Chelsea Transfers

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Barcelona overpaid on Dembele (especially when you see what Manchester United got Sancho for) and Coutinho and then bought Griezmann to play him out of position. 
 

if we signed Haaland we definitely need him looking at our goal tally since Costa left and we would obviously play in the right position. 

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LOLOLOLOL

right on cue

you can set yer fucking Rolex to it!

Serie A side ‘change their stance’ on Chelsea star and want him on loan

https://astamfordbridgetoofar.com/2021/07/05/transfer-news-ac-milan-change-stance-on-Chelsea-star-hakim-ziyech/

Transfer News: AC Milan change stance regarding Chelsea playmaker Hakim Ziyech

According to a report by Italian publication, Corriere dello Sport via SempreMilan (h/t Football.london), AC Milan now want to sign Chelsea star Hakim Ziyech on loan instead of a permanent transfer.

The Moroccan wide-man joined the club just last summer in a move from Eredivisie giants, Ajax. But life in English football did not get off to a roaring start for him.

Multiple fitness issues saw him sidelined for a number of games under Frank Lampard. And ever since Thomas Tuchel took over the helm earlier this year, Ziyech’s role is reduced largely to being a squad player in the league. (h/t Transfermarkt)

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3 hours ago, Vesper said:

Very few players on Barca interest me 

M. ter Stegen

Ronald Araújo

Sergiño Dest

Emerson Royal

Frenkie de Jong

Ilaix Moriba

Pedri 

It is crazy how far they have fallen, and of the only 3 truly BIG stars on there, one, Pedri, is a 18yo.

 

 

Yeah I couldn't think of many players who they have that would be able to walk into our team currently which as you said speaks volumes for where they are currently.

I was thinking more along the lines of if there was someone we could maybe take on loan for a season if we needed to 'make do' because key targets weren't available. For example would a Pjanic or Sergi Roberto be worth taking for a season whilst Gilmour is out on loan to help fill the gaps?

1 hour ago, Jas said:

Would say Pjanic. I wanted or was hoping the club would sign him when he was at Lyon but that obviously didn't happen and I think the ship has sailed now. 

I felt the same, he looked superb in his younger days at Lyon.

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Aston Villa 'fancy' completing Chelsea transfer

Latest Aston Villa transfer news from BirminghamLive brings what the latest reports in the national press have been saying about the Lions' interest in Chelsea's Valentino Livramento

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-Chelsea-transfer-news-20968964

Aston Villa have again been credited with an interest in Chelsea youngster Valentino Livramento.

Villa were first linked with a move for Livramento earlier this year with the 18 year-old out of contract with Chelsea next year.

Southampton have also been mentioned as a potential destination for Livramento while Championship promotion contenders AFC Bournemouth are the latest club to be tipped to move for the player.

The Daily Star report that 'several' established teams in Europe want to land the right-sides player who can operate as a wing-back.

Bournemouth are said to be keen to bring the youngster to Dean Court on loan.

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3 hours ago, Vesper said:

Very few players on Barca interest me 

M. ter Stegen

Ronald Araújo

Sergiño Dest

Emerson Royal

Frenkie de Jong

Ilaix Moriba

Pedri 

It is crazy how far they have fallen, and of the only 3 truly BIG stars on there, one, Pedri, is a 18yo.

 

 

Pedri and De Jong are the only ones I really rate and we don't really need Pedri with Billy/Jorgi/Kova. 

However, what is interesting with Pedri is that he will be out of contact next season and Barca are already €300m over the new La Liga wage cap. 

Personally, I don't see us getting him but I do see City putting insane money his way. He is perfect for Pep and Gundogan and KdB are both over 30. 

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

Barca are truly the worst run club in the history of football when you look at total money shit away.

If a firm in the US or UK was run like they are, the directors would likely be facing prison time for fiduciary fraud, and even if they faced no criminal charges, they would be facing massive civil lawsuits.

Example:

They have spent (just ONE player) over £70m (over €82m) on Miralem Pjanić in the last 10 months (transfer fee + add-ons + salary) and now are supposedly willing to let him walk on a free.

It is just insane.

ROFLMAO

We are crazy if we pick up his salary (around £300K PW guaranteed for the next THREE years, the last year in which he turns 34yo).

Pessi is a fool to re-up there, unless he simply doesn't care anymore and just wants the payday (which is entirely possible, he is one greedy little cunt).

Barca are properly fecked, like Leeds 2003 fecked. If anyone cares to actually look at their financial situation they're going bankrupt very quickly as unlike Leeds they cannot even really fire sale owing the the insane wages of their players and/or the low amount of years they have. Ter Stegan and De Jong are probably the only two they have in a reasonable situation (although Ter Stegan is on big, big wages for a GK.)

