Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,928 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, Clockwork said: I largely think this window has been terrible due to Tuchel being in charge, it seems we lack a consistent plan and vision. Completely disagree. He identified the likes Sterling, Koulibaly, some top class CB’s and Raphinha as priority targets. The players he’s targeting are perfect for the way we play. The identification of players hasn’t been the issue. It’s the negotiating and signing part that has been dreadful. And I don’t think you can blame the coach for that since he has probably never been so involved in these matters before. If the very first thing Boehly did when the takeover was complete was appointing a highly experienced DoF we’d surely be in a much better place right now. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Pavard was offered to Manchester United and Chelsea in the past few days. He isn't an option for United as of now, but Chelsea consider the player as an interesting option. Edited July 30, 2022 by Blues Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Based on quiet it is on the rumour mill I don't think we will sign anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Pizy said: Completely disagree. He identified the likes Sterling, Koulibaly, some top class CB’s and Raphinha as priority targets. The players he’s targeting are perfect for the way we play. The identification of players hasn’t been the issue. It’s the negotiating and signing part that has been dreadful. And I don’t think you can blame the coach for that since he has probably never been so involved in these matters before. If the very first thing Boehly did when the takeover was complete was appointing a highly experienced DoF we’d surely be in a much better place right now. It is his fault for perusing players that he couldn’t convince lol. We wasted incredible time this window chasing players that wanted either go elsewhere or stay at the their current club. Could have targeted Kounde from the get go, he would probably be a Chelsea player. Maybe prioritized Dembele. Also lack of outgoing players. look at Conte he made it clear he wouldn’t waste time on players he didn’t want. Meanwhile Tuchel is wasting time with Bats, Barkley, Sarr, and Kennedy. I am tired of the constant Tuchel aplologist on here, it’s never his fault. It’s either the players fault or the people above him, no accountability. Truth is if City won the CL final, people would look at his time here very uninspiring. Edited July 30, 2022 by Clockwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,928 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Based on quiet it is on the rumour mill I don't think we will sign anyone else. I don’t think we’ll make another “wow” signing but I do think we’ll panic buy someone decent soon. Like Pavard. All the talk over the past few months about how active we’d be and how massive the investment would be turned out well… 😒 Oh, and I just saw on Twitter that Jesus scored a hat trick. He’s been scoring for fun all preseason. For the life of me I can’t understand why we didn’t make him a priority in addition to Sterling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maravel21 36 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pizy said: I don’t think we’ll make another “wow” signing but I do think we’ll panic buy someone decent soon. Like Pavard. All the talk over the past few months about how active we’d be and how massive the investment would be turned out well… 😒 Oh, and I just saw on Twitter that Jesus scored a hat trick. He’s been scoring for fun all preseason. For the life of me I can’t understand why we didn’t make him a priority in addition to Sterling. I have a question , who said no to buy a striker ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) There's talk of a swap deal involving Werner with RB Leipzig. Who do we think it's for? Edited July 30, 2022 by Marvin123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Just now, Clockwork said: It is his fault for perusing players that he couldn’t convince lol. We wasted incredible time this window chasing players that wanted either go elsewhere or stay at the their current club. Could have targeted Kounde from the get go, he would probably be a Chelsea player. Maybe prioritized Dembele. Also lack of outgoing players. look at Conte he made it clear he wouldn’t waste time on players he didn’t want. Meanwhile Tuchel is wasting time with Bats, Barkley, Sarr, and Kennedy. I am tired of the constant Tuchel aplologist on here, it’s never his fault. It’s either the players fault or the people above him, no accountability. Truth is if City won the CL final, people would look at his time here very inspiring. He's not blameless but this is misplaced. Agree - wasting time on Sarr, Kennedy, Bats especially over Vale, Gilmour was pointless. But some perspective on the recruitment. Tuchel is not a recruiter and he was pushed into the role because of the circumstances - sale at the end of the season and no time to get a director in place. If we go fishing for quality players - Hakimi last season, Sterling, Raphinha, K2 De Ligt - we have to accept Chelsea is not the big draw it once was for most players. Among Tuchel's targets, only Kimpembe (he has coached him before) and Ake (didn't bid aggressively anyway) were the ones that were questionable. Dembele we were interested in but he signed for Barca even with a wage drop (would have been another pointless chase) and Kounde, I am not convinced is a huge mistake on Tuchel's part. Blue Armour and oldportblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Marvin123 said: There's talk of a swap deal involving Werner with RB Leipzig. Who do we think it's for? Most likely Gvardiol, also could be Nkunku and Simakan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,928 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I just don’t think overall we’ve improved or taken a step back from last season. I can see us