Chelsea Transfers

[King Kante 1,643]

1 hour ago, Jas said:

I don't disagree with that notion but are we talking in the context of getting goals or what? Because you first mentioned the attacking areas and you now listed a bunch of midfielders.

In general, I think we need two physical players to play in the side. At the moment, I would say the easiest place to slot those in are at CM and CF. Personally, I think our attacking play gets stymied a lot of the time as teams know they can low block us and get physical in the middle of the park and that will get them results. 

As for CF, I kniw there is an arguement for a small 9/false 9 but I am not really a fan of that. I think it is fine when you're playing in the CL or against teams that want to play on the front foot but generally in the PL against 3/4 of the teams it isn't going to work unless you have some bruisers to do the dirty work or at least some CM's/AM's that can deal with that side (KdB for example.)

For me, getting two CM's to do that isn't really visible owing to the number of good players we have in CM, so for me it is a case of getting one in CM and one as a CF. 

Edited May 17, 2021 by King Kante

[chippy 342]

Anyone know if there's anyone from the Youth team who might be ready to step up?

 

 

 

[NikkiCFC 8,301]

2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

with someone young like Vlahovic 

I am a fan, especially if it is comparing him to Lukaku.

Same minutes in Seria A. Lukaku 23 goals in by far best team in the country and Vlahovic 21 goals in team that almost fight for relegation.

Same height but Vlahovic almost 7 years younger and much cheaper. So dont know why would anyone choose Lukaku over Vlahovic?

[NikkiCFC 8,301]

I know we lack creativity but this is clearly bullshit. 

 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

30 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

I am a fan, especially if it is comparing him to Lukaku.

Same minutes in Seria A. Lukaku 23 goals in by far best team in the country and Vlahovic 21 goals in team that almost fight for relegation.

Same height but Vlahovic almost 7 years younger and much cheaper. So dont know why would anyone choose Lukaku over Vlahovic?

they are very different players tho.With  Lukaku you know what you are getting. lukaku is way faster  than Vlahovic and is a machine on the counter attack. If you are looking for a counter attacking striker he is probably the best in the world. My only gripe with Lukaku is that he never really developed into that Drogba mould. Strikers who can dominate tight sapces witht heir body and create chances for others or score from headers whilst heavily marked. Those players win you tight matches. Lukaku never got to that level due to his lack of close control. He is less of a battering ram or siege tower but more of a war elephant most effective in open field and space to charge into. Whilst he can look spectacular in these specific situations, those rarely happen in big cup finals (which is maybe partly why he has never won a single cup).

Vlahovic is more of a hustler. I think with their height and goal records any similarities end. Vlahovic already has a better first touch and close control. He has not quite the same power but is no slouch either. I have only a few games of him and he has not been exactly clinical in those but he did create a lot of chances for himsel and for his teammates. I can definitely see him evolve into a complete modern forward if he polishes his technique further and gets even more ruthless. If he was a finishes product already, he would definitely fit us better esp vs deep defences.

Not really convinced Lukaku would be a good buy anyway. He would probably help us finish off the smaller sides but he so often has been walled by players with better game intelligence i can see him being a bust in the big games again. Also at 28 he is hardly getting any younger and will cost a ton. Vlahovic on the other hand will need serious game time to develop here and not sure we can give him that esp with TT's fondness for werner.

Serie A has produced so many one season wonders lately that a bit of caution is in order with Vlahovic i guess.

 

[DDA 9,929]

Harry Class A Kane is never coming to us. 

I don't think he would out of respect to the hatred between the 2 clubs. 

[Strike 7,478]

18 minutes ago, DDA said:

Harry Class A Kane is never coming to us. 

I don't think he would out of respect to the hatred between the 2 clubs. 

Yep, this. He's going to Manchester

[Blues Forever 1,232]

9 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Just this:

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/exclusive-arsenal-leeds-keen-asking-price-for-striker-target-set-30m

I think it would be incredibly unwise to go into next season without a recgonisable ST

Need more reliable sources than this before i believe Brentford will sell for £30m.

