Timo Werner

[Jase 43,479]

9 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

I think he should have started today. His pace would have troubled Maguire for sure, especially because we did not play as offensive as we used to, so he can focus more on making runs for counter attack. Giroud did not make any sense today. Giroud should only play if we want to play possession based football. Apart from that, play Tammy and/or Werner. Their pace is useful in these kind of games 

See my reply to you in the Ziyech thread. 

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

5 hours ago, Jason said:

Read the whole interview for context...

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/12230304/timo-werner-exclusive-goal-drought-period-at-Chelsea-was-worst-of-my-career-but-old-timo-is-coming-back

Lets be honest, even with that context, it is still not great and with what, 12 games left, surely someone of his calibre should easily be looking to score more than 4 or 5 goals considering we have to play teams like Leeds, West Brom, Palace, Brighton, Fulham and Villa in those games who are much much more inferior than we are. 

Also, if he reaches say 10 goals, lets look at it now, inferior players such as Callum Wilson and Ollie Watkins have 10 PL goals already. Patrick Bamford has 13 PL goals already. He is tied for PL goals with players like David McGoldrick and Bobby De Cordova-Reid... its not great company if your a 25m signing yet alone a 52m one. 

I suppose we should be more worried if he doesn’t get over 10 although he would be close/over 10 if he didn’t miss those big chances but with 12 PL games left, he seriously has to start scoring regularly or hes probably not even going to get to 10. I mean he scored 4 PL goals under Frank in half a season, going from November to what February without a goal and 1 in the PL with Tuchel, who has been in charge for 6 PL games. Its not exactly a guarantee so heres hoping he gets to 10 at least. Although he will still be heavily criticised and rightfully so based on the 4 or 5 big sitters hes missed and to do with the majority of his performances and price tag.   

[Jase 43,479]

5 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Lets be honest, even with that context, it is still not great and with what, 12 games left, surely someone of his calibre should easily be looking to score more than 4 or 5 goals considering we have to play teams like Leeds, West Brom, Palace, Brighton, Fulham and Villa in those games who are much much more inferior than we are. 

Of course his total now is bloody disappointing or if one were to just look at the overall come end of the season but the point here is the context of that interview. And we also don't know if he's going to play every remaining league game either, especially if we go deep in the Champions League and FA Cup.

5 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Also, if he reaches say 10 goals, lets look at it now, inferior players such as Callum Wilson and Ollie Watkins have 10 PL goals already. Patrick Bamford has 13 PL goals already. He is tied for PL goals with players like David McGoldrick and Bobby De Cordova-Reid... its not great company if your a 25m signing yet alone a 52m one. 

I feel like I should point something out regarding that but I best not speak...

[Milan 17,955]

 

[Azul 1,615]

Can anyone give me a genuine reason on why he should start? To start Werner would be unfair on the likes of Pulisic, CHO, Havertz, Giroud etc. He has to be dropped like I said a while ago!!!

[MoroccanBlue 5,376]

Because he offers a lot more than just scoring now. 

[whats happening 1,612]

opened up a lot of space for havertz. shame for that chance at the end.

[Jase 43,479]

Could do with working on his left foot if he's gonna be shooting on that side more often than not.

[killer1257 3,282]

24 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Because he offers a lot more than just scoring now. 

What exactly? Because technically, he does not offer anything either. Currently, he is playing like Morata, just without the technique 

[Azul 1,615]

29 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Because he offers a lot more than just scoring now. 

Biggest pile of bs I've heard. Can't dribble, can't pass properly and he also cannot finish to save his life.

Why should CHO be benched or moved to RWB after his performance on the left? 

Mount, Havertz and CHO would be such a good trio.

Edited March 8, 2021 by Azul

[MoroccanBlue 5,376]

6 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

What exactly? Because technically, he does not offer anything either. Currently, he is playing like Morata, just without the technique 

 

2 minutes ago, Azul said:

Biggest pile of bs I've heard.

He's pretty much become a key clog in our press right now, which has been the basis of how we've managed to control games under Tuchel. I don't think he's done much wrong other than his decision making in the third. He's also our only direct attacker given CHO, Ziyech, and Pulisic like the ball at their feet.  And there again likes the basis of our biggest issue, the latter two not performing. What have Pulisic and ZIyech done to warrant themselves starting over Werner?

 

[Azul 1,615]

Just now, MoroccanBlue said:

 

He's pretty much become a key clog in our press right now, which has been the basis of how we've managed to control games under Tuchel. I don't think he's done much wrong other than his decision making in the third. He's also our only direct attacker given CHO, Ziyech, and Pulisic like the ball at their feet.  And there again likes the basis of our biggest issue, the latter two not performing. What have Pulisic and ZIyech done to warrant themselves starting over Werner?

 

CHO should start over him after his performance today. He was amazing on the left and could actually take on players and pass properly. He gave an assist to Havertz that got ruled out unfairly. He also created a chance for the 1st goal.

Moreover his pressing is not bad, his off the ball movement is dare I say better than Werner. I'm sorry but you can't provide an objective reason as to why Werner should start over CHO on the left.

[MoroccanBlue 5,376]

Just now, Azul said:

CHO should start over him after his performance today. He was amazing on the left and could actually take on players and pass properly. He gave an assist to Havertz that got ruled out unfairly. He also created a chance for the 1st goal.

Moreover his pressing is not bad, his off the ball movement is dare I say better than Werner. I'm sorry but you can't provide an objective reason as to why Werner should start over CHO on the left.

Werner, Havertz, and CHO was probably the most fluid front three we've seen so far under Tuchel. Ziyech and Pulisic have done nothing to warrant starting over Werner. I'm still against Mount involved in our attack. Tonight was another display why. 

 

[Fernando 6,585]

Werner is another Morata. 

Let's hope he proves me wrong next season, but this is Morata esque 

[DDA 9,924]

His finishing... composure Ns overall footballing IQ is quite worrying to be honest.