NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said: Stated it before, with who we currently have I am not a fan of the 4231. Just a game of possession against the opposition. No directness. Pulisic for CHO and Havertz for RLC and it would be completely different. Azul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Just now, NikkiCFC said: Pulisic for CHO and Havertz for RLC and it would be completely different. Maybe. But for me, Kovacic+Kante is the problem. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Stated it before, with who we currently have I am not a fan of the 4231. Just a game of possession against the opposition. No directness. The defence from left to right are ridiculously safe with their passes. Once kova pulls back and picks the ball up we get vertical passing. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Ziyech is not only skilled but he's a workhorse as well. Dutch pundits kept mentioning it when he was playing at Ajax and it shows right now. DDA and Vesper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said: The defence from left to right are ridiculously safe with their passes. Once kova pulls back and picks the ball up we get vertical passing. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk It's the lack of channels that are created in a 4231 compared to a 433. So many times the midfield recycled back to the defence instead of transitioning the ball. Lost track the amount of times Werner had to check down to midfield to help with transition. This shouldn't be an issue against bloody Brighton... 0007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Ziyech is not only skilled but he's a workhorse as well. Dutch pundits kept mentioning it when he was playing at Ajax and it shows right now.Was just gonna say Ziyech and Werner are a cut above the rest when it comes to pressing Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Azul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Valdo 583 Posted August 29, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted August 29, 2020 I have a feeling Ruben just never will get to the form we want him to be MoroccanBlue, Supermonkey92, kellzfresh and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Supermonkey92 said: Was just gonna say Ziyech and Werner are a cut above the rest when it comes to pressing Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Ziyech's pressing is as good as you are ever gonna get from an attacking player. One of his strengths no doubt Azul and killer1257 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 It's the lack of channels that are created in a 4231 compared to a 433. So many times the midfield recycled back to the defence instead of transitioning the ball. Lost track the amount of times Werner had to check down to midfield to help with transition. This shouldn't be an issue against bloody Brighton...No I disagree because Kante moves around more when we have the ball and kovacic comes deep between the cbs almost as a dm anyway, the pivot isn't static. The fullbacks in particular struggle when the get the ball to feet and are under pressure. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Ziyech has looked great. Our possession has been very good. Vesper and killer1257 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 I can see why clubs are so in want of Ben White ZAPHOD2319 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 Werner and Ziyech have looked very good. Defending mostly solid after the opening 10 minutes. Lots of possession but little penetration, which feels rather familiar... 0007 and Supermonkey92 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Ziyech and Kante have been amazing Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Valdo said: I have a feeling Ruben just never will get to the form we want him to be He's on last chance saloon especially with Gallagher looking good. Vesper and ZAPHOD2319 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 If anyone fancy's half time laugh Spurs have charged their fans £10 to watch the pre season friendly Vs Birmingham. Just when you think Levy couldn't get even more ridiculous... DDA and Vesper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Tomo said: He's on last chance saloon especially with Gallagher looking good. To think we just gave Loftus-Cheek a new long term contract last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Ziyech and Kante have been amazing Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit TapatalkKante has looked good Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Odoi looks a shadow of his former self. Sad to see man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 decent half. defense has been rock solid so far but hardly tested. i loved ziyechs crossfield balls and werners linkup play. RLC still has not shaken off the injury. I fear he is done as an elite player if he does not regain his burst of pace. killer1257 and kellzfresh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Ziyech and Werner quality as expected. The rest looked somewhat rusty but we'll get there. Ziyech on set pieces all year is gonna be beautiful ZAPHOD2319, Supermonkey92 and kellzfresh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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