King Kante 1,643 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 So, if we do get Harvetz in for £75m'ish, surely that is our transfer funds gone with Werner and Ziyech as well. What does everyone think we need after that and how do they think the club can raise the cash to pull it off? For me, I would be looking at something like the following: GK2 - I have no time for Kepa but also appreciate that shifting him is almost impossible. Further, Willy is now getting to the stage where you want him as a GK3 rather than a GK2. For me, we should look at someone like Foster if Watford go down. He would be free and keep Kepa honest. If Kepa continues to be crap then next Summer's budget can go towards a GK as Foster is not going to completely disgrace himself. Free LB - For me, I do not want to spend crazy money on Chilwell. I have seen a lot of Chilwell this season and I just do not get the hype. If he wasn't English no one would want him. All he has over Alonso is stamina and pace, but Alonso is much better going forward. For me, it seems we really need a Robinson type (note not level as there isn't anyone available) of FB so we can play a back four then use Alonso in a back 5. For me, Telles ticks all the boxes here. Cheap, right age and can also take a set piece. He isn't get at defending but I do not think any of the top FB's are these days as if you want one that is good at defending you then need to accept they are going to play like Dave/AWB. £25m CB - This is where things get difficult. I just do not see a player where we can all go, take that one, then we are set. KK is still very good but is getting on a will be a sunk cost if brought. Romagnoli whilst good does have questions over his ability to play in a more physical league. Further I doubt he will leave Italy. My ideal is De Ligt but that would take next level amounts of cash and wages so he has to be ruled out. The other players that have been mentioned such as the Florence CB, I have not actually seen play a game and I do not recommend or dismiss players based on their youtube vids/stats. They may be great, but I cannot say and I fully appreciate they may be better than the two I am about to suggest. However, I wouldn't actually mind someone like a Dunk or a Coady. Both of those players organise/lead their back lines, have plenty of PL experience and are at a good age. Obviously these players are not going to become VDV reincarnated but with the way our CB's have been playing this season, just getting someone who can organise us and head a cross would be game changing. £35m. DMF/CB2 - Rice - I think he would actually be a very good long term bet but something needs to be done about his price as people are talking about £70m, which is almost Harvetz level. For me, £45-50m is fair when you take into consideration English tax. This I think will take some clever swap. I reckon we should be looking at Barkley plus £20m. When looking at out goings, we then have to get shot of the following; 1 x AC/Rudi/Zouma - I would probably lean towards keeping AC as I want to see him play alongside a commanding CB but appreciate others will want him gone. Fee to be recieved £25-£40m (depending on who is sold) Emerson - Loan to buy (€20m/£18m) Barkley - £25m-£35m/Swap Baka - £20m - I see loads of people give him £30m values but I just do not see it as he will end up at a Milan or something and they just do not have the cash. Also, lets be honest he is crap. Batsh*t - £15m Potential sales Jorgi - £35-£50m - Let's see is Sarri wants his 'son' back. Kante - £75m - Only to be sold for a high offer. Can see PSG doing this. A number of the loan players these will probably go for £1-£6m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Chelsea still interested in Oblak, deals remains difficult and we would have to pay his release clause. Valencia interested in Kepa. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 IN - Havertz (Budget spent) OUT - Willian, Kepa, Emerson, Rudiger and Jorginho BUY - Onana/Cakir, Taglifico/Telles and CB. Swap Barkley and Batshit for Egg fried Rice. Job done. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Having the base of our midfield being Rice + one of Kante, Jorginho, or Billy would be immense. And if we are indeed after Rice I pray it's as a DM. It's where he has played for all but 1 of West Ham's games since the restart. He looked mediocre in defense but has looked great in midfield. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Havertz is blowing up on twitter from many sources just like Werner did just before we signed him. Personal terms done, nailing down details with the club. Vesper and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Just look at the goals conceded by Reims. Best in Ligue1. Better than PSG even. And there was a time around winter when they were number one in top5 leagues. Tibo was probably the only one with less goals conceded by the time French league was stopped. He may get transfer in some solid team this summer like Milan, Valencia if they sell first keepers. He's a fucking bossman Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Rajkovic would be cheap as chips as well (Vesper already mentioned) I reckon we could buy him for less than we would sell Kepa! Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 When could this have happened? I thought Germany was still strict about entering? killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 When could this have happened? I thought Germany was still strict about entering? Bullshit lolSent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Chelsea consider signing new goalkeeper whether or not Kepa Arrizabalaga leaves https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/20/chelsea-consider-signing-new-goalkeeper-put-pressure-kepaarrizabalaga/ Chelsea will consider signing a new goalkeeper even if Kepa Arrizabalaga does not leave Stamford Bridge this summer. Frank Lampard’s decision to stick with his FA Cup goalkeeper, Willy Caballero, for the semi-final victory over Manchester United underlined the fact that Arrizabalaga is yet to fully win over Chelsea’s head coach. Arrizabalaga has suffered a difficult season in which he lost his Premier League place to Caballero for a time and has faced questions over a number of goals Chelsea have conceded. Lampard has offered the Spaniard no guarantees past this season, although it would be hard for Chelsea to sell him for anywhere near what they would want given he joined for a £71.6million fee — a world record for a goalkeeper. Long-term loan moves to Valencia and Seville have been suggested in Spain, along with Chelsea potentially offering the player as part of bids for other goalkeepers such as Jan Oblak or Marc-Andre ter Stegen. But with Atletico Madrid unlikely to want to do business on Oblak, whose release clause is €120 million, nor Barcelona on Ter Stegen — and Chelsea facing the prospect of subsidising Arrizabalaga's wages to send him out on loan — another scenario is being considered. Should Arrizabalaga stay, then Chelsea will still examine whether a new goalkeeper could be brought in to put more pressure on him and challenge more regularly for the No 1 spot. Caballero, who signed a one-year contract extension through to next summer, could drop down to No 3 with a new man, not of the level of Oblak or Ter Stegen, joining to battle with Kepa. That may seem harsh on Cabellero, but the Argentinian turns 39 in September, and it would be a risk for Lampard to go into next season once again relying on him and Arrizabalaga. While Lampard and director Marina Granovskaia will have the final say on all transfers, identifying a new goalkeeper is likely to fall on the shoulders of technical and performance director Petr Cech and his former coach Christophe Lollichon. Lollichon, the man who worked so successfully with Cech during their time together as player and coach at Stamford Bridge, is still working at Chelsea as part of the scouting department. He and Cech are likely to draw up two lists of potential goalkeeper targets, depending on whether or not Arrizabalaga stays at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: When could this have happened? I thought Germany was still strict about entering? ZAPHOD2319 and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Kicker Atalanta left back Robin Gosens 26, is at the top of the list at #Chelsea, who are looking for a left-back in addition to Kai Havertz's signing. #CFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jype 6,398 Posted July 20, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted July 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Kicker Atalanta left back Robin Gosens 26, is at the top of the list at #Chelsea, who are looking for a left-back in addition to Kai Havertz's signing. #CFC Gosens' stats this season are insane, 9 goals and 8 assists in Serie A. But positionally he's a lot like Alonso, way more comfortable playing as a wing-back rather than a traditional full-back in a four man backline. Not convinced by his defensive abilities. I'd also be wary of buying anyone from Atalanta. They've been an amazing team this season but I think not many individuals from that squad could replicate the same level of performances for another team. Kind of like Monaco 2017, could be some real gems in there (Mbappe, Bernardo Silva, Fabinho) but just as easily also total duds (Lemar, Bakayoko etc.) Vesper, Bosnian Blue, Massie and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 If Havertz happens, wouldn't that put Ziyech on the RW? Would CHO be happy getting sparse minutes and FA cup starts? Or better to loan him to see if he develops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dec 33 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 On top of Jype's comments, he hasn't played in a back four consistently for Atalanta. The last time he even played in a back four was in 2016/17 for Heracles in Holland. The transition to this would take some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: If Havertz happens, wouldn't that put Ziyech on the RW? Would CHO be happy getting sparse minutes and FA cup starts? Or better to loan him to see if he develops? So you'd be happy going into next season with just Pulisic and Ziyech as winger options? Willian and Pedro are both gone so if anything Hudson-Odoi should have less competition than this season. I know Werner and Havertz could cover on the wings if needed, but that's not a natural position for either of them. Puliiszola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I'm asking if CHO would be happy with not being a starter. I would prefer him to be on the squad. He tried to have starter written into his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 52 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: I'm asking if CHO would be happy with not being a starter. I would prefer him to be on the squad. He tried to have starter written into his contract. Not showing starter material any time he comes on, not that that's been a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,140 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Problem with CHO, RLC and Tammy will be the same next season for me. They will all want to play and start games, not happening for me with the likes of Werner, Ziyech and Havertz if that happens. They aren't players that will be happy sat out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Problem with CHO, RLC and Tammy will be the same next season for me. They will all want to play and start games, not happening for me with the likes of Werner, Ziyech and Havertz if that happens. They aren't players that will be happy sat out. Tbh, everything I have seen of RLC tells me he is just happy to be here. I cannot see him pushing to move if he is a squad player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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