brighton holding out for at least £20m MORE

£80m 😵‍💫😵‍💫

£80m is too much and £100m is insane

we should just go for Manu Kone (£35m-45m max I wager) 

[Pizy 18,344]

For £75-80m we could probably finally take Rice this coming summer who I feel is slightly superior to Caicedo. Just silly, ridiculous money for him. We should learn our lesson after giving Brighton £62m for Cucu (who I still think will be a good signing).

Saw someone elsewhere mention Bissouma when he was at Brighton which I had forgotten about. He looked pretty awesome under Potter, was highly sought after by most of the Big 6, got his big move to Spuds and has been anonymous. That should be a red flag.

If Caicedo was available for £40m I’d jump at that price. But £75m+ should get you a nailed on game changer in my mind.

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ANALYSIS | Chelsea’S PRIORITISATION OF MALO GUSTO OVER VANDERSON COULD BE A GLARING OVERSIGHT

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2023/analysis-chelseas-prioritisation-of-malo-gusto-over-vanderson-could-be-a-glaring-oversight/

For the second time this transfer window, Chelsea are turning to Ligue 1 in their search for a defender. The club have already signed AS Monaco’s Benoît Badiashile, and the early signs would suggest that transfer to be a good bit of business, especially considering the cost and experience of the French international. However, should they be returning to raid the Principality club again and sign Vanderson instead of Olympique Lyonnais’ Malo Gusto?

It is clear that Gusto is Chelsea’s priority. The France U21 international would arrive at Stamford Bridge and find himself in competition for a starting spot with Reece James. That is no easy task and with the Englishman expected to return from injury in the coming weeks, Gusto could find gametime limited, despite the reported guarantees that he has received from the club.

Gusto, unlike Vanderson, feels much more pigeonholed as a player. Possessing a unique set of abilities, Gusto is undoubtedly a right-wing-back, rather than a right-back, and his error proneness and questionable defensive positioning would leave him susceptible to being targeted by opposition defences should he play in a back four.

The upside to Gusto is his offensive output. He is an adept crosser of the ball, and a creative presence in the attacking third, on the overlap rather than the underlap. He is also an aggressive defender, who likes to win the ball high, and create chances through dangerous turnovers, although this facet of his game can come to the detriment of the collective defensive effort at times. 

Whilst talented and brimming with potential, Gusto has the feel of a one-dimensional player, which can’t be said about Vanderon. The Brazilian arrived from Grêmio just one year ago but took no time to settle into life in Ligue 1. During his first six months at the Principality club, he scored two goals and registered three assists.

However, Vanderson’s worth is not merely defined by a set of offensive statistics. His versatility is what makes him such an attractive option for any suitor. Like Gusto, Vanderson likes to play on the front foot and intercept in order to instigate attacks. However, the Brazilian is a more astute tackler, and also a better reader of the game, making him less prone to being caught out of position. 

Despite being just 5″10, Vanderson is also an aerial presence in the defensive third. This, coupled with his defensive intelligence gives him the potential to also play in a back-four, or even as a right-sided centre-back in a back-three. His versatility would potentially give him more inroads and opportunities to pierce into the starting eleven than Gusto.

There is even, arguably, the chance of him playing in midfield. Vanderson is a brilliant progressor of the ball, but he is also great at receiving the ball and has this ubiquitous availability that alludes, potentially, to a future in midfield. Should his future lie there, he would have to become a more physical player than he currently is. 

However, such a trajectory wouldn’t be surprising, and it isn’t even unprecedented. Vanderson, Monaco’s number three, could follow in the footsteps of Fabinho, Les Monégasques’ former number three, who, having played at right-back for the Principality side, made a name for himself as a midfielder at Liverpool. 

Monaco manager Philippe Clement has previously said that tempering Vanderson’s high expectations of himself is a major part of the player’s development. The Belgian coach says that the Brazilian is a player that wants to see self-improvement on a daily basis, and who, if he could, “would train 18 hours a day.” Having such a mentality is important, and even a pre-requisite for a move to Chelsea, especially when considering the calibre of competition that he would be faced with. Vanderson isn’t Chelsea’s first choice or even a choice at all, but he certainly should be. 

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On 26/01/2023 at 12:45, Pizy said:

If Enzo is off the table this window and we (quite rightly) won’t pay way over the odds for Caicedo but the club is still absolutely determined to sign a midfielder this window I think Nunes would be the most sensible of the “panic” options. For me he looks the most likely to seamlessly slot into our team.

Don't forget Manu Kone and Martín Zubimendi.

Both are Chels quality IMHO

 

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10 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Don't forget Manu Kone and Martín Zubimendi.

Both are Chels quality IMHO

 

Zubimendi looks really classy on the ball but doesn’t look very athletic to my eyes. More mobile than Jorginho, yes, but I just wonder how he’d do stepping up to the pace of this league. 

Koné looks like a gem to me, though.