Mikel John Obi

[Toli 977]

"shielding the ball" doesnt offers anything attacking-wise. he is really good at HOLDING THE BALL but not PASSING it. also he has played DM for years..it aint like it is his first season. also i didnt hear him complain about this position. he could've evolved in this position, he has the potentital for it. he has a great body, he can shield a ball, he can dribble decent. he should've improved his passing skills and his tactical knowledge- he didnt. that is primarly HIS fault. also we had Lampard playing as an AMF, so there was no place at all for mikel at this position. and mata/Hazard/oscar are miles ahead of him and will ever bei n this position. he is too slow and to limited to play in this position.

also players like Hazard and Mata are geniuses...they can change the game within a minute. mikel isnt. thats why mata/hazard are getting freedom while he isnt. if he could score or would be a special player, surely there would have been more freedom given to him..but he isnt. he is decent, but nothing lethal for our team.

in terms of nigeria- well people do see, that he is playing against teams like Burkina Faso or Mali or whatever?! he is playing against player whou wouldnt even suceed in the Championship League.

[The Skipper 20,593]

"shielding the ball" doesnt offers anything attacking-wise. he is really good at HOLDING THE BALL but not PASSING it. also he has played DM for years..it aint like it is his first season. also i didnt hear him complain about this position. he could've evolved in this position, he has the potentital for it. he has a great body, he can shield a ball, he can dribble decent. he should've improved his passing skills and his tactical knowledge- he didnt. that is primarly HIS fault. also we had Lampard playing as an AMF, so there was no place at all for mikel at this position. and mata/Hazard/oscar are miles ahead of him and will ever bei n this position. he is too slow and to limited to play in this position.

also players like Hazard and Mata are geniuses...they can change the game within a minute. mikel isnt. thats why mata/hazard are getting freedom while he isnt. if he could score or would be a special player, surely there would have been more freedom given to him..but he isnt. he is decent, but nothing lethal for our team.

in terms of nigeria- well people do see, that he is playing against teams like Burkina Faso or Mali or whatever?! he is playing against player whou wouldnt even suceed in the Championship League.

Carlo Ancelotti said, "I have a lot of trust in Mikel, I think he can be the playmaker of this team. He is a young player, but has great quality, both technical and tactical".

Mikel has a great pass on him, he's got good range and if he's allowed to he can orgastrate things but he needs to be given the licence to do so. At Chelsea we just don't utilise that - hence why I believe he's been misused as the anchorman of the team.

Just yesterday, Mikel showed a flash of brilliance to level the game against Uruguay a very decent team with some great players - not your Burkina Faso's or Mali's, and absolutely ran the show - yesterday just served as a reminder to what Mikel can do when he's the main brain of the team. Obviously that's not going to happen at CFC when we have Mata and Hazard and even Oscar coming through - Mikel can be an important player in build up play but he's been limited far too much despite that.

Like I said before it'll be interesting to see what Jose does with Mikel as after all, he was initially his project. I still don't think he'll be sold - if anything Mikel is at least a good squad player.

[Manuf 1,448]

it's funny how people say "give Luiz time to develop under Mou, he'll be great" and go like "Mikel wasted his potential".

they have the same age...

[EdenHazard 163]

Loved this goal... Boy can he celebrate!

[Toli 977]

Carlo Ancelotti said, "I have a lot of trust in Mikel, I think he can be the playmaker of this team. He is a young player, but has great quality, both technical and tactical".

Mikel has a great pass on him, he's got good range and if he's allowed to he can orgastrate things but he needs to be given the licence to do so. At Chelsea we just don't utilise that - hence why I believe he's been misused as the anchorman of the team.

Just yesterday, Mikel showed a flash of brilliance to level the game against Uruguay a very decent team with some great players - not your Burkina Faso's or Mali's, and absolutely ran the show - yesterday just served as a reminder to what Mikel can do when he's the main brain of the team. Obviously that's not going to happen at CFC when we have Mata and Hazard and even Oscar coming through - Mikel can be an important player in build up play but he's been limited far too much despite that.

Like I said before it'll be interesting to see what Jose does with Mikel as after all, he was initially his project. I still don't think he'll be sold - if anything Mikel is at least a good squad player.

it aint like the coach is saying to him "please no dont play long-range balls and slow up the game"...he does it on his own. he is limiting HIMSELF. or do you think carlo, mou and all the other coaches did tell him to play 5 m passes at max? for sure not. it was a pain to see what he played against teams who parked the bus against us. he could not offer anything beside slowing every attack up and putting in 5 m passes.

and even staying behind and closing the holes etc he couldnt do well. he was exposed countless times and his positioning has been awful this season. he not only stagnated, he took 1-2 steps downhill.