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

“At the moment”: Romano names Chelsea’s priority transfer target to strengthen midfield

https://astamfordbridgetoofar.com/2021/07/04/declan-rice-is-a-priority-target-for-Chelsea-claims-fabrizio-romano/

 

Declan Rice is a priority target for Chelsea claims Fabrizio Romano

Speaking on his Twitch stream (h/t Express), reputed journalist and transfer expert Fabrizio Romano has claimed that Chelsea have made West Ham United midfielder Declan Rice a priority this summer.

Rice has been on the radars of Chelsea for the longest time now. An ex-academy trainee, the England international left the Blues for West Ham in 2014 where he completed his footballing education before bursting onto the scenes in the Premier League as a teenager.

Since then, Rice has grown into one of the best defensive midfielders in the league and has established himself as a permanent fixture in the England national team as well. Indeed, the West Ham star has been brilliant in the ongoing UEFA Euro 2020, helping the Three Lions make it to the semi-finals of the competition.

 

And, Romano has claimed that Chelsea have made the former academy man their priority to strengthen the midfield this summer. Although, he does mention that the Hammers’ valuation could make things difficult. (h/t Express)

“At the moment, Chelsea’s priority in midfield is Declan Rice. If they will sign a midfielder, Declan Rice will be one of the biggest possibilities. Then, they have to find an agreement with West Ham, and it won’t be easy because West Ham are asking for a lot of money for him.”

Romano also claimed that AS Monaco’s Aurelien Tchouameni is someone that the club could look at as an alternative to Rice in case a move does not pan out.

“We have to keep an eye on Tchouameni as a possibility for many Premier League clubs, not just for Chelsea. We will see. At the moment there’s nothing imminent.”

Not sure about Rice, I really like the idea of him back as he is such a Chelsea lad but I fear his inability to break the lines with his running and passing would be a big issue for us. 

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2 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Yeah I couldn't think of many players who they have that would be able to walk into our team currently which as you said speaks volumes for where they are currently.

I was thinking more along the lines of if there was someone we could maybe take on loan for a season if we needed to 'make do' because key targets weren't available. For example would a Pjanic or Sergi Roberto be worth taking for a season whilst Gilmour is out on loan to help fill the gaps?

I felt the same, he looked superb in his younger days at Lyon.

yes, and two of those (Dest and Emerson Royal) are both RWB/RB's and not my first choices there, but certainly are decent

ter Stegen would NEVER accept a move to fight for top keeper

Ronald Araújo is speculative (nowhere near my top choice for CB)

and Ilaix Moriba, a CMF, is a youth player (turned 18  around 5 months ago, has only 18 career topflight games), albeit with huge potential

 

that leaves only

Frenkie de Jong

Pedri 

as true great players as of right now (unless you give in and tell Mendy, sorry, ter Stegen is now the man, thanks for the CL and the memories, which would be insane IMHO)

and those are probably the LAST 3 on their current roster (Messi is not on it atm) that Barca would part with

 

Ilaix Moriba would be the one I would make a move for, and Emerson Royal (IF we fail on our other RWB targets)

 

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35 minutes ago, Vesper said:

LOLOLOLOL

right on cue

you can set yer fucking Rolex to it!

Serie A side ‘change their stance’ on Chelsea star and want him on loan

https://astamfordbridgetoofar.com/2021/07/05/transfer-news-ac-milan-change-stance-on-Chelsea-star-hakim-ziyech/

Transfer News: AC Milan change stance regarding Chelsea playmaker Hakim Ziyech

According to a report by Italian publication, Corriere dello Sport via SempreMilan (h/t Football.london), AC Milan now want to sign Chelsea star Hakim Ziyech on loan instead of a permanent transfer.

The Moroccan wide-man joined the club just last summer in a move from Eredivisie giants, Ajax. But life in English football did not get off to a roaring start for him.

Multiple fitness issues saw him sidelined for a number of games under Frank Lampard. And ever since Thomas Tuchel took over the helm earlier this year, Ziyech’s role is reduced largely to being a squad player in the league. (h/t Transfermarkt)

Pretty sure Milan are looking at a number of options. They have also been linked with Coutinho, Tadic for example. 

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14 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Pedri and De Jong are the only ones I really rate and we don't really need Pedri with Billy/Jorgi/Kova. 

However, what is interesting with Pedri is that he will be out of contact next season and Barca are already €300m over the new La Liga wage cap. 

