🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Ben Chilwell

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

7 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Depends if it heals by itself. If it does we will see him again this season. If he needs surgery it will take ages. 
even if it is just 3 moths he will need another one to get match fit again. So should definitely be in the market in January 

We are going to be fleeced from other clubs. If the tear is grade 1 I say recall Maatsen. 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

12 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

 So should definitely be in the market in January 

In the market in case Chilwell is back in March? No chance.

We have many options. Alonso is great LWB. And now for me best options after him are CHO/Pulisic for that role. In majority of games we have like 65-70% possession and in our system wing backs are more important in attack.

Wing backs really dont have much job to do defensively for us... And we have behind 3 world class CBs and best GK in the world. My major concern is will players who replace Ben deliver in attack not that bothered about defensive part because we are so good. Also zero issues with CHO/Puli being right footed. Look at Cancelo, best LB in the world this season. Emerson/Kenedy/Maatsen and Azpi as 3rd and 4th possible option. And even Saul as another option. We will be fine.

Edited November 24, 2021 by NikkiCFC

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

In the market in case Chilwell is back in March? No chance.

We have many options. Alonso is great LWB. And now for me best options after him are CHO/Pulisic for that role. In majority of games we have like 65-70% possession and in our system wing backs are more important in attack.

Wing backs really dont have much job to do defensively for us... And we have behind 3 world class CBs and best GK in the world. My major concern is will players who replace Ben deliver in attack not that bothered about defensive part because we are so good. Also zero issues with CHO/Puli being right footed. Look at Cancelo, best LB in the world this season. Emerson/Kenedy/Maatsen and Azpi as 3rd and 4th possible option. We will be fine.

Maatsen would be the ideal solution considering he can grow into the team and inevitably replace Alonso moving forward. 

[milka 3,394]

Marcos Alonso gets way too much disrespect . This system suits him & no doubt he’ll score some important goals if selected.

Edited November 24, 2021 by milka

[Jase 43,479]

11 minutes ago, Tomo said:

This also shows we need to do all we can to get Livramento back next summer *just incase* something similar happens to James.

Is this a serious post or not? 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

He will miss CWC for which we still do not know the date 🙄

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 minute ago, Jase said:

Who can we realistically buy that doesn't require us to spend big in January?

Unless we're ditching Alonso at the end of this, I don't see the point in buying a LWB in January because when Chilwell returns, we would have 3 LWBs on our hands.

The choice is indeed slim and I dont see anyone available for cheap, even if we just loan (which would make no sonse, given we still have saul on loan who has played that position for ages) Below is the list of all leftbacks. Only wank after place 17. It is rumoured my top choice, theo, would cost 65m€. IMO absolutely worth it. Ferland mendy is someone real madrid have tried to get rid of before. Not sure on how much money he is on tho.He is a bit overrated anyway.

Best choice would possibly be benzebaini. best age, scores goals, good in the air. can be useful as an alonso replacement.

https://www.transfermarkt.de/spieler-statistik/wertvollstespieler/marktwertetop/mw/spielerposition_id/4
 

1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

We are going to be fleeced from other clubs. If the tear is grade 1 I say recall Maatsen. 

lol yeah but clubs always try to fleece us, nothing new.

Just now, NikkiCFC said:

In the market in case Chilwell is back in March? No chance.

We have many options. Alonso is great LWB. And now for me best options after him are CHO/Pulisic for that role. In majority of games we have like 65-70% possession and in our system wing backs are more important in attack.

Wing backs really dont have much job to do defensively for us... And we have behind 3 world class CBs and best GK in the world. My major concern is will players who replace Ben deliver in attack not that bothered about defensive part because we are so good. Also zero issues with CHO/Puli being right footed. Look at Cancelo, best LB in the world this season. Emerson/Kenedy/Maatsen and Azpi as 3rd and 4th possible option. We will be fine.

I respect your opinion but have to strongly disagree. For me Alonso is a poor player and catastrophic athlete who shold not be playing at this level with a deceiving purple patch every blue moon. As you say, his main weaknesses dont get exploitedin matches vs shit teams parking the bus but in PL there are a ton of matches against fast attackers who will be licking their teeth. Alonso will get absolutely roasted by ManUre on Sunday if he plays. I think the loss of Chilwell is the biggest challenge to our title bid this season. Cant see us winning the league or CL with Azpi or Alonso. Could possibly live with CHO there.

[Tomo 21,751]

7 minutes ago, Jase said:

Is this a serious post or not? 

Well on the assumption Azpi is going we will need some cover/competition on that side.

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Tomo said:

Well on the assumption Azpi is going we will need some cover/competition on that side.

But the signs are that he will sign an extension.