Uruguay have been awful the whole tournament and even yesterday. thats not at all a sign that he is that good. and they looked tired as hell. also their midfield is mediocre. their best players are up front- cavani, suarez, falcao. and mikel did not have to deal with them.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/oct/03/mikel-john-obi-chelsea?INTCMP=SRCH

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/02/08/when-will-john-obi-mikel-get-the-credit-he-deserves/

Here are just two articles, making a point for Mikel.

[Joe Cool 388]

it's funny how people say "give Luiz time to develop under Mou, he'll be great" and go like "Mikel wasted his potential".

they have the same age...

Well that's because Luiz was showing excellent performances consistently throughout this year and has been by far our best CB while Mikel showed absolutely atrocious performances this year, not mention him talking shite about the Europa League before following that statement up with an absolutely disgraceful display at Kazan.

Mikel and Luiz' attitudes are polar opposite. One has heart and gives 110%, despite a lapse in concentration here and there, while the other has a history of being a stroppy cunt.

If 10 mil is the best that we can get for him (and it doesn't even appear to be true), then we might as well keep him around for some depth and cover in central midfield.

[The Skipper 20,593]

it aint like the coach is saying to him "please no dont play long-range balls and slow up the game"...he does it on his own. he is limiting HIMSELF. or do you think carlo, mou and all the other coaches did tell him to play 5 m passes at max? for sure not. it was a pain to see what he played against teams who parked the bus against us. he could not offer anything beside slowing every attack up and putting in 5 m passes.

Uruguay have been awful the whole tournament and even yesterday. thats not at all a sign that he is that good. and they looked tired as hell. also their midfield is mediocre. their best players are up front- cavani, suarez, falcao. and mikel did not have to deal with them.

If I actually remember correctly Mikel played around 12 games under Mourinho as our DM. In the other games he played whilst Mourinho was here Makelele played at DM whilst he was deployed a little further up the pitch.

Mikel played a lot more adventurous under Ancelotti in his first season as Ancelotti encouraged him to do so and our tactical system allowed us to do so. They believed in the kid - him and Ray Wilkins: "John can basically become whatever he wants," Ray Wilkins, Chelsea's assistant manager, says. "He's got a lovely range of passing, is strong as an ox and reads the game exceptionally well. Myself and Carlo have just asked him to hit a few more progressive passes." Here are two assists just as a reminder that he was given that extra bit of freedom in the double winning season:

At the start:

At around 1m40:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcpe90

What I do agree with is that he somewhat limits himself but then again, his current role in the team is not to be the playmaker like he is in Nigeria but to rather be the one who keeps the ball flowing whilst our more forward thinking players set themselves up which is why I say he's been misused as he can offer a lot more but again, it's naive to think that Mikel can't offer anything but 5m passes or slowing down the attack. I'm sorry to keep on harping about his national team performances but in my opinion he shows his true colours for Nigeria. Albeit usually being against poorer opposition, he looks a completely different player because he's got a different mentality and role that exploits his true talents. He's been Nigeria's playmaker during their recent run of success... His touch was superb yesterday, his passing range was great, his ability to escape pressure is excellent and he beat his man repeatedly. Uruguay haven't been at their best in the tournament but to simply dismiss his performance yesterday because of that and to simply think that their midfield is mediocre (a big, big hyperbole) when they are one of the better national teams around is laughable in my opinion. Yeah Uruguay's best players are up front but their midfield is not mediocre. Mikel played well yesterday against a good national team whether you like it or not.

My point is that I believe under Mourinho who will motivate the lad and perhaps give him a more expansive licence - he'll offer a lot more in attack than he has for the last 2 seasons. I would keep him around - after all the lad is only 26, was initially Mourinho's project and isn't on monstrous wages. As I've said before, he can at the very least be a good squad player.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Mikel and Luiz' attitudes are polar opposite. One has heart and gives 110%, despite a lapse in concentration here and there, while the other has a history of being a stroppy cunt.

Fantastic point. People have been saying that Luiz's heart is worth more than the prices being banded around for him and that's a great point, yet it's something that even Mikel's staunchest supporters can't really defend.

