Fernando 6,585 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 44 minutes ago, Vesper said: it ultimately caused the big 4 (Bayern, Manure, Barca, and Real) to drive through FFP to protect their arse from completion, Shitty and PSG have been swatted for it (along with us, those are the only 3 huge spenders to try and challenge the big 4, as AC Milan have collapsed and Ajax cannot compete due to a shitty little league, look at how even Liverpool have done it (other than VVD, only reasonable buys), and are hamstrung now... Werner!) I think Liverpool also spend big because stupid Barcelona gave them a lot of money for Coutinho. 51 minutes ago, Jason said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/06/05/exclusive-petr-cechs-major-role-chelsea-transfers/ Frank Lampard and Petr Cech made an undercover pre-lockdown trip to Germany that helped Chelsea leapfrog Liverpool and Manchester United to convince Timo Werner to move to Stamford Bridge. Telegraph Sport can reveal that the pair gave Chelsea’s bid to sign the forward the personal touch, as they laid out their plans for how Werner will fit into Lampard’s vision for the team. It is understood that the visit from Lampard and Cech, who won three Premier League titles and the Champions League as Chelsea team-mates, hugely impressed Werner, his family and his representatives. The feeling was mutual, as Lampard and Cech were encouraged by Werner’s driven but humble character, and the trio have since remained in contact. Cech played a key role, as both Werner’s father and his agent Karlheinz Forster are not fluent in English but the former goalkeeper speaks perfect German and he was able to translate, as well as offering his own expertise. Werner was told about how Lampard wants his team to look next season and the duo talked to the 24-year-old about the winning mentality they want to breed at Stamford Bridge. Lampard had made Werner his priority some time ago and enquiries had been made before Christmas with Cech holding a first round of talks ahead of the January transfer window, but Werner did not want to leave Leipzig mid-season. Liverpool were thought to be leading the race to sign the Germany international, thanks to their charismatic manager Jurgen Klopp, while Manchester United had also shown an interest. Both clubs made personal contact before Chelsea, but Lampard and Cech proved their pulling power. The journey to Germany, which is believed to have taken place back in Chelsea’s February mid-season break before the coronavirus pandemic struck, gives an indication of the approach to transfers that Lampard, Cech and director Marina Granovskaia are taking. Granovskaia gave her full backing to Lampard and Cech making the trip, which made it clear Chelsea were prepared to meet the £53 million release clause if the player could be tempted. It also left Chelsea in an excellent position to complete the deal at a time when Werner and his agent could not travel to England because of the coronavirus restrictions and the resumption of the Bundesliga. Granovskaia had often been the lone negotiator following the departure of former technical director Michael Emenalo. By the time he left, ex-head coach Antonio Conte’s relationship with the club had broken down and his successor Maurizio Sarri often proved difficult to contact as he did not use WhatsApp. But Cech’s appointment as technical performance advisor last summer, together with Lampard’s return to the club, has helped to bring the on and off-pitch departments back together. Lampard and Cech make a formidable pair to lead talks with targets over Chelsea’s on-the-pitch aims, with Granovskaia able to concentrate more on the business side of deals, for which she is rated the best in her field. The meeting in Germany earlier this year left Granovskaia in the perfect position to strike, when Liverpool stalled over paying Werner’s release clause together with wages worth around £200,000-a-week. Werner will become Chelsea’s second signing of the summer transfer window, following Hakim Ziyech, who also fell for the Lampard-Cech charm offensive. Lampard spoke with Ziyech and kept in touch with the attacking midfielder over telephone messages during Chelsea’s negotiations over his move from Ajax in a deal worth £37m. Cech was also present in every meeting with the Morocco international and his agent. Describing his talks with Lampard, Ziyech said: “We had a few long conversations about his approach, the playing style, the club, about me personally. And later on we texted quite a lot.” The arrivals of Ziyech and Werner could coincide with the summer departures of Willian and Pedro, with Roma hoping to sign Pedro on a free transfer. lol at that part. Vesper and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Fernando said: I think Liverpool also spend big because stupid Barcelona gave them a lot of money for Coutinho. Yes they only spend big when they sell best players. Torres, Suarez, Sterling, Coutinho... In 10 days Salah, Mane and Firmino are all 28 + years old. I just hope PSG or some other team is not stupid enough to buy them and give Liverpool a chance to rebuild. They wanted Werner, Dembele, Fekir, Pulisic... Johnnyeye and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Vesper 30,185 Posted June 5, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted June 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Yes they only spend big when they sell best players. Torres, Suarez, Sterling, Coutinho... In 10 days Salah, Mane and Firmino are all 28 + years old. I just hope PSG or some other team is not stupid enough to buy them and give Liverpool a chance to rebuild. They wanted Werner, Dembele, Fekir, Pulisic... which Dembele? saying Dembele or Traore for footballers is like saying Johnson or Taylor for barristers or bankers in the City, roflmaoooooooooooo Johnnyeye, Strike, killer1257 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: which Dembele? saying Dembele for footballers is like saying Johnson for barristers or bankers in the City, roflmaoooooooooooo haha the one in Barca. Vesper and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,915 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, Jason said: People should just listen to this podcast on our pursuit of Werner and more... https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/werner-to-chelsea-the-inside-story/id1488521447?i=1000476889309 I listened to this earlier this morning. Funny how a German football expert like Rafa Honigstein says Werner is a top, top player and an absolute steal of a buy at €50m, yet we have internet noobs all over the place saying "meh, he's nothing special." 