closed Chelsea 0-0 Brighton

[Jase 43,479]

16 minutes ago, Azul said:

Why didn't he bring Kante on? Unbelievable and shocking decision making from Tuchel.

Remember when you got carried away after the Palace game? 😜

If anything, I would have brought Gilmour on. Be bold. Would also Gilmour to actually make forward passes from midfield. 

[BlueGuy 10]

10 minutes ago, Azul said:

Don't people understand that:

Winning the midfield battle = Getting more opportunities offensively

This is football 101

I know how gengerpressing works, but if you win the ball ahead, the opposing team will defend lower, closing the space and we have always the same problem, nobody of our players is able to create opportunity for score.

[Vesper 30,185]

If we sweep all our games but Citeh, we are on 70 points (for weeks I figured 72 to 74)

if Leicester lose to us and Manure, win the rest, they are on 71

If West Ham lose to us and win the rest, they are on 70 points, BUT we are +8 in GD, and beating them takes us yo at least +10

if Liverpool lose to Manure (this is massive game) and win the rest (they play ALL shit other that Manure) they are on 68, that draw was HUGE (Leeds)

 

so its up to us to win 5 of 6

and then Manure has to beat Pool, and if Manure and we beat Leicester, then one fuck up from Leicester and we get 3rd IF we win 5 of the 6

the huge problem is

our 6 games left

are

the hardest in the league of anyone

West Ham

Fulham

Citeh

Arsenal

Leicester

Villa

 

 

 

[milka 3,393]

"I was affected so I think the players were affected. We talk of nothing else but #SuperLeague before the match. Nobody asked about the match before. We tried to create an atmosphere to win the game but could not."

- Thomas Tuchel

[Vesper 30,185]

these 5 dropped points (West Brom and BHA) are disasters

as we have basically ZERO wiggle room other than one loss allowed (as long as that loss is not against West ham)

as long as Pool lose one more game (Manure BY far most likely)

then 5 wins and no one can catch us for 4th (again as long as that one loss is NOT against West ham)

 

[Jase 43,479]

18 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Offensive players have to do better indeed but even then the intent didn’t look there, you can get games where your plugging away and the final ball is just never right but you get a lucky break or a shot deflecting in or you cause a mistake etc as we seen for Chilly’s goal v Porto but we didn’t even do enough to get that. 

Tuchel will not be happy for sure. The line up wasn't that bad to start with tbf the issue was more the teams application. 

Forcing mistakes from pressing shouldn't be the main mode of our chance creation. 

I was just thinking earlier, we don't really seem to have any combination plays in the final third, do we? We still just seem to be relying on individuals to do something. We have won lots of games under Tuchel because we played well in patches during games and took our chances during that period, notably against the lesser sides.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

15 minutes ago, Azul said:

Do you know how gegenpressing works? Recovering balls is key in creating chances especially high up the pitch. Kante would've been key in us pressing Brighton high up the field and them pushing back which would've created more opportunities in transition.

Aye, in theory thats how it works. Correct.

Throwing it out there as if it would of definitely done so isn’t a guarantee. Even more so saying one man would make the difference it relies on the whole team working together as a unit for it to work.  

The way your talking about it is as if Kante is winning the ball back from 11 players himself... counter pressing, its a team effort and tonight the intensity wasn’t there from most of of our players so it likely would of still been ineffective.

[Vesper 30,185]

1 minute ago, milka said:

"I was affected so I think the players were affected. We talk of nothing else but #SuperLeague before the match. Nobody asked about the match before. We tried to create an atmosphere to win the game but could not."

- Thomas Tuchel

I am not blaming Tuchel for that

I am blaming him for that shit line-up only

it cost us 2 VITAL points

[Vytis33 1,272]

 

Back line passing back and forth back and forth...

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

As I was saying to @King Kante the other day, it might be easier for us to qualify for the Champions League by actually winning it considering we do better against the bigger teams than the smaller ones. 

[Vesper 30,185]

Just now, Jason said:

As I was saying to @King Kante the other day, it might be easier for us to qualify for the Champions League by actually winning it considering we do better against the bigger teams than the smaller ones. 

well obviously we would ALL rather win the CL and just go off the rails in the EPL

but the CL is not remotely guaranteed at all, at all

[Vesper 30,185]

this game (and the west brom game) have so put the boots to our margin of error allowed

[chippy 342]

17 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

We need a world class player in every part of the field. Games like these happen. But really world class players can turn this around with one moment of brilliance. How man my of these days were turned around by a late Lampard screamer or a towering frog a header deep into stoppage time? They did not even cover the distance bc they n we we can’t shoot. We did not even create a fkin corner. This was absolutely pathetic 

I can see how this is going to psn out.

This squad is nowhere near good enough to challenge for the title. We don't challenge again next season, so off we go and bring in another manager. Its going to take a progressive, attack minded manager  2 or 3 years to turn this around but we know they won't get that time, so we keep doing what used to work but won't work now. TT isn't that progressive, attack minded manager anyway, so we're probably looking at only winning Cups from now on.

 

[Vesper 30,185]

http://allsportsmedia.live/novo/footy/tue-blues/

Tuchel live

[Azul 1,615]

13 minutes ago, Jason said:

Remember when you got carried away after the Palace game? 😜

If anything, I would have brought Gilmour on. Be bold. Would also Gilmour to actually make forward passes from midfield. 

Carried away with what?

[Vesper 30,185]

Just now, Vesper said:

http://allsportsmedia.live/novo/footy/tue-blues/

Tuchel live

or taped, not sure

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

points out that the distraction by SL fucked up our rhythm. Thanks Bruce ...

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

10 minutes ago, Jason said:

Forcing mistakes from pressing shouldn't be the main mode of our chance creation. 

I was just thinking earlier, we don't really seem to have any combination plays in the final third, do we? We still just seem to be relying on individuals to do something. We have won lots of games under Tuchel because we played well in patches during games and took our chances during that period, notably against the lesser sides.

Fully agree.

With regards to Ziyech and Pulisic I was disappointed but it was a tough game and you cannot play well every game. Mason played deeper and maybe it wasn’t great in a 2 either as it restricts him getting into those pockets and being the player most likely to link midfield and attack as he has done in previous games. 

The obvious shit surrounding ESL obviously affected the players maybe and Tuchel just said on sky he felt we were maybe distracted and maybe tired but ultimately he seems disappointed and reckons we did not deserve to win.

Edited April 20, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[chippy 342]

8 minutes ago, milka said:

"I was affected so I think the players were affected. We talk of nothing else but #SuperLeague before the match. Nobody asked about the match before. We tried to create an atmosphere to win the game but could not."

- Thomas Tuchel

We were evey bit as piss poor against Leeds, West Brom and others when there was no talk of the SL.This kind of performance is nothing new under you MR T.

 

[Azul 1,615]

6 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Aye, in theory thats how it works. Correct.

Throwing it out there as if it would of definitely done so isn’t a guarantee. Even more so saying one man would make the difference it relies on the whole team working together as a unit for it to work.  

The way your talking about it is as if Kante is winning the ball back from 11 players himself... counter pressing, its a team effort and tonight the intensity wasn’t there from most of of our players so it likely would of still been ineffective.

It's not a theory, it's a fact. It's a fact that Kante would've helped the midfield press Brighton and do us a lot defensively.

However, this is a clear case of Chelsea fans underestimating the importance of Kante who's able to win the midfield battles. We couldn't get the ball past the midfield for most of the game, and that was the biggest reason why we couldn't create chances.

Our chances of being effective offensively and winning the game, would've been much better then keeping Mount in a position where he's not effective whatsoever.