Sergio Reguilón

[Vesper 30,081]

1 minute ago, Puliiszola said:

Alonso made the TOTY playing as LWB, do undersrand the difference between a LWB and LB? What the roles entail? For someone giving away certifications on football knowledge, I would have thought that would be the bare minimum.

Yes, Milner is right footed and yes he is old, yet he did what the primary job was - defend. I watched him this season against Watford and against Everton (the draw after restart), and yes kimited, like azpi becomes when playing as LB, but saying he was poor has got to be a total and complete exageration which is not really unknown for someone like you. 

nice try

I listed LWB

your arguments are simply wrong and invalid

you do not know football very well, and you are extremely opinionated and combative with other posters

bad combo

[King Kante 1,643]

54 minutes ago, Vesper said:

this is madness

do you even realise that Milner is right footed, nearing 35, and was shit as a LB, was only forced to lay there as they literally had no other options

smdh

and you have the jacobs to ridicule and mock @King Kante??

lol

 

 

Do I need to? I think the poster in question is digging enough of a grave without any help. 

[Vesper 30,081]

2 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Do I need to? I think the poster in question is digging enough of a grave without any help. 

you are fine, you were just the latest one they were attacking and ridiculing

cheers

[Puliiszola 519]

4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

nice try

I listed LWB

your arguments are simply wrong and invalid

you do not know football very well, and you are extremely opinionated and combative with other posters

bad combo

You might as well list him as a ST, would make 0 sense when the whole argument is about alonso as a LB. Either read what is being written and said or simply don't post. 

Lol. Someone who can't admit they are wrong despite several people saying "no it's not a hand ball" (our first interaction) or when people explain how amortization works (bakayoko thread) is telling others regarding their football knowledge and giving away character certificates too now. Lol. But no thanks.

[Vesper 30,081]

Just now, Puliiszola said:

You might as well list him as a ST, would make 0 sense when the whole argument is about alonso as a LB. Either read what is being written and said or simply don't post. 

Lol. Someone who can't admit they are wrong despite several people saying "no it's not a hand ball" (our first interaction) or when people explain how amortization works (bakayoko thread) is telling others regarding their football knowledge and giving away character certificates too now. Lol. But no thanks.

I think Alonso is fine as a backup and 'change of pace' LB (now speaking solely of LB, not LWB)

Are there others who would be better? Yes, but we are probably not going to buy two LB's in the same window, especially as we will get shit money for either Emerson or Alonso due to the COVID-19 influenced market, and the fact we have other holes to fill in first

Maybe we do surprise and do buy 2, but I cannot hang my hat nor my hopes on that, and between the two (Emerson and Alonso) Alonso is clearly the better player, despite his limitations.

Emerson, other than a few, far too often widely-distanced games, has been a flop overall, same as most of the LB's we have purchased since Ash left

[Puliiszola 519]

7 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I think Alonso is fine as a backup and 'change of pace' LB (now speaking solely of LB, not LWB)

Are there others who would be better? Yes, but we are probably not going to buy two LB's in the same window, especially as we will get shit money for either Emerson or Alonso due to the COVID-19 influenced market, and the fact we have other holes to fill in first

Maybe we do surprise and do buy 2, but I cannot hang my hat nor my hopes on that, and between the two (Emerson and Alonso) Alonso is clearly the better player, despite his limitations.

Emerson, other than a few, far too often widely-distanced games, has been a flop overall, same as most of the LB's we have purchased since Ash left

Fair enough.

There is no doubt between alonso and emerson. 

My only disagreement would be with the first line. Like I said to Tomo, it seems most people on here rate alonso far more than I do. I think he is really poor, and very honestly speaking, would not get in many PL teams who are playing with a back 4. I will understand if he stays as a back up as we could not find a buyer, but hard to accept that FL and our board look at him and say "good enough". I mean in case of an injury to our first choice lB, I can bet azpi starts as many games as LB as alonso does or we just move to a back 3 again. That would be my prediction.

[Vesper 30,081]

Just now, Puliiszola said:

I think he is really poor, and very honestly speaking, would not get in many PL teams who are playing with a back 4. 

let's look at this

bold are ones he would most likely start at

it is hard to say on many becuase we do not know transfers in, so this is based off last year

bold red are the only ones he CLEARLY would not be the starter at regardless of formation

Arsenal   if Tierney was played as a LCB, Alonso would start as the LWB
Aston Villa   
Brighton & Hove Albion   
Burnley    
Chelsea   
Crystal Palace   
Everton   
Fulham   
Leeds United   
Leicester City   
Liverpool  
Manchester City  Pep hates his left backs, so much so that Cancelo was played out of position, but not sure if he could deal with Alonso's lack of pace 
Manchester United  hard to say, as Luke Shaw is shit, and Williams is playing of position (he is right footed)
Newcastle United 
Sheffield United   
Southampton    
Tottenham Hotspur   50/50, as Ben Davies is pretty shit, hard to say what Mou would think of Alonso
West Bromwich Albion   
West Ham United  
Wolverhampton Wanderers   they only play a 3 4 3 or 3 5 2 so he would deffo be in the mix as a LWB

