Chelsea Transfers

[Tomo 21,751]

58 minutes ago, King Kante said:

As for the money, it is exactly as you describe. Pay stupid money on him and then you are lumbered with him with the team seriously stuffering for years as you cannot recoup the money. For me a better example than Torres is Kepa, who we are now stuck with for god knows how long because some bright spark thought a funsized, t-rex armed GK would be a good idea at £72m + £9-10m a year for seven years. 

As for Chilwell's ability, I would actually rate Alonso above him as they are both above the same level defensively but Alonso scores and assists a lot more. Personally, I wouldn't even mind the Chilwell links so much if there were not other players about we could get, but with players such as Telles (£20-25m) and Tagliafico (£25m) knocking about a £40-70m transfer for Chilwell is lunacy. 

I'm a little less nervous about Kepa because of the football we play. Watching a lot of City this season, now they have started falling off and the defense is offering less protection we're seeing a lot of similar flaws in Ederson's game coming home to roost (like Kepa he's getting beat from long range a lot, letting in shots he should be saving, and he isn't great in the air either) which gives me some hope we can challenge for a title with him aslong as the team is fully functioning Infront of him.

[jandomi10 82]

West Ham are the early favourites to sign Michy Batshuayi, who Chelsea have valued at £40M.

Crystal Palace remain admirers of the 26-year-old.

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, jandomi10 said:

West Ham are the early favourites to sign Michy Batshuayi, who Chelsea have valued at £40M.

Crystal Palace remain admirers of the 26-year-old.

lol If Marina is able to get that price for Batshuayi...

[killer1257 3,282]

lol If Marina is able to get that price for Batshuayi...

I would be happy if we even get half that amount

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[King Kante 1,643]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

I'm a little less nervous about Kepa because of the football we play. Watching a lot of City this season, now they have started falling off and the defense is offering less protection we're seeing a lot of similar flaws in Ederson's game coming home to roost (like Kepa he's getting beat from long range a lot, letting in shots he should be saving, and he isn't great in the air either) which gives me some hope we can challenge for a title with him aslong as the team is fully functioning Infront of him.

I see where you are coming from but a better comparison for Kepa is Bravo. For me they are both about the same level. Ederson does have flaws but he is still much better than Kepa/Bravo as at least he can control his six yard box on set pieces where the other two look like 15 year old boys against men. 

[King Kante 1,643]

55 minutes ago, Jason said:

lol If Marina is able to get that price for Batshuayi...

If Granny gets anything over £20m for Batsh*t in this market with only one year on his contract then she will be doing wonders. 

[AOIRO 64]

Chilwell 60m

Havertz  90m

Onana  45m

Ake  20m ?

 

Batshuayi  25m

Bakayoko 20m

Barkley  25m

Jorginho &　Emerson   45m

Zouma  20m

 

[milka 3,393]

Chelsea have a 3 year plan geared around investment to challenge Europe's elite again, with Abramovich ready to be bolder in the market.

1st year to stabilise the squad ( like 2002-03)

2nd year to challenge for honours  (  like 2003- 04 )

3rd year to win titles  ( like 2004-05 ,2005-06)

[Tomo 21,751]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

lol If Marina is able to get that price for Batshuayi...

 

1 hour ago, killer1257 said:

I would be happy if we even get half that amount

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If a lot of clubs want him we may be able to get something around that amount. Michy's shit overall play saw to any hope of playing regular here but he will if starting every week guarantee 15 goals a season which is golddust at the other end of the league.

[Superblue 6,372]

37 minutes ago, Tomo said:

 

If a lot of clubs want him we may be able to get something around that amount. Michy's shit overall play saw to any hope of playing regular here but he will if starting every week guarantee 15 goals a season which is golddust at the other end of the league.

Completely agree, at the bottom end of the table teams can accommodate a player that offers little if they score goals. 

Teams at the top need more from their players, and Batshuayi is just such a limited player. I think it is definitely worth noting that despite hitting a rich vein of goal scoring form at Dortmund, they ended up passing on purchasing him outright.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

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[King Kante 1,643]

10 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

 

My money is on Cavani on a free. 

[King Kante 1,643]

2 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

 

They can have Jorgi and Emerson for De Ligt. 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

44 minutes ago, King Kante said:

They can have Jorgi and Emerson for De Ligt. 