Even if he doesn't do so, not sure if Livramento would be content with rotating with James for the RWB spot. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

 

I'd rather just recall Maatsen as he already understands the system. Not to mention players that jump from the Championship to the Premier league in recent history have shown to adapt far quicker than those abroad. 

Castagne at Leicester has failed to make any sort of impact as he did with Atalanta. 

[Superblue 6,372]

With an ACL is the absolute minimum 3 months? Is it possible that a minor tear or even a sprain of some sorts can be a few weeks?

Matt Law hasn't even confirmed it to be an ACL injury yet it's still a suspected one, which makes me wonder still whether it's quite as bad as feared. Hopefully with no surgery required it's something that can see him back for the business end of the season.

I think Alonso can do a job in his absence it's just his lack of athleticism which hinders him. Chilwell and James' ability and desire to get up and down the pitch regularly and at pace has added a new dimension to our attack in recent weeks. 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I'd rather just recall Maatsen as he already understands the system. Not to mention players that jump from the Championship to the Premier league in recent history have shown to adapt far quicker than those abroad. 

Castagne at Leicester has failed to make any sort of impact as he did with Atalanta. 

I am not against the idea but we both now that recalling Maatsen is never gonna happen.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

I am not against the idea but we both now that recalling Maatsen is never gonna happen.

We recalled Ake when forced to didn't we? 

[Superblue 6,372]

1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

I am not against the idea but we both now that recalling Maatsen is never gonna happen.

It's not beyond the realms of possibility.

I don't think anyone expected Chalobah to come back and break through in the summer, and similarly that RLC would have earned as many minutes as he has so far this season.

Tuchel has shown that if you're good enough and suit his system, he'll play the player and not the name.

[Jase 43,479]

3 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

With an ACL is the absolute minimum 3 months? Is it possible that a minor tear or even a sprain of some sorts can be a few weeks?

Matt Law hasn't even confirmed it to be an ACL injury yet it's still a suspected one, which makes me wonder still whether it's quite as bad as feared. Hopefully with no surgery required it's something that can see him back for the business end of the season.

Both Telegraph and Guardian have so far stated it as ACL damage as opposed to tear. If we're looking at silver linings, that is good and hopefully it's not worse. *touch wood*

[Superblue 6,372]

7 minutes ago, Jase said:

Both Telegraph and Guardian have so far stated it as ACL damage as opposed to tear. If we're looking at silver linings, that is good and hopefully it's not worse. *touch wood*

Yes fingers crossed with this.

If it's say a few weeks through to the end of the year or into January it's not ideal given the volume of games to come but it becomes far more of a manageable situation.

Anything that becomes months or end of the season I feel will need to be addressed as a priority in January.

[King Kante 1,643]

Not great news. However, Alonso isn't as bad as some are making out. Will he get roasted at times against really fast players? Yes, he will. However, is he still a good option against 80% of teams? Yes, he is. 

In my opinion, let's just get on and roll with Alonso and Saul until Jan and then look to whether we need Matasen back as cover. 

No way do we need to go out and blow €70m on a LWB; unless of course Chilwell's ACL is so bad he may not play again. 

[Blue Armour 4,439]

46 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Not great news. However, Alonso isn't as bad as some are making out. Will he get roasted at times against really fast players? Yes, he will. However, is he still a good option against 80% of teams? Yes, he is. 

In my opinion, let's just get on and roll with Alonso and Saul until Jan and then look to whether we need Matasen back as cover. 

No way do we need to go out and blow €70m on a LWB; unless of course Chilwell's ACL is so bad he may not play again. 

True. I'm also hoping for Chillwell to make it back sooner rather than later., but don't understand the shade being thrown Alonsos way. 

Did we not win a PL title with him as the main left wing back? Plus he's started this season brightly.

If we were stuck with Emerson..that would suck IMO.

[Clockwork 1,794]

46 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Not great news. However, Alonso isn't as bad as some are making out. Will he get roasted at times against really fast players? Yes, he will. However, is he still a good option against 80% of teams? Yes, he is. 

In my opinion, let's just get on and roll with Alonso and Saul until Jan and then look to whether we need Matasen back as cover. 

No way do we need to go out and blow €70m on a LWB; unless of course Chilwell's ACL is so bad he may not play again. 

Alonso doesn’t bring anywhere the energy or pressing Chily brings, it adversely effects our entire play. It is just not the 1vs1. It is a big problem.

[Stats 7,142]

The biggest compliment I can give him is that when he joined, I think there was a huge fanbase who was so against the signing. I was one of a few, I say gladly now who was delighted about the signing. He was ridiculed by a lot of people who thought it was waste of money and were angry money was not spent on Reguilon. Well he has proved a fantastic signing and has proved the majority wrong. He will be missed for sure!