[Stats 7,142]

5 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

they are very different players tho.With  Lukaku you know what you are getting. lukaku is way faster  than Vlahovic and is a machine on the counter attack. If you are looking for a counter attacking striker he is probably the best in the world. My only gripe with Lukaku is that he never really developed into that Drogba mould. Strikers who can dominate tight sapces witht heir body and create chances for others or score from headers whilst heavily marked. Those players win you tight matches. Lukaku never got to that level due to his lack of close control. He is less of a battering ram or siege tower but more of a war elephant most effective in open field and space to charge into. Whilst he can look spectacular in these specific situations, those rarely happen in big cup finals (which is maybe partly why he has never won a single cup).

Vlahovic is more of a hustler. I think with their height and goal records any similarities end. Vlahovic already has a better first touch and close control. He has not quite the same power but is no slouch either. I have only a few games of him and he has not been exactly clinical in those but he did create a lot of chances for himsel and for his teammates. I can definitely see him evolve into a complete modern forward if he polishes his technique further and gets even more ruthless. If he was a finishes product already, he would definitely fit us better esp vs deep defences.

Not really convinced Lukaku would be a good buy anyway. He would probably help us finish off the smaller sides but he so often has been walled by players with better game intelligence i can see him being a bust in the big games again. Also at 28 he is hardly getting any younger and will cost a ton. Vlahovic on the other hand will need serious game time to develop here and not sure we can give him that esp with TT's fondness for werner.

Serie A has produced so many one season wonders lately that a bit of caution is in order with Vlahovic i guess.

 

Tbh, Lukaku has got into double figures for assists this season too. Think he is joint top or second in that regards. Lukaku may be older, but he would be a much more safer ber than Vlahovic. I doubt we get him anyway tbh.

[Special Juan 28,133]

Lukaku all day long, we lack physicality, we lack a fucking bulldozer and have done since Drogba. Costa had a bit of Drogba and Lukaku in him, Nasty fucker with with a ram raid mentality.

Haaland isn't happening, Kane to Manchester and Lukaku we need to get him.

[Valdo 583]

How about Belotti? Haven't heard about him in awhile. I don't follow Serie A, so I wouldn't know if he is still okish or not.

[Jase 43,479]

8 hours ago, King Kante said:

In general, I think we need two physical players to play in the side. At the moment, I would say the easiest place to slot those in are at CM and CF. Personally, I think our attacking play gets stymied a lot of the time as teams know they can low block us and get physical in the middle of the park and that will get them results. 

As for CF, I kniw there is an arguement for a small 9/false 9 but I am not really a fan of that. I think it is fine when you're playing in the CL or against teams that want to play on the front foot but generally in the PL against 3/4 of the teams it isn't going to work unless you have some bruisers to do the dirty work or at least some CM's/AM's that can deal with that side (KdB for example.)

For me, getting two CM's to do that isn't really visible owing to the number of good players we have in CM, so for me it is a case of getting one in CM and one as a CF. 

Declan Rice for the midfield area? Tomas Soucek?

The attacking area is difficult because there's no clear target for the ST. Plus, don't think having one there is going to make a huge difference all of a sudden when the others can still feel rather lightweight. 

[Jase 43,479]

25 minutes ago, Valdo said:

How about Belotti? Haven't heard about him in awhile. I don't follow Serie A, so I wouldn't know if he is still okish or not.

He's still scoring decent number of goals but not sure if it says anything that even none of the bigger clubs in Serie A have taken him from an average Torino side. 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

2 hours ago, Stats said:

Tbh, Lukaku has got into double figures for assists this season too. Think he is joint top or second in that regards. Lukaku may be older, but he would be a much more safer ber than Vlahovic. I doubt we get him anyway tbh.

That is right. As I said Lukaku is way more of a finished product. His passing generally has gone up a notch.

Even in this compilation you see like 20+ situations were he plays the killer pass that splits the defence. He usually plays the difficult vertical pass before considering anything else which is the exact opposite of what our attackers do who always spray the safe ball out wide and hope for a good cross back in that never comes. That directness could compliment us well in many situations but we would still face the same problems vs deep buses.

Vlahovic is more active all over the pitch and tries many different things that do not come off always. But doing so he causes confusion in opposition backlines, drags defenders our of positions and does more unpredictable stuff. Surely an interesting prospect if he continues his development.

I would say if we would go all in for either we would get him.

 

[chippy 342]

Lukaku scored 15 goals in his 58 games against against Arsenal, Chelsea, City, Utd, Liverpool and Spurs. 

So, we want to pay a shitload for a striker who'll score one goal in every four games against the big six?