Personally, I don't see us getting him but I do see City putting insane money his way. He is perfect for Pep and Gundogan and KdB are both over 30. 

Barca are properly fecked, like Leeds 2003 fecked. If anyone cares to actually look at their financial situation they're going bankrupt very quickly as unlike Leeds they cannot even really fire sale owing the the insane wages of their players and/or the low amount of years they have. Ter Stegan and De Jong are probably the only two they have in a reasonable situation (although Ter Stegan is on big, big wages for a GK.)

Not sure about Rice, I really like the idea of him back as he is such a Chelsea lad but I fear his inability to break the lines with his running and passing would be a big issue for us. 

Citeh FOR SURE with Pedri

Pep is already drooling over him

fuck us all if they get him and Kane plus some other top notch players (you know they will spend a lorry full of cash)

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2 minutes ago, Jas said:

Pretty sure Milan are looking at a number of options. They have also been linked with Coutinho, Tadic for example. 

Tadic is a farmer league flat track bully and turns 33yo in 4 and half months

Edited July 4, 2021 by Vesper

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

Tadic is a farmer league flat track bully and turns 33yo in 4 and half months

33 ain't that old yet when it comes to Serie A.

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33 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Pedri and De Jong are the only ones I really rate and we don't really need Pedri with Billy/Jorgi/Kova. 

However, what is interesting with Pedri is that he will be out of contact next season and Barca are already €300m over the new La Liga wage cap. 

Personally, I don't see us getting him but I do see City putting insane money his way. He is perfect for Pep and Gundogan and KdB are both over 30. 

Barca are properly fecked, like Leeds 2003 fecked. If anyone cares to actually look at their financial situation they're going bankrupt very quickly as unlike Leeds they cannot even really fire sale owing the the insane wages of their players and/or the low amount of years they have. Ter Stegan and De Jong are probably the only two they have in a reasonable situation (although Ter Stegan is on big, big wages for a GK.)

If Barcelona had any sense they'd let Messi walk.

He's still an incredible player but the money they are paying him and the over-reliance on him is just pushing them deeper into this financial abyss.

They moved away from relying on their academy and started paying stupid money for players. The transfer fee's for Dembele and Coutinho in particular were nothing short of a joke. Coutinho even in his pomp at Liverpool was never more than £50m. Griezmann falls into that category too simply because he wasn't needed when Messi is at the club. Although ironically if Barca let Messi go, they should rely on Griezmann the next couple of years to anchor the attack.

I do think over the next few years more players will end up moving clubs at the end of their contracts instead of the big money moves and if Barca cleared the decks somewhat over the next season or two and rebuilt around a younger core of players then they could be in a position to make a play for the likes of Haaland, Mbappe, etc because they'll still hold massive pull for players.

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Speaking of Pedri...

 

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1 hour ago, Jas said:

33 ain't that old yet when it comes to Serie A.

only for certain positions

look at wingers for instance

Insigne (30yo) is the only decent one over 27yo (unless you count CR7 who is now listed at CF)

every LWer over 24yo

every RWer over 24yo

 

every SS

Josip Ilicic is ageing out, that leaves only 3 decent ones in the entire league, a 29yo, a 27yo, and a 26yo

 

every AMF 30yo or older

 

every RMF over 24yo

every LMF in the league

 

 

It is only at CF (in terms of offensive players) where you really get the grandpa effect (and even there is it really only the 5 oldest on the list, the rest are all 32yo or younger)

all these are 30yo or older and still banging them in or assisting on them

Zlatan Ibrahimovic 39    AC Milan 
Fabio Quagliarella   38    UC Sampdoria      
Cristiano Ronaldo    36     Juventus 
Edin Dzeko     35    AS Roma   350+ career topflight goals (over 500 total goals produced including assists) for club and country, truly overlooked great striker
Dries Mertens     34    SSC Napoli  
Alexis Sánchez    32    Inter Milan   (14 total league goals (7+7) produced in only 1100 minutes) 
Ciro Immobile     31    SS Lazio   
Duván Zapata    30    Atalanta BC    
Luis Muriel    30    Atalanta BC   

Edited July 4, 2021 by Vesper

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Citeh FOR SURE with Pedri

Pep is already drooling over him

fuck us all if they get him and Kane plus some other top notch players (you know they will spend a lorry full of cash)

If we can get Håland and sort out a more offensive CM, I am pretty confident about our chances. If you look at City, they're starting to age out. I mean, look at the ages of the side at the start of next season: 

KdB - 31 (maybe not an issue with his play style but he has never been quick and always looked a little 'chunky')

Gundogan - 31 (bad knees)

Kane - 29 (bad ankles) 

Walker - 32 (relies on speed)

Fernandinho - 38

Mahrez - 31 (relies somewhat on speed)

Then you have some of their speed merchant players pushing for 30 during that season: 

Sterling 28

Cancelo 28

For me, City are a great side but they're not far off a overhaul. One thing the do have however is probably the best group of CB's and GK's in Europe that are still young + Zinchenko (although he seems to split opinion.) 