12 teams (including us) for sure, as it stands, he would be the starter

plus 5 can be listed as who knows (I listed the reasons)

plus he would have been the starter on

Watford 
Bournemouth    
Norwich City    

so only 3 for sure (out of 23 total) where he almost never would be the starter, barring injury, 4 if Arsenal gets a left CB to replace Tierney, there, or if they play a back 4, as Tierney is a better LB than Alonso, Shitty is arguably the 5th, but Pep is too unpredictable and too unhappy with his current LB's to say 100%, the other 3 (Wolves, Spuds and Manure) are also too iffy to say 100%

15 out of 23 for sure we would and have, or will be be (if he was there) the starter, and it is somewhat possible that number is 18 or 19 or so

 

consider your point refuted
 

[Puliiszola 519]

52 minutes ago, Vesper said:

let's look at this

bold are ones he would most likely start at

it is hard to say on many becuase we do not know transfers in, so this is based off last year

bold red are the only ones he CLEARLY would not be the starter at regardless of formation

Arsenal   if Tierney was played as a LCB, Alonso would start as the LWB
Aston Villa   
Brighton & Hove Albion   
Burnley    
Chelsea   
Crystal Palace   
Everton   
Fulham   
Leeds United   
Leicester City   
Liverpool  
Manchester City  Pep hates his left backs, so much so that Cancelo was played out of position, but not sure if he could deal with Alonso's lack of pace 
Manchester United  hard to say, as Luke Shaw is shit, and Williams is playing of position (he is right footed)
Newcastle United 
Sheffield United   
Southampton    
Tottenham Hotspur   50/50, as Ben Davies is pretty shit, hard to say what Mou would think of Alonso
West Bromwich Albion   
West Ham United  
Wolverhampton Wanderers   they only play a 3 4 3 or 3 5 2 so he would deffo be in the mix as a LWB

12 teams (including us) for sure, as it stands, he would be the starter

plus 5 can be listed as who knows (I listed the reasons)

plus he would have been the starter on

Watford 
Bournemouth    
Norwich City    

so only 3 for sure (out of 23 total) where he almost never would be the starter, barring injury, 4 if Arsenal gets a left CB to replace Tierney, there, or if they play a back 4, as Tierney is a better LB than Alonso, Shitty is arguably the 5th, but Pep is too unpredictable and too unhappy with his current LB's to say 100%, the other 3 (Wolves, Spuds and Manure) are also too iffy to say 100%

15 out of 23 for sure we would and have, or will be be (if he was there) the starter, and it is somewhat possible that number is 18 or 19 or so

 

consider your point refuted
 

Lol. What is this based on? Why would alonso start as a LWB for arsenal ahead of Maitland niles?

Whu? He is a better than Creswell. Lol.

Soton - better than Bertrand - lol

Spurs - better than Davies and/or rose - lol. 

Wolves - better than Doherty? Lol

United - better than Williams or Shaw - lol.

City - better than Mendy? Lololol

Newcastle - Ritchie, solid option. As a LB, better than alonso

Shu - ahead of Stevens? Really?

Norwich - jamal Lewis - really talented and a better lb than alonso

Bournemouth - Rico, another decent option. No way an open and shut case.

Burnley - Pieters? Seriously? And that too in the Burnley system. Got to be shitting. 

Consider your point not even taken seriously.

That's like someone drawing up a list of strikers and baselessly claiming that michy is better than most and would start for majority of PL clubs.. 😂😂

Ps - even here, our own manager has 0 confidence playing him as LB and has recently started azpi in the position. So can't even say he is a starting LB at Chelsea lol 15/23

Anyways, let's just end this discussion here itself. It's simply a massive difference of opinion. For you alonso is a better LB than Cresswell and for me, that's unthinkable. Don't think any of us will be able to change the other's mind, so no point in more back and forths. Let's just agree to disagree 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,798]

 

[Jase 43,479]

13 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Spanish media - CHELSEA WANT REGUILON!

English media - CHELSEA WANT CHILWELL!

(the latter does seem more likely to happen...)

[Pulisicismydaddy 91]

We need this guy so much, Reguilon and Thiago for less than 30 mil would be incredible.

[Liuxas 124]

I'm so confused. So we are after reguilon or chilwell?  Because seems like we buying Chilwell by recent reports if they reliable of course.