being equal parts great at times and frustrating/infuriating just like ‘21/‘22. We’ve kinda just maintained our level. Our problem of course is that while we will have essentially treaded water the two sides who finished right on our tails last season have dramatically improved their squads. That’s not to say they’ve signed a bunch of stars I’m jealous of but they’ve both made a handful of buys that address their biggest weaknesses compared to us which was quality squad depth. I can already envision match after match against the dross of the league where we dominate possession, have a dozen attempts on goal, and end up drawing because we don’t have goal scorers. Meanwhile, our two closest rivals for 3rd/4th have Kane/Jesus/Son/CR7. In so many matches we will play poorly in we will draw. In matches Spuds/United/Arse play poorly in they’ll have star forwards to bail them out again and again. As we saw last season. It’s insane we haven’t addressed this. Laylabelle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Virtually no way Tuchel is happy with this team. Also may as well sell Gallagher because he is misused in the pivot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, Pizy said: I don’t think we’ll make another “wow” signing but I do think we’ll panic buy someone decent soon. Like Pavard. All the talk over the past few months about how active we’d be and how massive the investment would be turned out well… 😒 Oh, and I just saw on Twitter that Jesus scored a hat trick. He’s been scoring for fun all preseason. For the life of me I can’t understand why we didn’t make him a priority in addition to Sterling. Said before and I will say again, Jesus is fucking quality. He will be up there in the top scorers this season, elite player Maravel21 and Laylabelle 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 47 minutes ago, Pizy said: I don’t think we’ll make another “wow” signing but I do think we’ll panic buy someone decent soon. Like Pavard. All the talk over the past few months about how active we’d be and how massive the investment would be turned out well… 😒 Oh, and I just saw on Twitter that Jesus scored a hat trick. He’s been scoring for fun all preseason. For the life of me I can’t understand why we didn’t make him a priority in addition to Sterling. Let's see how he does when it actually matters. Arteta's system turned Aubameyang and Lacazette from the most feared partnership in this league to memes. oldportblue and Stats 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,443 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 @Tomo I know you said top 4 would not be as difficult as people make it out to be, because the chasing pack (namely Arsenal & United) are hardly any better from last season. Granted, Arsenal were poor in terms of chance creation last season, but now you have Gabriel Jesus scoring for fun in this team., in preseason at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,443 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Tomo said: Let's see how he does when it actually matters. Arteta's system turned Aubameyang and Lacazette from the most feared partnership in this league to memes. Lol. I pinged you right when you posted this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, Pizy said: I just don’t think overall we’ve improved or taken a step back from last season. I can see us being equal parts great at times and frustrating/infuriating just like ‘21/‘22. We’ve kinda just maintained our level. Our problem of course is that while we will have essentially treaded water the two sides who finished right on our tails last season have dramatically improved their squads. That’s not to say they’ve signed a bunch of stars I’m jealous of but they’ve both made a handful of buys that address their biggest weaknesses compared to us which was quality squad depth. I can already envision match after match against the dross of the league where we dominate possession, have a dozen attempts on goal, and end up drawing because we don’t have goal scorers. Meanwhile, our two closest rivals for 3rd/4th have Kane/Jesus/Son/CR7. In so many matches we will play poorly in we will draw. In matches Spuds/United/Arse play poorly in they’ll have star forwards to bail them out again and again. As we saw last season. It’s insane we haven’t addressed this. Spurs have had Kane and Son for years while we haven't had a reliable 20 plus scorer yet they haven't gazumped us. How is Jesus a safer bet for goals than Sterling? Especially with Arteta tax. Also they finished right on our coattails because we had 5 tournaments to juggle alongside a massive injury crisis and unprecedented ownership crisis while they both only had the league to focus on. Stats and oldportblue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: @Tomo I know you said top 4 would not be as difficult as people make it out to be, because the chasing pack (namely Arsenal & United) are hardly any better from last season. Granted, Arsenal were poor in terms of chance creation last season, but now you have Gabriel Jesus scoring for fun in this team., in preseason at least. Let's see what happens when it really matters. For years now we've been getting told Arsenal have sorted themselves out and will gazump us and it never happens, even with us starting to offer some helping hands in the head to heads. Blue Armour and oldportblue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,443 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Vesper said: insane we are not making a move for him when all they want is around £58.8m Yeah it's annoying that we chase a goose in Kounde, but do fuck all with regards to Skriniar. Really wondering if someone in the club just decided that he doesn't fit the style of play.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Everton are not interested in Chelsea’s Ross Barkley (The Athletic) Knew the rumor was too good to be true Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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