😂 We just got ultra lucky that the virus is fucking up lots of clubs AND almost every other top club is pretty set at his position. If this was a normal summer Werner would be a £80-100m player that everyone would be vying for. Vesper, DDA and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Pizy said: I listened to this earlier this morning. Funny how a German football expert like Rafa Honigstein says Werner is a top, top player and an absolute steal of a buy at €50m, yet we have internet noobs all over the place saying "meh, he's nothing special." 😂 We just got ultra lucky that the virus is fucking up lots of clubs AND almost every other top club is pretty set at his position. If this was a normal summer Werner would be a £80-100m player that everyone would be vying for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOIRO 64 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Morata has Good face . Marina bought him for 60m . Kepa has Good face . Marina bought him for 70m . Kai Havertz has Good face too . Marina will buy him for 80m＋ . 11Drogba, Vesper and Fernando 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,915 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Speaking of Jose, I'm expecting fireworks this summer from him. He's going to watch his old club Chelsea signing Werner, Ziyech, Chilwell, etc, he's going to watch his old club United probably sign Sancho. City will undoubtedly splash the cash. Meanwhile Levy will probably be tighter than he already was in the best of times pre-COVID. Mou is going to be bargain bin shopping! 😂😂😂 11Drogba, Tomo and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Pizy said: Speaking of Jose, I'm expecting fireworks this summer from him. He's going to watch his old club Chelsea signing Werner, Ziyech, Chilwell, etc, he's going to watch his old club United probably sign Sancho. City will undoubtedly splash the cash. Meanwhile Levy will probably be tighter than he already was in the best of times pre-COVID. Mou is going to be bargain bin shopping! 😂😂😂 Well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Pizy said: Speaking of Jose, I'm expecting fireworks this summer from him. He's going to watch his old club Chelsea signing Werner, Ziyech, Chilwell, etc, he's going to watch his old club United probably sign Sancho. City will undoubtedly splash the cash. Meanwhile Levy will probably be tighter than he already was in the best of times pre-COVID. Mou is going to be bargain bin shopping! 😂😂😂 Willian and Fraser for free. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Spurs have had to borrow from the fucking banks haven't they? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Well... Yeah, they took a £175m Corona loan from the Govt. From what I understand, they cannot use any of that loan for transfers which suggests they will have to do swaps or frees unless someone buys Kane for £100m or something. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, King Kante said: Yeah, they took a £175m Corona loan from the Govt. From what I understand, they cannot use any of that loan for transfers which suggests they will have to do swaps or frees unless someone buys Kane for £100m or something. In other words, they have no money. Vesper, Fernando, King Kante and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Superblue 6,372 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, King Kante said: Yeah, they took a £175m Corona loan from the Govt. From what I understand, they cannot use any of that loan for transfers which suggests they will have to do swaps or frees unless someone buys Kane for £100m or something. Not sure why they wouldn't be allowed to use the money for transfers. That's like a business taking one of these bounce back loans and not being able to spend the money buying stock or capital equipment. Some of Spurs creditors that need paying off this summer are likely to be transfer fee instalments for previous buys. In any event, Levy is far too cautious to go out and buy big. With the interest rate at 0.5% he's probably using the money to cover other borrowings this year that are on higher interest rates to save a couple of million. I did however read earlier that United would potentially be entitled to take this loan also. I wouldn't put it past them to try and use that to help fund Sancho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Not sure why they wouldn't be allowed to use the money for transfers. That's like a business taking one of these bounce back loans and not being able to spend the money buying stock or capital equipment. Some of Spurs creditors that need paying off this summer are likely to be transfer fee instalments for previous buys. In any event, Levy is far too cautious to go out and buy big. With the interest rate at 0.5% he's probably using the money to cover other borrowings this year that are on higher interest rates to save a couple of million. I did however read earlier that United would potentially be entitled to take this loan also. I wouldn't put it past them to try and use that to help fund Sancho! Think Spurs still gotta pay off their new stadium or something? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILeoniBlu 37 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jason said: For me already 40 are too many... 60 would be madness. Tomo, Vesper and Supermonkey92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,915 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 It really is bananas how every PL based English player has such a huge premium on their valuation. If Chilwell were from a random Eastern European country or a South American or something he'd literally cost half the money. Can't blame the club's of course. Leicester are likely to get picked apart piece by piece soon and should obviously demand massive fees. Chilwell, Maddison, Ndidi, their RB. Big boys are gonna come sniffing soon. I really think Chilwell would be perfect for us but we'd be insane to pay Maguire money. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, ILeoniBlu said: For me already 40 are too many... 60 would be madness. He is such a bang average player. I really do not want him unless he is £20m or something and even then I would probably play Alonso in front of him. The fortunate thing in this however is that it is pretty much proven the press do not have a clue what we are actually up too, so this is just them guessing and if it does not work out they can say someone 'hijacked' us if he goes elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandomi10 82 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jason said: 60 is way too mutch, max 40 or Tagliafico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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