Chelsea Transfers

[Puliiszola 519]

3 minutes ago, blu35_army said:

how come our shit deffenders has a rise value...lol. beside that,,kepa is really in tears if we gonna sell him. prefer to keep him as a second GK...

We will loan him. Can't sell him as we will need atleast 50m£ simply to break even on him for the FY 2020-21 books.

[Puliiszola 519]

7 hours ago, King Kante said:

Yeah, this is exactly the problem. At the moment, there appears to be very little movement in the market outside of the top PL teams and possibly PSG. Real, Barca, Bayern (who look to be happy with Sane), Juve etc, aren't buying and if anything are also looking to clear the decks also. I think some PL teams will come to the market due to their finances but the problem with a lot of our players is that their wages are too high for their ability level. 

At the moment, people like Barkley probably still do have a market owing to the English premium but outside of that, and possibly Emerson and Zouma who are on a reasonable wages for their ability, it is going to tough. Further, with the restrictions on loan players over 22, that further hampers us as we are restricted to 6 players out I believe. 

As for Jorgi, as you say Juve are his only destination but Sarri is on thin ice. If they go out to Lyon, I reckon it is curtains for him. Then, even if he somehow pulls off a run to the final or something, Juve are already overloaded at CM with some crazy earners themselves and they have just got Melo. 

Imo, we are in a tough spot when it comes to selling the dregs as even if we go crazily low on fees as most of the players are not getting their wages that they get here.

An example of this is Frazier. He is currently on a free after his contract at Bournemouth expires and was expecting £100k a week as there is no fee. Palace are saying £55k and that is it. 

Don't know why you think that wages are such a massive issue. For majority of the players, we are not over paying, even if we are, it won't be by more than 1m a year (20kpw). 

Take michy for example. He is earning 100kpw, while shit players like benteke are earning 120kpw. Michy is at the least as good as benteke, if not way better. 

Even if you think that michy should be earning 80kpw, for a 5 year contract, that's 5m over paid to the player, which the club can wash off the transfer fee if we are really desperate to wash our hands off him.

Even at this moment of time, other than Drinkwater and kepa, there wouldn't be a player that we won't be able to move on.

The club is not naive enough to pin it's hopes in the transfer market on moving so and so players if they were not aware and confident of actually be able to sell those players. 

[King Kante 1,643]

2 hours ago, Puliiszola said:

Don't know why you think that wages are such a massive issue. For majority of the players, we are not over paying, even if we are, it won't be by more than 1m a year (20kpw). 

Take michy for example. He is earning 100kpw, while shit players like benteke are earning 120kpw. Michy is at the least as good as benteke, if not way better. 

Even if you think that michy should be earning 80kpw, for a 5 year contract, that's 5m over paid to the player, which the club can wash off the transfer fee if we are really desperate to wash our hands off him.

Even at this moment of time, other than Drinkwater and kepa, there wouldn't be a player that we won't be able to move on.

The club is not naive enough to pin it's hopes in the transfer market on moving so and so players if they were not aware and confident of actually be able to sell those players. 

The problem is that clubs finances have been hammered by Covid. Reports say that the PL are getting £330m less from TV, then you have the reduction in gate receipts, spending at the ground, merch, CL money is likely to be hit too. Utd are saying they are on course for a £100m loss and they are the market leaders at milking advertising ££££. 

So far in this market, the only real moves have been from us with Werner (Ziyech doesn't count), City and Bayern. However, all three have reasons for this. Chelsea no transfer spending for 18 months, Bayern are perhaps the best run top club and City are financed by the UAE. After that it is a guessing game. Utd may go big on Sancho but that is starting to look less likely than 2 days ago. 

As for our dregs, I placed them into 4 categories. Batsh*t to be fair may be able to be sold, but it will require him to give up his £110k a week wage and drop to his actual level (which he doesn't seem to be keen on.) As I said in that post, this market is going to be very difficult to shift players as finances have changed with clubs looking at serious haircuts to once thought of guaranteed income. As a result, players are going to be the ones that will have to take the hit, For instance, if your a player on £100k, why would you move somewhere else for £55k? Especially when if you wait a year the market could swing back and then you could move then?

[Valdo 583]

Fabrizio about Sergio Reguilón:

Verstuurd vanaf mijn F5121 met Tapatalk

[Valdo 583]

Don't think he his own forum thread yet. Fabrizio confirmed our interest in him.

 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn F5121 met Tapatalk

 

 

[Tomo 21,751]

On 05/08/2020 at 8:25 AM, coolhead23 said:

Decent Analysis on Onana 

Had the same concern on his decision making ability and not sold on him being a ball playing goalie. Biggest issue from this video is that he parries the ball in such a way that it remains in dangerous play. However i do feel he is a solid upgrade at the cost he is available 

So to cut a long story short.

He's average as a sweeper, which could be an issue at times when we play high lines (I did laugh at how badly he mistimed a couple of them on that video).

He's okay at playing out, not Ederson but not a train wreck either.

However his main strength's lie crucially in the areas we need it the most right now, in shot stopping and command of his area, which should see a vast decrease in set piece horrors and conceding the first and sometimes only shot on target.

If that report is accurate all in all I'm sold, especially for that price. Only downside will be we will lose him for a month season after next to ACON, which makes finding a suitable back up pretty crucial.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Henderson has apparently laid his cards on the table to United and told them to play him or sell him.

