Chelsea Transfers

[ZAPHOD2319 4,512]

 

[Vesper 28,968]

updated comprehensive list of CF options (Christopher Nkunku is an AMF and an SS, not a CF)

so................

Kylian Mbappé (LOLOLOLOL)

Victor Osimhen
Rafael Leão (he isn't really a CF though, but could be perhaps, and buy him for other positions anyway)

Dušan Vlahović 
Lautaro Martínez 
João Félix  (he isn't really a CF though)
Ivan Toney
Alexander Isak
Jonathan David
Benjamin Sesko
Amine Gouiri
Karim Adeyemi
Arnaut Danjuma
Hugo Ekitiké
Gonçalo Ramos
Aleksandar Mitrović
Noah Okafor
Evanilson

youth

Endrick
Mathys Tel
Momo Cho
Elye Wahi
Youssoufa Moukoko

[Strike 7,249]

On 15/10/2022 at 17:59, Vesper said:

shoot me now

Jorginho prioritising Chelsea stay

https://thehardtackle.com/reactions/jorginho-prioritising-Chelsea-stay/

Actually saw how useful he can be yesterday. Came on and helped gain a bit of control in midfield. As long as he's not first choice, he's a calming midfield influence to have

[Strike 7,249]

9 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Parody account but still I find it hilarious how Barca's season is going - the likes of Kounde were making fun of Chelsea after the opening Champions League game.

[Strike 7,249]

16 hours ago, Vesper said:

Rice turns 25 in the middle of next season. Next summer is the last one where we would get 5 full sub 30yo seasons out of Rice (and almost all trad DMFs go to shit after they are older than 30yo), so, in terms of paying way over £100m, say in the the £125m to even £150m range, it will be do or die time for me

I think few mids have edged ahead of Rice in the last year. Bellingham, FdJ are the ones I would be excited about targeting.

[ulvhedin 507]

So if Nkunku is not a typical CF and winger won't we have another problem with finding him optimal position in our squad like with Havertz and Timo?

[Artandur 939]

40 minutes ago, ulvhedin said:

So if Nkunku is not a typical CF and winger won't we have another problem with finding him optimal position in our squad like with Havertz and Timo?

He can basically play any position in our front 3. And if we switch to a back 4 again for some games, he'd slot in perfectly as the 10 or a shadow striker.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,895]

4 hours ago, Strike said:

the likes of Kounde were making fun of Chelsea after the opening Champions League game.

According to an earlier post in the forum the comment you are referring to came from a fake account and not from Kounde himself.

Edited October 17, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

[Blues Forever 1,232]

8 minutes ago, Artandur said:

He can basically play any position in our front 3. And if we switch to a back 4 again for some games, he'd slot in perfectly as the 10 or a shadow striker.

Basically a jack of all trades and master of none.

[Reddish-Blue 2,350]

45 minutes ago, ulvhedin said:

So if Nkunku is not a typical CF and winger won't we have another problem with finding him optimal position in our squad like with Havertz and Timo?

Not really, his technical play is far superior to both Timo and Havertz on the wings & would give him alot of opportunities to get involved in our attack from the wing.  Timo was limited because he needed space to thrive (hence why he's scoring goals again in the Bundesliga), his previous manager at Leipzig even mentioned that Timo is a great player in certain situations but against teams with a low block, he won't offer many solutions in our attack (think that was before a matchup between Leipzig and Atletico Madrid who were one of the harder defenses to break down in the UCL).

The problem with Havertz is that he doesn't really fit any role in our tactical system.  At Leverkusen, he was basically the #1 option playing off another striker/playing between the lines.  Not sure how Havertz has been utilized by Potter but he was effectively used either on the wing or upfront by previous managers.....and it all came with mixed results. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,350]

1 minute ago, Blues Forever said:

Basically a jack of all trades and master of none.

Then Sterling is also the same, he's been used as a LWB, LW, LM, RM, RW, ST....throughout his Liverpool, City and now Chelsea career (so far). 

[Artandur 939]

43 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Basically a jack of all trades and master of none.

I wouldn't say that, 10 or shadow striker are definitely his optimal positions. But other than Timo and Kai he also combines speed and technique, which means he should be able to work in the other offensive positions as well

Edited October 17, 2022 by Artandur

[blues.bridge 343]

what do you think about Mudryk and kvaratskhelia istead of Leao??
Then, will you be in favor  in ipotetical swap between Lukaku and Felix? ( both are not good in their current teams, and both teams would like to cut them off)?

[King Kante 1,500]

6 hours ago, Strike said:

I think few mids have edged ahead of Rice in the last year. Bellingham, FdJ are the ones I would be excited about targeting.

FDJ I am not so sure about. He seems like someone who has got there money and is now comfortable with the life that contract gave him. Personally, I would pick Rice over him.

As for Bellingham, I like him a lot but I think he needs another year in the Bundi. I fear if he comes back next year he may get over awed like a lot of the young players coming in from there; although I do appreciate he has some experience of England already. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

59 minutes ago, blues.bridge said:

Then, will you be in favor  in ipotetical swap between Lukaku and Felix? ( both are not good in their current teams, and both teams would like to cut them off)?

No thanks, Felix is just another Havertz. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

2 hours ago, Artandur said:

I wouldn't say that, 10 or shadow striker are definitely his optimal positions. But other than Timo and Kai he also combines speed and technique, which means he should be able to work in the other offensive positions as well

Nkunku is very average as a winger, he should only play as a second striker or a no. 10.

[Pizy 18,401]

13 minutes ago, Hermione said:

Will be absolutely embarassing if we end up with that Rice, one of the most mid footballers I've ever seen, people only want him because he is a Chelsea fan his ability alone is Tottenham tier at best.

Hope we get Caicedo if we fail with those 2 and stop this dumb infatuation for that guy.

I’d still love Rice here. He’s basically risk free as he’s already doing very well in the PL unlike some of the super expensive alternatives. He’s a captain, a leader, and a big personality. Also has great relationships with the other English lads in the squad.

The price is of course crazy but he’s the sensible midfield signing we could make. He’s a DM that you can plug into the XI and pair with literally any of our others without worrying.

[Vesper 28,968]

6 hours ago, Strike said:

I think few mids have edged ahead of Rice in the last year. Bellingham, FdJ are the ones I would be excited about targeting.

 Neither of those are true DMF's though, although they both could play there.

I would take Bellingham over any DMF or CMF on the planet, though Pedri would make me hesistate a bit, but not for that long.

 Not counting AMF (and no way am I counting Foden as a CMF), the truly WC MFers are (and Kante is there when healthy):

Jude Bellingham
Pedri     
Joshua Kimmich    
Declan Rice    
Aurélien Tchouameni
Federico Valverde       
Frenkie de Jong
Gavi    
Rodri
Sergej Milinković-Savić
Nicolò Barella
Eduardo Camavinga  
Leon Goretzka    
Mikel Merino   
Marco Verratti   
Mateo Kovacic 
Marcos Llorente    

 

Soon

Vitinha   

Ryan Gravenberch

Moisés Caicedo