Chelsea Transfers

[blahblahblah 73]

1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

Auba, Lukaku, Ronaldo…

Exactly. Exactly this. @Kong

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

13 minutes ago, blahblahblah said:

Dear god the fact, that no where have I said that we should bring back Lukaku. But auba is NOT the answer to our issues. Auba is not the answer to anything other than another striker added to the list of has Beens that we took a punt on. 

Pato, Falcao, higuain, etoo. None of them worked. Auba is just another one for that list, a has been who will struggle in one of the most fast paced leagues in the world. 

I did not want lukaku to be here when the season started, but if the alternative is spending 30m on a 33 year old has been, i will take Lukaku and all his problems gladly. 

You don't cover up a mistake with another mistake. We will end up having 2 useless strikers on heavy and high wages. 

Dear god, please understand the point being made instead of arguing against some hypotheticals. 

Even if you remove the 30m, auba is still not a good fit. We saw at arsenal that he has lost some pace and a lot of energy. He can't be anywhere near the levels we need for our pressing game. Kai may not score goals, but that does not mean you buy anyone off the market. Auba does NOT make us better. It's going to end up just like higuain, only worse as its a permanent transfer and we are going to be stuck with him

Every player a team buys is a risk regardless of cost. 100m lukaku waste. Donkeyoko waste baba waste, morata waste Torres waste etc etc. I dont want auba here but I want goals if u can tell me some 1 eles to get that's achievable this window I am all ears.

[blahblahblah 73]

7 minutes ago, Kong said:

Every player a team buys is a risk regardless of cost. 100m lukaku waste. Donkeyoko waste baba waste, morata waste Torres waste etc etc. I dont want auba here but I want goals if u can tell me some 1 eles to get that's achievable this window I am all ears.

If the option is auba or bust, i will gladly go with bust. I will give the opportunity to broja to show us what he is got. 

And just because we need goals, we should get any striker available? Might as well give Falcao another try, right? There is risk and then there is downright stupidity. I know exactly which category i will put the auba transfer. 

Also, please stop reiterating this "we need goals" argument. Everyone and anyone following Chelsea knows that. How is auba the solution? That is the debate here. And he is no solution. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

18 minutes ago, blahblahblah said:

If the option is auba or bust, i will gladly go with bust. I will give the opportunity to broja to show us what he is got. 

And just because we need goals, we should get any striker available? Might as well give Falcao another try, right? There is risk and then there is downright stupidity. I know exactly which category i will put the auba transfer. 

Also, please stop reiterating this "we need goals" argument. Everyone and anyone following Chelsea knows that. How is auba the solution? That is the debate here. And he is no solution. 

Auba banged goals in for fun in a poor arsenal side. He doesn't need his legs here it's a risk like any player 20m on a player is better than 70 on a risk that's not played in the epl before. It's swings and round abouts 

[ulvhedin 507]

3 minutes ago, Kong said:

Auba banged goals in for fun in a poor arsenal side. He doesn't need his legs here it's a risk like any player 20m on a player is better than 70 on a risk that's not played in the epl before. It's swings and round abouts 

For fun? In his last full season with Arsenal, he scored 10 (2 of which were penalties), in last half season he scored 4. Lukaku and Havertz both scored 8 last season, how is that so much worse than Auba?

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

10 minutes ago, ulvhedin said:

For fun? In his last full season with Arsenal, he scored 10 (2 of which were penalties), in last half season he scored 4. Lukaku and Havertz both scored 8 last season, how is that so much worse than Auba?

A stat of 92 goals in 163 games is a good stat to have. He feel out with the manager towards to end leading to troubles in his performance.

[ulvhedin 507]

1 minute ago, Kong said:

A stat of 92 goals in 163 games is a good stat to have. He feel out with the manager towards to end leading to troubles in his performance.

Which he scored while being in his prime, and he is not in his prime anymore

[Clockwork 1,794]

It should be crystal clear by now that Lukaku was a Tuchel signing, given how he wants Auba this summer. Lukaku himself said Tuchel was a huge factor leaving Inter a while ago, but that doesn’t seem to stop the narrative around here.

[Superblue 6,370]

14 minutes ago, blahblahblah said:

If the option is auba or bust, i will gladly go with bust. I will give the opportunity to broja to show us what he is got. 

And just because we need goals, we should get any striker available? Might as well give Falcao another try, right? There is risk and then there is downright stupidity. I know exactly which category i will put the auba transfer. 

Also, please stop reiterating this "we need goals" argument. Everyone and anyone following Chelsea knows that. How is auba the solution? That is the debate here. And he is no solution. 

Nobody is a guarantee otherwise such a player would be deemed priceless.