I had doubts about him for much of last season, but that performance away to Rubin Kazan was an absolute disgrace and I think even Bosingwa would've felt shame picking up a paycheque after that game. It's not surprising because he was like that as a 19 year old, but just looking at people like Chalobah, Ake and Lukaku to see the difference in their mentalities. They respect the shirt EVERY TIME they put it on.

[The Skipper 20,593]

it's funny how people say "give Luiz time to develop under Mou, he'll be great" and go like "Mikel wasted his potential".

they have the same age...

Because Mikel's stagnated whilst Luiz is improving.

The only thing we can hope for is that Mikel will pick up next season under Jose.

[The Skipper 20,593]

They respect the shirt EVERY TIME they put it on.

In a way, I agree with you. For Nigeria, you can see Mikel plays with a lot of heart, maybe because there he has the platform to express himself. At Chelsea though it isn't the same.

[nachikethas 1,149]

Fantastic point. People have been saying that Luiz's heart is worth more than the prices being banded around for him and that's a great point, yet it's something that even Mikel's staunchest supporters can't really defend.

I had doubts about him for much of last season, but that performance away to Rubin Kazan was an absolute disgrace and I think even Bosingwa would've felt shame picking up a paycheque after that game. It's not surprising because he was like that as a 19 year old, but just looking at people like Chalobah, Ake and Lukaku to see the difference in their mentalities. They respect the shirt EVERY TIME they put it on.

john terry gives his respect bye stabbing barca player on one of the biggest night for our club.

keep posting pics of Chelsea and calling everyone geezer on twitter doesn't only make one a truly passionate. I have seen him performing very good in lot of occasions also performing badly. So do i have seen lamps

[nachikethas 1,149]

Nothing against luiz but really doubt how many of us will say luiz gives his heart for Chelsea if there is no social media and give performance like against Manu in 2011 at old Trafford

[bleed_blue 136]

The apologists are out in full force today.

You can keep saying whatever made up stuff you want, come next season, Mourinho is going to relegate him to bench and Choulo19 and co will cry a river.

[Manuf 1,448]

Well that's because Luiz was showing excellent performances consistently throughout this year and has been by far our best CB while Mikel showed absolutely atrocious performances this year, not mention him talking shite about the Europa League before following that statement up with an absolutely disgraceful display at Kazan.

Mikel and Luiz' attitudes are polar opposite. One has heart and gives 110%, despite a lapse in concentration here and there, while the other has a history of being a stroppy cunt.

If 10 mil is the best that we can get for him (and it doesn't even appear to be true), then we might as well keep him around for some depth and cover in central midfield.

give me quotes. what i remember is him saying it's frustrating to play in Europa League and that he wants to play in CL again. he said he didn't rate it and wanted higher goals.

if you want to see the heart from Mikel go and watch that CL campaign a year ago.

majority of our fans are like leaves, one bad season and they would throw everything out of the window.

[Joe Cool 388]

give me quotes. what i remember is him saying it's frustrating to play in Europa League and that he wants to play in CL again. ​he said he didn't rate it and wanted higher goals.

Exactly. He said he didn't rate it. He dismissed it and then he proceeded to get run over by Kazan in that very competition with a shambolic and lazy display. The fact that he was dying to get his mitts on the trophy (ala Bosingwa) when he had fuck all to do with the winning of it was a fucking joke.

if you want to see the heart from Mikel go and watch that CL campaign a year ago.

Of course he's going to show heart in the CL campaign. Who wouldn't? But I can also give you plenty of games where he trotted around the pitch with no real urgency. That's the problem. He doesn't give it his all in every single match, which is not the type of attitude I want to see from a Chelsea player. You can have all the skill you want, but when you lack the proper mindset, then just forget about it.

majority of our fans are like leaves, one bad season and they would throw everything out of the window.

No, I am basing my statements on what I have seen from him ever since we signed him in 2006, not just one season.

[Phil Driver 503]

john terry gives his respect bye stabbing barca player on one of the biggest night for our club.

keep posting pics of Chelsea and calling everyone geezer on twitter doesn't only make one a truly passionate. I have seen him performing very good in lot of occasions also performing badly. So do i have seen lamps

RUBBISH

Please do not bring Chelsea legends and world class players into an argument involving Mikel .

[Phil Driver 503]

Mikel is on his way out ,all will be revealed soon ,Mourinho is not stupid .................................watch this space ,he is a merchant banker ,even the waiter dropped him.