 

[coolhead23 1,147]

31 minutes ago, Tomo said:

So to cut a long story short.

He's average as a sweeper, which could be an issue at times when we play high lines (I did laugh at how badly he mistimed a couple of them on that video).

He's okay at playing out, not Ederson but not a train wreck either.

However his main strength's lie crucially in the areas we need it the most right now, in shot stopping and command of his area, which should see a vast decrease in set piece horrors and conceding the first and sometimes only shot on target.

If that report is accurate all in all I'm sold, especially for that price. Only downside will be we will lose him for a month season after next to ACON, which makes finding a suitable back up pretty crucial.

Yes for the price that is quoted around he is a absolutely a steal and more importantly an upgrade ... and then it is up to the coaches to rectify those gaps. But the concern would be the decision making on 1v1 or 1v2 but his instincts & decision making on shots spotting as u pointed r much better than Kepa's

[killer1257 3,282]

Yes for the price that is quoted around he is a absolutely a steal and more importantly an upgrade ... and then it is up to the coaches to rectify those gaps. But the concern would be the decision making on 1v1 or 1v2 but his instincts & decision making on shots spotting as u pointed r much better than Kepa's

I wouldn't say that 30 mio is a steal for a guy that makes that kind of mistakes.

Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk

[coolhead23 1,147]

2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

I wouldn't say that 30 mio is a steal for a guy that makes that kind of mistakes.

Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk
 

What would say about a 75m someone who makes much more mistakes than him? 

Consider that as a baseline and today's market, 30m becomes a steal  

[jernej93 569]

There was a lot of talk about Said Benrahma and our winger depth if or when Willian leaves. What about Sarr, Fraser or Buendia?

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Puliiszola 519]

10 hours ago, King Kante said:

The problem is that clubs finances have been hammered by Covid. Reports say that the PL are getting £330m less from TV, then you have the reduction in gate receipts, spending at the ground, merch, CL money is likely to be hit too. Utd are saying they are on course for a £100m loss and they are the market leaders at milking advertising ££££. 

So far in this market, the only real moves have been from us with Werner (Ziyech doesn't count), City and Bayern. However, all three have reasons for this. Chelsea no transfer spending for 18 months, Bayern are perhaps the best run top club and City are financed by the UAE. After that it is a guessing game. Utd may go big on Sancho but that is starting to look less likely than 2 days ago. 

As for our dregs, I placed them into 4 categories. Batsh*t to be fair may be able to be sold, but it will require him to give up his £110k a week wage and drop to his actual level (which he doesn't seem to be keen on.) As I said in that post, this market is going to be very difficult to shift players as finances have changed with clubs looking at serious haircuts to once thought of guaranteed income. As a result, players are going to be the ones that will have to take the hit, For instance, if your a player on £100k, why would you move somewhere else for £55k? Especially when if you wait a year the market could swing back and then you could move then?

RM just offloaded James Rodriguez and his bloated contract to ATM for 15m euros. 200kpw and the last time he was half decent was in the 2014 world cup. Still think we will have a problem moving on players who are earning 10/20kpw more than what they should be?

United are going to buy sancho for 120m plus 340kpw wages, so lets not talk about their losses.

Juve are consistently linked with jorginho and milik among others. 

Simply put, a lot of clubs are going to see this as an opportunistic time. Where they can get a player of better quality for lesser than market value prices from teams who will be willing to offload some players. 

 

[King Kante 1,643]

45 minutes ago, Puliiszola said:

RM just offloaded James Rodriguez and his bloated contract to ATM for 15m euros. 200kpw and the last time he was half decent was in the 2014 world cup. Still think we will have a problem moving on players who are earning 10/20kpw more than what they should be?

United are going to buy sancho for 120m plus 340kpw wages, so lets not talk about their losses.

Juve are consistently linked with jorginho and milik among others. 

Simply put, a lot of clubs are going to see this as an opportunistic time. Where they can get a player of better quality for lesser than market value prices from teams who will be willing to offload some players. 

 

Well lets see. I hope you're right and I am wrong. 

[Jase 43,479]

A bit of 2+2=5 here but...

 

[Jase 43,479]

 

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

4 hours ago, Puliiszola said:

RM just offloaded James Rodriguez and his bloated contract to ATM for 15m euros. 200kpw and the last time he was half decent was in the 2014 world cup. 

James Rodriguez has 29 goals and 28 assists in LaLiga in 5409 minutes. Goal or assist every 95 minutes. Exactly same stats in Bundesliga. G or A every 95 minutes.

Forbid him to run and he is still better than Mount. Has football in his little finger.

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

James Rodriguez has 29 goals and 28 assists in LaLiga in 5409 minutes. Goal or assist every 95 minutes. Exactly same stats in Bundesliga. G or A every 95 minutes.

Forbid him to run and he is still better than Mount. Has football in his little finger.

Your obsession with Mount is...not healthy. 

[Pizy 18,944]

Jorginho & Barkley out, Havertz & Rice in. We just need one of these midtable suckers like West Ham or something to come in for Ross. Maybe one of the promoted sides looking to make a splashy signing.

[NikkiCFC 8,334]

8 minutes ago, Jason said:

Your obsession with Mount is...not healthy. 

I agree...