🇳🇬 Mikel John Obi

[nachikethas 1,154]

chelsea made the complaint our player gets banned

[gary gordon 1,777]

Not fazed by the suspension to be honest. Lamps will be back soon and nobody hits the target from outside the box like him. he needs a break any way

[CHOULO19 24,332]

and clattencunt walks free???

Yep. There's the FA for you, bunch of

[The only place to be 11,313]

and clattencunt walks free???

Well he hasn't been found guilty of anything, so um yeah

This Mikel ban is on the light end of the scale for threatening a ref. Anyone moaning about it really needs to get some perspective. We were fucking lucky this time.

[Backstreet09 499]

Should have been banned for LIFE Just kidding , tho it has came as blessing in disguise . Romeu will get more playing time and Rafa mighty try something new in the double pivot

[didierforever 7,349]

Well he hasn't been found guilty of anything, so um yeah

This Mikel ban is on the light end of the scale for threatening a ref. Anyone moaning about it really needs to get some perspective. We were fucking lucky this time.

dude, mikel was going to face something or the other even if clattencunt was found guilty. u cant threaten a ref but our players and the club is not that stupid to go into the ref's locker and threaten him because he gave a couple of bad decisions. clattencunt had to have said something of the magnitude which made mikel do what he did. thats y it just hurts that our player gets a ban and the real bastard walks scott free.

[Kieran. 6,317]

It's a fucking shame, but honestly it's probably a blessing in disguise. Romeu will get starts before Mikel goes to ACoN. Also, I think Romeu can take his chance and steal the starting spot.

[The only place to be 11,313]

dude, mikel was going to face something or the other even if clattencunt was found guilty. u cant threaten a ref but our players and the club is not that stupid to go into the ref's locker and threaten him because he gave a couple of bad decisions. clattencunt had to have said something of the magnitude which made mikel do what he did. thats y it just hurts that our player gets a ban and the real bastard walks scott free.

He 'had to have said something' did he? You don't know that for fucks sake.

Players can't do what Mikel did and he's fucking lucky to have just got three games if we're being totally honest.

As for Clattenburg, the authorities found he had no case to answer and the club accepted that. Keeping on implying that he did say something when you've got absolutely no proof is just stupid.

[didierforever 7,349]

He 'had to have said something' did he? You don't know that for fucks sake.

Players can't do what Mikel did and he's fucking lucky to have just got three games if we're being totally honest.

As for Clattenburg, the authorities found he had no case to answer and the club accepted that. Keeping on implying that he did say something when you've got absolutely no proof is just stupid.

so our players and club are so stupid and vengeful towards a ref who cost us one game that

a) we threaten him after the match going into the ref's locker room.

b.)making it completely public by not only saying it to the press but also lodgging an official complaint to FA.

i know sometimes that we should not read much in between the lines but we should not be so naive that it borders to being plain idiotic and stupid.

there are many cases in which the "guilty" guy walks without much harm but that does not mean he is totally innocent. infact do u actually believe that clattenburg dint say anythin and that our players just thought "we got scrwed by jim today so lets go and screw his life". well if u do then well u should not call other people stupod for fuck's sake.

[The only place to be 11,313]

so our players and club are so stupid and vengeful towards a ref who cost us one game that

a) we threaten him after the match going into the ref's locker room.

b.)making it completely public by not only saying it to the press but also lodgging an official complaint to FA.

i know sometimes that we should not read much in between the lines but we should not be so naive that it borders to being plain idiotic and stupid.

there are many cases in which the "guilty" guy walks without much harm but that does not mean he is totally innocent. infact do u actually believe that clattenburg dint say anythin and that our players just thought "we got scrwed by jim today so lets go and screw his life". well if u do then well u should not call other people stupod for fuck's sake.

You do realise that Mikel didn't contest the charge don't you?

As for the Clattenburg incident, we may never know what exactly was said but we know what could be proven and that's really all that matters. You have absolutely no evidence to suggest Clattenburg did anything wrong. What Mikel did, regardless of the extenuating circumstances, was wrong. You can't go and confront refs in their rooms after matches. It's one of the most important things in the game in my opinion and any player doing so should be punished heavily.

Three games was light. As for the options you mentioned, you left out the idea that Ramires misunderstood something Clattenburg said to Mikel.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

^^

Can we please drop it. It's a crisis that has finally passed, do we have to relive it?

[Laylabelle 9,535]

Hopfully this is the end of it all now...that is until Clattenburg is a ref in one of our games and its all dragged back up again....

[Kez 2,727]

You simply can't storm into the referees dressing room shouting the odds without knowing facts. This ban is totally deserved and he's lucky it's only 3 games. Now lets move on from this farce, caused us nothing but problems.

[Blue Armour 4,439]

That's complete nonsense, really...

So for you 'Macazar' has to be feeded by Mikel who has to get past the midfield line on 20 yards to give the ball in hands ? Because "it doesn't takes away a body upfront" that's dumb.

There's absolutely no relation with Benitez's change that is a good thing. The instruction is to protect the full backs to imrove the defensive positioning (there's slight improvement in terms of how to cope with the given defensive situations). The CONSEQUENCE is that we attack via fast break, that highlights several things:

• With defensive duties to fulfil, Hazard/Mata can't appear that bright attacking
  
• There's more ground to cover before going into dangerous positions
  

We've a knackered team, so obsiously the tiredness and it's impact is put under the spotlight on fast break situations and some transitions (such as the game vs Fulham).