I'm not desperate for Aubameyang but I'm also not against it either. It's a short term punt that isn't going to have longer term effects on the club like a Torres or Lukaku signing had. If he chipped in with 8 - 10 goals this season and it won us a few points along the way then its proven to be a short term solution to a problem at the club. I'd liken it to when Mourinho bought Eto'o in his first season here.

Tuchel knows him well and he has a proven track record in the league so as an attempt to band aid a problem in the squad, it's probably one of the more safer options than buying a largely unproven commodity for 2-3x the price. 

We also have to get away from this notion that once you hit 30 its downhill from there. More and more players, especially those at the top level, are having longer careers and in a number of cases are actually finding themselves even improving into their 30's. I'd acknowledge that Auba struggled at the end at Arsenal but its difficult to know how much of that was to do with his relationship with Arteta. His six months at Barca have been excellent and you don't really see many Barca fans wanting him to leave which should say something.

Personally as a stop gap solution he ticks a lot of boxes and makes a lot more sense than a number of other options. My bigger issue is the price being mentioned considering Barca took him on a free 6 months ago and considering he is a short term signing. 

[blahblahblah 73]

15 minutes ago, Kong said:

Auba banged goals in for fun in a poor arsenal side. He doesn't need his legs here it's a risk like any player 20m on a player is better than 70 on a risk that's not played in the epl before. It's swings and round abouts 

Lol. For fun😂😂

Sure buddy, whatever sails your boat.

[Superblue 6,370]

1 minute ago, Clockwork said:

It should be crystal clear by now that Lukaku was a Tuchel signing, given how he wants Auba this summer. Lukaku himself said Tuchel was a huge factor leaving Inter a while ago, but that doesn’t seem to stop the narrative around here.

In what way are Lukaku and Aubameyang remotely the same type of player?

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

10 minutes ago, blahblahblah said:

Lol. For fun😂😂

Sure buddy, whatever sails your boat.

You realise auba had a better goal record for arsenal than Drogba did here right? 

[Clockwork 1,794]

1 minute ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Nobody is a guarantee otherwise such a player would be deemed priceless.

I'm not desperate for Aubameyang but I'm also not against it either. It's a short term punt that isn't going to have longer term effects on the club like a Torres or Lukaku signing had. If he chipped in with 8 - 10 goals this season and it won us a few points along the way then its proven to be a short term solution to a problem at the club. I'd liken it to when Mourinho bought Eto'o in his first season here.

Tuchel knows him well and he has a proven track record in the league so as an attempt to band aid a problem in the squad, it's probably one of the more safer options than buying a largely unproven commodity for 2-3x the price. 

We also have to get away from this notion that once you hit 30 its downhill from there. More and more players, especially those at the top level, are having longer careers and in a number of cases are actually finding themselves even improving into their 30's. I'd acknowledge that Auba struggled at the end at Arsenal but its difficult to know how much of that was to do with his relationship with Arteta. His six months at Barca have been excellent and you don't really see many Barca fans wanting him to leave which should say something.

Personally as a stop gap solution he ticks a lot of boxes and makes a lot more sense than a number of other options. My bigger issue is the price being mentioned considering Barca took him on a free 6 months ago and considering he is a short term signing. 

This argument would be valid if he came on a loan or fee, but at 30m with multi year contract?

[blahblahblah 73]

4 minutes ago, Kong said:

You realise auba had a better goal record for arsenal than Drogba did here right? 

And what is that goal record since he turned 30, care to explain and do a deep dive? 

You do know not every player has the same dip. Essien was a bloody beast at his prime and someone who could barely play once he turned 30. 

Auba's dip and his last 1.5 seasons at arsenal were shambolic. His goal scoring numbers and the eye test are indicative of that FACT. 

We might as well bring kun out of retirement and give him a contract. He ticks all the boxes

Can score goals, has a great goal scoring record in PL, will be a stop gap etc etc. And "we need goals".

 

Edited August 19, 2022 by blahblahblah

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[Superblue 6,370]

7 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

This argument would be valid if he came on a loan or fee, but at 30m with multi year contract?

Yeah as mentioned at the end its the only thing really putting me off the deal. 

Even if it was £8-12m and giving him a 2 year contract with an option for a third if things went well, it would be far big a deal in my opinion.

But even if we can knock them down a bit on their current stance for price, we'd still be looking at likely more than double the bottom end of that above price.

[Vesper 28,850]

1 hour ago, KEVINAA said:

CASADEI TO Chelsea OFFICIALLY DONE.

 

 

Chelsea have completed the signing of Cesare Casadei from Inter Milan after the Italian agreed a six-year contract with the Blues.

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/casadei-joins-Chelsea

[Clockwork 1,794]

20 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

In what way are Lukaku and Aubameyang remotely the same type of player?

goal scorer more importantly looking for an alternative to Havertz or Werner to lead the line. It is a pattern, he saw a need to address our goal scoring issue by bringing someone else, Lukaku was seen as a top striker.