The Tuchel Thread

[Vegetable 830]

1 hour ago, lucio said:

tuchel will end the season strongly and move to Barca and dominate 

Barca or not, Tuchel will be welcomed in big club even more, than Mou was after every of his sackings. Still an elite manager and sane person probably sees the problem of him „struggling” in Bayern (well, that's relative, it's hard not to dominate with Bayern in 98% farmers league, yet it's hard to expect a club to win everything for indefinite amount of time as it's just impossible and it's not like they are battling relegation as we used to recently) is more a problem of Bayern itself, than Tuchel himself (pretty much lighter version of what we have here, although I'm far from rating Poch highly, can't really full scapegoat him here). No comparison to likes of Lampard or Potter.

Modern football is a carousel of million variables, if it won't click it won't, but it usually means more systemic issues, than one player/manager lacking. It's tad more complicated, than spamming million of pages of rating everyone highly when club does good and bashing everyone when things go south.

[KEVINAA 129]

Andy Goldstein QUESTIONS If Thomas Tuchel Is A BETTER Fit For Liverpool Than Xabi Alonso!

I've seen theories TT replaces Southgate after Gareth leaves at the end of Euros 2024.

Tuchel replaces Arteta in a few seasons or Tottenham after sacking Ange Postecoglou.

Edited February 22, 2024 by KEVINAA

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

Get him back here, I miss him

[calculatingInfinity 1,472]

Anyone who thinks Tuchel is or ever was the answer are crazy. Dont even think Chelsea in the current state, would throw a 2-0 lead to fucking Heidenheim.

But but but he won CL.

So did Di Matteo and Avram Grant was a cunthair away from doing it as well. Do we wish them back?

At least those didnt fall out with every single board and dressing room theyve been in.

Edited April 6, 2024 by calculatingInfinity

[Mhsc 1,091]

I miss his passion and the way he grabbed Conte's hand and stared him in the eyes... But not much else.

[Fernando 6,585]

I don't want him back. Under him we made really bad buys. 

[milka 3,390]

6 finals 3 big trophy , easy  top 4 in two season nobody want to play agains us  i want that bad time again . The only thing they had to do was to support him, not to interfere with his work and to get him a elite striker  and DM.

[Mhsc 1,091]

31 minutes ago, milka said:

6 finals 3 big trophy , easy  top 4 in two season nobody want to play agains us  i want that bad time again . The only thing they had to do was to support him, not to interfere with his work and to get him a elite striker  and DM.

Impossible to compare then vs now. He had a squad full of experienced talent many of whom could be considered to be amongst the best in the world in their position, with the experience to deliver results and manage games: Kante, Kovacic, Mendy, Azpi, Thiago, Rudiger, Jorgi, etc, and he got top 4 with 67 and then 74 pts, before Arsenal improved a lot and Newcastle, Brighton etc emerged. The league has been getting harder every year and is brutally hard now, everyone in the top 10 is pretty excellent.

Tuchel has now lost the league in Germany despite gaining Harry Kane who has chipped in 32 goals in 28 appearances.

Calling for him back is like calling for Mourinho back. Sure, they did special things here, with the squads and the state of football at the time, and the trophies they got were very impressive. But the situation at the club now and in the league now is just not the same and they do not have the patience to build something over time. Poch is pretty meh but he's much better suited to our situation than either of them would be, frankly continuing with Graham Potter would have been better than a move for Tuchel, Mou or Conte type managers. They are all phenomenal beasts in the right situation but this situation is not the one they excel in.

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

1 hour ago, milka said:

6 finals 3 big trophy , easy  top 4 in two season nobody want to play agains us  i want that bad time again . The only thing they had to do was to support him, not to interfere with his work and to get him a elite striker  and DM.

We supported him with Lukaku, Auba, Sterling... how that ended?

[milka 3,390]

23 hours ago, Mhsc said:

Impossible to compare then vs now. He had a squad full of experienced talent many of whom could be considered to be amongst the best in the world in their position, with the experience to deliver results and manage games: Kante, Kovacic, Mendy, Azpi, Thiago, Rudiger, Jorgi, etc, and he got top 4 with 67 and then 74 pts, before Arsenal improved a lot and Newcastle, Brighton etc emerged. The league has been getting harder every year and is brutally hard now, everyone in the top 10 is pretty excellent.

Tuchel has now lost the league in Germany despite gaining Harry Kane who has chipped in 32 goals in 28 appearances.

Calling for him back is like calling for Mourinho back. Sure, they did special things here, with the squads and the state of football at the time, and the trophies they got were very impressive. But the situation at the club now and in the league now is just not the same and they do not have the patience to build something over time. Poch is pretty meh but he's much better suited to our situation than either of them would be, frankly continuing with Graham Potter would have been better than a move for Tuchel, Mou or Conte type managers. They are all phenomenal beasts in the right situation but this situation is not the one they excel in.

We were in the title race at the same level with citeh and pool until James and Chilwell's injuries until then we were playing pure football and even beating teams like Juventus 4-0.The team was assembled and needed slight improvements as a DM and someone to score the thousands of chances that Werner missed even people like CHO and RLC was class that season .

 

 

Edited April 8, 2024 by milka

[Mhsc 1,091]

3 hours ago, milka said:

We were in the title race at the same level with citeh and pool until James and Chilwell's injuries until then we were playing pure football and even beating teams like Juventus 4-0.The team was assembled and needed slight improvements as a DM and someone to score the thousands of chances that Werner missed even people like CHO and RLC was class that season .

 

 

That is all true but it doesn't change anything that I said...

[Fernando 6,585]

Is it possible that Tuchel wins another CL? 

Bayern vs Real Madrid...