Edited July 4, 2021 by King Kante

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19 minutes ago, King Kante said:

If we can get Håland and sort out a more offensive CM, I am pretty confident about our chances. If you look at City, they're starting to age out. I mean, look at the ages of the side at the start of next season: 

KdB - 31 

Gundogan - 31

Kane - 29

Walker - 32 

Fernandinho - 38

Mahrez - 31

Then you have some of their speed merchant players pushing for 30 during that season: 

Sterling 28

Cancelo 28

For me, City are a great side but they're not far off a overhaul. One thing the do have however is probably the best group of CB's and GK's in Europe that are still young + Zinchenko (although he seems to split opinion.) 

you are off on all of those ages (in bold is what you said)

at the start of next season (what you said) they are

KdB - 31 (just turned 30 a week ago, on June 28)

Gundogan - 31 (is 30yo, turns 31 October 24) this is the only one you are sort of close too

Kane - 29 (Kane is 27, turns 28 July 28th)

Walker - 32 (just turned 31 May 28, not 32 until after next season ends)

Fernandinho - 38 (is 36, turns 37 May 4th, 2022)

Mahrez - 31 (is 30, turns 31 February 21, 2022)

Then you have some of their speed merchant players pushing for 30 during that season: 

Sterling 28 (is 26, turns 27 Dec 8th)

Cancelo 28 (is 27, doesn't turn 28 until May 27, 2022, after the season ends)

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by Vesper

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43 minutes ago, King Kante said:

If we can get Håland and sort out a more offensive CM, I am pretty confident about our chances. If you look at City, they're starting to age out. I mean, look at the ages of the side at the start of next season: 

KdB - 31 (maybe not an issue with his play style but he has never been quick and always looked a little 'chunky')

Gundogan - 31 (bad knees)

Kane - 29 (bad ankles) 

Walker - 32 (relies on speed)

Fernandinho - 38

Mahrez - 31 (relies somewhat on speed)

Then you have some of their speed merchant players pushing for 30 during that season: 

Sterling 28

Cancelo 28

For me, City are a great side but they're not far off a overhaul. One thing the do have however is probably the best group of CB's and GK's in Europe that are still young + Zinchenko (although he seems to split opinion.) 

LOOL

where you saw the ages of the players? trolol

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IF this happens, Dusan Vlahovic is still probably still on the table, but if CR7 leaves, for sure (95% IMHO) he is gone to Juve.

 

TRANSFER NEWS - CRISTIANO RONALDO'S AGENT APPROACHES JUVENTUS OVER CONTRACT EXTENSION - REPORT

https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2020-2021/transfer-news-cristiano-ronaldo-s-agent-approaches-juventus-over-contract-extension-report_sto8405132/story.shtml

Cristiano Ronaldo has asked Juventus for a new contract, according to a report in Italy.

The Juventus star has been the subject of transfer speculation since Portugal were knocked out of Euro 2020.

 

 

Ronaldo was tipped to leave Juventus in search of a new challenge, but Gazzetta dello Sport claim the forward’s agent has moved to dispel rumours his client could be on the move. 

 

Jorge Mendes has approached Juventus this week about extending Ronaldo’s deal until 2023, which will serve as the clearest indication yet the goalscorer plans to stay in Turin.

Edited July 5, 2021 by Vesper

[King Kante 1,524]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

you are off on all of those ages (in bold is what you said)

at the start of next season (what you said) they are

KdB - 31 (just turned 30 a week ago, on June 28)

Gundogan - 31 (is 30yo, turns 31 October 24) this is the only one you are sort of close too

Kane - 29 (Kane is 27, turns 28 July 28th)

Walker - 32 (just turned 31 May 28, not 32 until after next season ends)

Fernandinho - 38 (is 36, turns 37 May 4th, 2022)

Mahrez - 31 (is 30, turns 31 February 21, 2022)

Then you have some of their speed merchant players pushing for 30 during that season: 

Sterling 28 (is 26, turns 27 Dec 8th)

Cancelo 28 (is 27, doesn't turn 28 until May 27, 2022, after the season ends)

 

Sorry, I meant the start of next season not this coming one. I count the season we're about to go into as this season as we are past 1st June.

Still, I was out on a few still.