There's improvement to do in terms of defending the situations (that's still a bit of last season when we still conceded a lot of chances). But the current better positinoning allows the DP to pick 2nd balls on crosses and find quicker the wing players

Is Mikel the white Lampard ? Vidal inserts and shots in Lampard's zone. There's much more of an issue there as that's precisely the situation where one of the two players of the double pivot has to come out on the holder.

Yes that sounds pretty dumb, and no that still isn't what I was talking about.

I didn't ask Mikel to go anywhere. I just want him to stop pondering on the ball during the buildup. When he ponders on the ball the attackers are forced to track back. I don't want them to track back, I want them to stay forward, and Mikel to pass to them when they come into a decent position. That way the shape of the attack doesn't change.

Is Mikel the white Lampard ?

I don't understand you're saying here..But anyway, you're saying Vidal was playing the box-to-box role Lampard plays in? Yes that was obvious from the highlights, and I know he does play that role. Ramires went into the box marking another attacker...There are two unmarked attackers (including Vidal) arriving into the box...What does Mikel do? He just jogs back, ball-watching and not paying attention to Vidal.. When the opposition is in my third of the pitch, I would expect my players to be more aware of their surroundings and make all possible attempts to stop the attack..and Mikel did not do that in that instance.

[didierforever 7,349]

You do realise that Mikel didn't contest the charge don't you?

As for the Clattenburg incident, we may never know what exactly was said but we know what could be proven and that's really all that matters. You have absolutely no evidence to suggest Clattenburg did anything wrong. What Mikel did, regardless of the extenuating circumstances, was wrong. You can't go and confront refs in their rooms after matches. It's one of the most important things in the game in my opinion and any player doing so should be punished heavily.

Three games was light. As for the options you mentioned, you left out the idea that Ramires misunderstood something Clattenburg said to Mikel.

dude y do u keep saying the same things over and over again. i have already accepted that mikel should have been banned and even if clattenburg was proved guilty, mikel still would have got a ban.

so tell me y would mikel contest the ban?

as for the evidence argument, well i have said this in my last 2 posts, lets use our common sense more than what the FA has proven or not proven.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Yes that sounds pretty dumb, and no that still isn't what I was talking about.

I didn't ask Mikel to go anywhere. I just want him to stop pondering on the ball during the buildup. When he ponders on the ball the attackers are forced to track back. I don't want them to track back, I want them to stay forward, and Mikel to pass to them when they come into a decent position. That way the shape of the attack doesn't change.

I don't understand you're saying here..But anyway, you're saying Vidal was playing the box-to-box role Lampard plays in? Yes that was obvious from the highlights, and I know he does play that role. Ramires went into the box marking another attacker...There are two unmarked attackers (including Vidal) arriving into the box...What does Mikel do? He just jogs back, ball-watching and not paying attention to Vidal.. When the opposition is in my third of the pitch, I would expect my players to be more aware of their surroundings and make all possible attempts to stop the attack..and Mikel did not do that in that instance.

You can't really expect Mikel, or anyone in his position, to solely be responsible to get the ball forward.

All an opposition manager would have to do to counter that is to keep pressure on Mikel and blocking his lane of vision and that would completely nullify the front 4 as they would rarely get the ball.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Person A accuses Person B of a crime. The FA decide who they like better. Take the case this is person B. Then instead of investigating the case, they decide to punish Person A even though there was no charge against him and search for some evidence to ground that. Then they announce that verdict, no matter if it has anything to do with the case. Get that now. That's how justice works in English football. When the judicial site interacts with the indictment and the defense side directly. Saves time and money. Great stuff, guys.

[Blue Armour 4,439]

You can't really expect Mikel, or anyone in his position, to solely be responsible to get the ball forward.

All an opposition manager would have to do to counter that is to keep pressure on Mikel and blocking his lane of vision and that would completely nullify the front 4 as they would rarely get the ball.

I can agree with that. That is a good reason for our attackers to drop deep, although I still feel he lingers on the ball too much,.. waiting for the attackers to come very close to his position before he makes the pass.

[Blue Armour 4,439]

So you ask Mikel to find his team mates vertically something like 20 yards away ? First of all it requires an execllent execution, Mikel's accurate enough. But that's still not enough. The receiver of the pass would be back to goal, having to control a genuine cinderblock (only option to get past through opponents).

You want illustrations or examples ?

Here's one:

You want another one ? Wolves' couple of goalscoring chances in COC came after Romeu attempted creative stuff from the deep to players back to goal who had for only choice that to give the ball away, unaware of what happen in their back.

I'm speaking about Juve's first goal at Stamford Bridge. See Lampard escaping any criticism is just fantastic considering how Mikel was blamed for a so called mistake. But anyway we're used to

Nice illustrations, but I was referring to instances like in this picture:

For this particular example, there was no real problem as Ramires had moved forward when Hazard dropped deep. Thus the attacking shape was preserved. But there are instances where Mikel ponders with the ball too long, making the forward players drop back to make the pass Mikel could have made. This is detrimental in situations where we are on the back-foot/ chasing a game.

[Blue Armour 4,439]

Could you give me the video or something ? Or a broader image ? What minute is it (I've the game on mt PC) ?

The image is from the 58-59'th minute of the W-ham game.