No way.....deligt hasnt done superbly at Juve but he has good potential. I dont want Jorgo to leave either.

On BC I dont see what FL sees in him, he is above average for me. I would pay big bucks for a 23 year old AC not BC. I think Tomori would de a decent job at fullback, he has the pace and frame.

[King Kante 1,643]

37 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

No way.....deligt hasnt done superbly at Juve but he has good potential. I dont want Jorgo to leave either.

On BC I dont see what FL sees in him, he is above average for me. I would pay big bucks for a 23 year old AC not BC. I think Tomori would de a decent job at fullback, he has the pace and frame.

Thing with De Ligt is that I do not think Italy is a good country for him to be playing. For me, he is more of a dominating CB who is better in leagues such as PL/Bundesliga etc as in Italy (or Spain if he went there) he gets fouls given against him that wouldn't here. Further, whilst good on the ball he isn't the most technical which again means Italy/Spain aren't the best places for him. For those reasons, I am not really worried about his form at Juve as not only is he young but Italian football is not the best for his skill set. It is kind of like how AC would probably be considered a very good defender in Spain but is considered a weakling here. 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

41 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Thing with De Ligt is that I do not think Italy is a good country for him to be playing. For me, he is more of a dominating CB who is better in leagues such as PL/Bundesliga etc as in Italy (or Spain if he went there) he gets fouls given against him that wouldn't here. Further, whilst good on the ball he isn't the most technical which again means Italy/Spain aren't the best places for him. For those reasons, I am not really worried about his form at Juve as not only is he young but Italian football is not the best for his skill set. It is kind of like how AC would probably be considered a very good defender in Spain but is considered a weakling here. 

I think for most CBs going to Italy is a good move. Just look at the CBs theyve produced and developed in Serie A over the years in modern times and in the past. Even guys who are or have been linked with moves to the PL that have moved over from other leagues such as the likes of Koulibaly, Demiral, De Vrij, Skriniar etc have all visibly improved a lot in Serie A. The leagues a lot more tactical but I would be surprised if de Ligt doesnt bounce back next year. He still has plenty of time and the talent to go to the very very top.

[King Kante 1,643]

4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

I think for most CBs going to Italy is a good move. Just look at the CBs theyve produced and developed in Serie A over the years in modern times and in the past. Even guys who are or have been linked with moves to the PL that have moved over from other leagues such as the likes of Koulibaly, Demiral, De Vrij, Skriniar etc have all visibly improved a lot in Serie A. The leagues a lot more tactical but I would be surprised if de Ligt doesnt bounce back next year. He still has plenty of time and the talent to go to the very very top.

I think De Ligt is great, that is why I want him. Personally, I think he would be better off in England or Germany but I also wouldn't be surprised if he does bounce back next year in Italy as for me he is will be the best CB in the world in the next 2-4 years time. 

[Atomiswave 6,117]

He has  the ability and potential, we will see how he does next season. No chance we are in for him anyway or that Juve will sell.

[Vesper 30,185]

9 hours ago, Johnnyeye said:

altought the Torres transfer was a major fuck up from the board, it must be said, we can't deny he played a crucial role in us winning back to back european trophies. If we had gotten Aguero back then we would have been set for years in the striker department no doubt, but its all if and buts right now, could we have won the Champions League and Europa League with Aguero? maybe, but i look at City in europe and they havent come close to winning any european trophy, even with Aguero leading the line and he's not getting any younger.

no team can win with the absolute overall shit level of CB's they have had

the 2 good ones have had massive injury problems for the year and a half they were together (Kompany and Laporte) especially Kompany (who also was past his prime by then)

if they had those two in their prime the whole Pep tenure, then they might have had a chance

Stones (so overrated) and Otamendi (dogshit and now too old as well, to show you how much I do NOT rate him, I would take an equal age, say 26yo, David Luiz ALL DAY over a 26yo Otamendi) are simply not CL-winning CB's

as good as Laporte is (and I rate the hell out of him) when Shitty get deep in the CL, their defence atm will be exposed, the teams at QF and SF and final levels are just too good to not exploit it

look at what the bindippers did to them in spring 2018 (and that was Pep's best Shitty team so far)

victimpool destroyed them 5 1 on aggregate (Kompany was carrying a knock that hurt his play in the first game, and didnt play the second)