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I think people were way too quick to "admit they were wrong" about chilwell because he had a few decent games , he's looking like a mediocre signing at that price, if we are persisting with wing backs he will probably lose out to Alonso 

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24 minutes ago, lucio said:

I think people were way too quick to "admit they were wrong" about chilwell because he had a few decent games , he's looking like a mediocre signing at that price, if we are persisting with wing backs he will probably lose out to Alonso 

If you say people are too quick to admit they were wrong about Chilwell, then aren't you too quick to basically say "I told you he's average"? 

Admittedly, he has not been at his best recently but he has nowhere been disastrous and considering the players' form and performance level nosedived for one reason or another under Lampard, I'd wait and see what they can do under Tuchel going forward. 

I also don't think the back 3 is gonna be a permanent thing under Tuchel and if the club have any brain, they should sell Alonso ASAP (back 3 or not)!

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25 minutes ago, lucio said:

I think people were way too quick to "admit they were wrong" about chilwell because he had a few decent games , he's looking like a mediocre signing at that price, if we are persisting with wing backs he will probably lose out to Alonso 

I think his early season form was enough to suggest that he will be a good long term signing for us. You could argue the same about James who's form has also dropped off from the start of the season.

I think similar to Werner, he's been flogged to death so far this season and looks mentally and physically fatigued at the moment and is clearly low on confidence. He's also having to adapt to a new formation and role which is one Alonso is already accustomed to. I think the new manager is a good thing for him, Alonso will apply pressure to his place in the team and some rotation should freshen him up. 

Sheffield United have a knack of making pretty much anyone they play look fairly average and their own set up left no real space out wide for the wing backs to operate. 

I think over time Tuchel will move away from the back 3 and at that point there's absolutely no debate that Chilwell is the best left back at the club and when in form, for me, is one of the best left backs in the league.

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Hes struggled defensively for a bit and in phases of the season with Frank. Vs Southampton, the 3-3 game, he was particularly all over the place defensively I felt.

Said right at the beginning before we signed him defensively he wasn’t brilliant but again, have to be patient and also I think he prefers playing in a back 4 than as a wingback. 

He had a good start and for 50m you would expect that but even then over 4/5 years or whatever his contract and if he can be a bit smarter defensively and get his final ball more consistent, he will be an excellent player for us.

Would probably of still preferred Regulion because he looked very complete in both sides of the game at Seville (and in some of the games for Spurs I have seen, you can see this also) but Chilwell has been a pretty good signing so far. I hope Tuchel can get Chilwell to get his final ball to be better or more consistent because he arrives in the final third a lot as well as his defensive awareness, which can be better.

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When I saw him get hooked after a poor performance during the Wolves game, I knew it was only going to be a matter of time before Tuchel would restore Alonso to his place in a back 5 formation.

While I think we can manage with Alonso as a LWB for a while, its up to Chillwell to re-secure his place in the starting 11.

His performance has dipped a lot from his early season form. Hope the loss of his starting 11 spot will motivate him to do better in the future games.

We won't be playing back 5 forever, and Alonso will get caught out in any other formation.

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7 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

After not playing in Cup I expected him to play today but clearly Alonso is ahead now. Rightly so. 

Just wait until Alonso drops a clanger or two and then Tuchel will see why he was out of the team to begin with.

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12 minutes ago, Jason said:

Just wait until Alonso drops a clanger or two and then Tuchel will see why he was out of the team to begin with.

Will take some good opponents until he makes those kind of mistakes. Maybe Atletico will be his first real test. 

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4 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Will take some good opponents until he makes those kind of mistakes. Maybe Atletico will be his first real test. 

it is crazy how quickly Chilwell, Zouma, Kante, and Pulisic have fallen off the edge of the flat earth (joking about a flat earth, I am NOT insane)

Havertz too, but he is injured, has COVID long hauler effects and was not playing well anyway

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4 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Will take some good opponents until he makes those kind of mistakes. Maybe Atletico will be his first real test. 

Yup and we have some really big, tough teams to play. Atletico, Man United, Everton, Liverpool etc.

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

it is crazy how quickly Chilwell, Zouma, Kante, and Pulisic have fallen off the edge of the flat earth (joking about a flat earth, I am NOT insane)

Havertz too, but he is injured, has COVID long hauler effects and was not playing well anyway

I think Zouma just needs a chance. All the other players you mentioned are in a mess right now. 

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