Jase 43,479 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Judy said: You wonder if Lampard will approve of this world class signing from the board? Is this a joke? He is probably jumping like a bunny like we are right now. Not every player can fit into a manager's plan, however good they are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,460 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 8 hours ago, Pizy said: Before Real Madrid starts fancying a shiny new toy, please..... He can always go to Real in 3 or 4 years after Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Judy said: You wonder if Lampard will approve of this world class signing from the board? Is this a joke? He is probably jumping like a bunny like we are right now. Havertz is lazy off the ball. No manager likes that. He would be an absolute luxury player and force Lampard to change his system or not start Pulisic or Ziyech. Shevchenko being forced on Mourinho in 2006 cost us the league title because we had to change our system with wingers to a diamond. The difference is mostly that we had a title winning squad dirsupter back then whilst now the team still has to be moulded. Anyway if Havertz really joins, which I still doubt, albeit we currently look like his most likely destination, we need to shed midfielders badly. Johnnyeye, Supermonkey92, Jase and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,529 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 07/07/2020 at 0:05 PM, Jason said: The thing is, who is gonna buy Rabiot? Can other clubs afford him? As for Jorginho, let's see if the Juventus rumors will pop up again because they have gone quiet recently. Rabiot would be a monster at Sevilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Havertz is lazy off the ball. No manager likes that. He would be an absolute luxury player and force Lampard to change his system or not start Pulisic or Ziyech. Shevchenko being forced on Mourinho in 2006 cost us the league title because we had to change our system with wingers to a diamond. The difference is mostly that we had a title winning squad dirsupter back then whilst now the team still has to be moulded. Anyway if Havertz really joins, which I still doubt, albeit we currently look like his most likely destination, we need to shed midfielders badly. Weren't we already back on a diamond at that point? I recall Drogba and Crespo became a strike partnership at the last 5 games as 433 was becoming stale and United were starting to creep up. Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tomo said: Weren't we already back on a diamond at that point? I recall Drogba and Crespo became a strike partnership at the last 5 games as 433 was becoming stale and United were starting to creep up. Really? i remeber it that we still would play Robben and Duff/Cole flanking Drogs and Crespo coming from the bench. could be wrong tho its been ages. We had so much quality in depth back then its crazy. 7 central midfielders including Tiago, Maniche, Lassana, Essien, 5 wingers and 4 stirkers with Gudjohnsen and Crespo too. Basically 2-3 top class players for every position. https://www.transfermarkt.de/fc-chelsea/kader/verein/631/saison_id/2005 Supermonkey92 and Johnnyeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Really? i remeber it that we still would play Robben and Duff/Cole flanking Drogs and Crespo coming from the bench. could be wrong tho its been ages. We had so much quality in depth back then its crazy. 7 central midfielders including Tiago, Maniche, Lassana, Essien, 5 wingers and 4 stirkers with Gudjohnsen and Crespo too. Basically 2-3 top class players for every position. https://www.transfermarkt.de/fc-chelsea/kader/verein/631/saison_id/2005 We switched to the diamond for the West Ham 4-1 game IIRC. Drogba and Crespo both scored in the first half. Johnnyeye and Magic Lamps 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Havertz certainly looks lazy off the ball to me. The similarity to ozil I don't want. False 9 would work great and probably Werner too. If not I wouldn't get him. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandomi10 84 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Liam Twomey @liam_twomey FYI, I’ve got a big Havertz piece going up on @TheAthleticUK tomorrow #CFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said: Havertz certainly looks lazy off the ball to me. The similarity to ozil I don't want. False 9 would work great and probably Werner too. If not I wouldn't get him. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk He is different to Özil tho. Much faster and better in the air. Likes to drift inside from the wing. Özil is completely useless out wide. Tbf he is useless anywhere by now. Timo and Havertz could easily play off each other and interchange vertically as opposed to a classic strike force with Havertz attacking long balls and Werner With the off the shoulder run. Once they would get used to the physicality they would wreak havoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 minute ago, jandomi10 said: Liam Twomey @liam_twomey FYI, I’ve got a big Havertz piece going up on @TheAthleticUK tomorrow #CFC It's a piece analyzing Havertz's game style and performances, something along those lines. He mentioned it in The Athletic podcast. Dimitr, killer1257, Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! jandomi10 84 Posted July 8, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted July 8, 2020 Kevin Palmer @RealKevinPalmer This tweet got a big reaction at this start of this week and there is an update (of sorts)... Chelsea insiders have now confirmed they are increasingly confident of finding an agreement with Bayern Leverkusen to sign Kai Havertz. Personal terms will not be an issue #CFC DDA, Johnnyeye, killer1257 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 minute ago, jandomi10 said: Kevin Palmer @RealKevinPalmer This tweet got a big reaction at this start of this week and there is an update (of sorts)... Chelsea insiders have now confirmed they are increasingly confident of finding an agreement with Bayern Leverkusen to sign Kai Havertz. Personal terms will not be an issue #CFC Everyone is trying to be the ITK. Only Matt Law, The Athletic and German sources should be trusted at this point... Strike, Nero, Dimitr and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Personal terms of course is not an issue . He didn’t say anything new ok we probably (80%) will find an agreement with Leverkusen. Kai wants to play with us . So the only problem is Leverkusen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,460 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said: Havertz is lazy off the ball. No manager likes that. https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/bayer-leverkusen-cologne-live-line-ups-stats-havertz-wirtz-bailey-cordoba-11561 Lazy players do not do this. Look at him at 00:44 making a great pass on his own half and than quickly moving to the box and scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,529 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 lol at people trying to call Havertz lazy just smdh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/bayer-leverkusen-cologne-live-line-ups-stats-havertz-wirtz-bailey-cordoba-11561 Lazy players do not do this. Look at him at 00:44 making a great pass on his own half and than quickly moving to the box and scoring. 12 minutes ago, Vesper said: lol at people trying to call Havertz lazy just smdh Think Magic Lamps was talking about his defensive work off the ball, not his movement off the ball. Supermonkey92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy 52 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, iceboy said: Fabrizio Romano @FabrizioRomano Kai Havertz agents told to Bayer Leverkusen he wants to leave the club if an “important bid” will arrive on next weeks. Chelsea board have contacted Havertz agents and Kai “would like” Chelsea as next step because of the project - also Werner would push him to join.#CFC Havertz will consider talks about personal terms (until 2025) if Chelsea will make an official bid to Leverkusen soon. Bayern Münich out of the race for this summer after signing Sané. Bayer asked today again €90M as price tag and have not received any official bid yet#CFC Get my boy in already! Also Rudiger should be knighted and legend status if he pulls this off. Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,460 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Great job by our board. First doing the harder work by convincing Tomo and Kai and then just drop money on their clubs when they are in checkmate position because players already told them they want to leave. This two signings are biggest statement we ever had. They are bigger names than what we bought in early Roman days. And back in the day we attracted players mostly with money now it is different. This is something I would expect Real Madrid being able to do. Amazing! So excited for the future... EDIT: *Timo not @Tomo he is here for years Fernando and Johnnyeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,014 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 So basically, if we demonstrate to him that we really want him by paying up, he's ours. He's absolutely open to joining us. We just have to come to an agreement with Bayer. Which of course is the tricky bit. Hopefully we act as decisively here as we did with Werner. And hopefully Werner and Rüdi are blowing up his phone convincing him to come here. Maybe even Lamps and Cech, too. 😆 Dimitr and Johnnyeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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