Gonzalo Higuain

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Everyone said no one could score for AC Milan and now Piatek socres 2 out of nothing. Worrying signs, HIguains time is quickly running out so he needs to be adapting asap. Still would have taken the Piatek dude over Higuain 100% but the board nowadays is reluctant to make these kind of deals. 

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1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

Everyone said no one could score for AC Milan and now Piatek socres 2 out of nothing. Worrying signs, HIguains time is quickly running out so he needs to be adapting asap. Still would have taken the Piatek dude over Higuain 100% but the board nowadays is reluctant to make these kind of deals. 

only reason why Higuain is here is Sarri...

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Just now, eemanyooel said:

only reason why Higuain is here is Sarri...

sure but would we have taken PIatek if Sarri was not here? I doubt it. The board would have tried to sign an experienced striker. Maybe even Callum Wilson or Arnautovic. We somehow always get stuck in the middle with these kind of signings. NOt a proven worldbeater for a huge sum, nor an up and coming youngster for an ok to mid-sum. Rather an average, overpriced player because of some shitty reason like having previously worked with the manager, knowing the league or having had a good partnership with another player in our team. I wonder when we are gonna make quality the first and foremost priority in our signings. From a business perspective the way the board works often makes sense but more often than not it goes wrong because they do not really care about the football. I think fans sometimes have clearer view of what is good for the team than the board. Fans really care about the club, what happens on the pitch and also might well be more passionate about football than whoever Roman put in charge. Secondly, fans have less information about players, mostly just videos and streams of games but this is per se the most relevant part of information you need when judging a player. The board have so much more information they base their decisions on more than footballing reasons. in some cases this can avert disasters but it is no guarantee as many flops have demonstrated. But in most cases this limited information helps to concentrate on what a player really is about. That does not mean every fan is always right but often fan choices are more grounded by footballing reasons than the board's

I usually make my call whether I want a player here or not early and many guys on here usually agree with opinion. Honestly, if we would just let a poll on here decide who to sign and who to sell, I doubt we would be worse off than we are now squad-wise. Sure we probably would have a few shit players on here but we would have been rid of Willian, Alonso for sure, never would have sold KDB and probably Salah. 

The worry is Higuain felt like an underwhelming signing since the moment Sarri became our manager. I hope that I am wrong but I would be  surprised if he is the guy to save our season. 

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17 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

sure but would we have taken PIatek if Sarri was not here? I doubt it. The board would have tried to sign an experienced striker. Maybe even Callum Wilson or Arnautovic. We somehow always get stuck in the middle with these kind of signings. NOt a proven worldbeater for a huge sum, nor an up and coming youngster for an ok to mid-sum. Rather an average, overpriced player because of some shitty reason like having previously worked with the manager, knowing the league or having had a good partnership with another player in our team. I wonder when we are gonna make quality the first and foremost priority in our signings. From a business perspective the way the board works often makes sense but more often than not it goes wrong because they do not really care about the football. I think fans sometimes have clearer view of what is good for the team than the board. Fans really care about the club, what happens on the pitch and also might well be more passionate about football than whoever Roman put in charge. Secondly, fans have less information about players, mostly just videos and streams of games but this is per se the most relevant part of information you need when judging a player. The board have so much more information they base their decisions on more than footballing reasons. in some cases this can avert disasters but it is no guarantee as many flops have demonstrated. But in most cases this limited information helps to concentrate on what a player really is about. That does not mean every fan is always right but often fan choices are more grounded by footballing reasons than the board's

I usually make my call whether I want a player here or not early and many guys on here usually agree with opinion. Honestly, if we would just let a poll on here decide who to sign and who to sell, I doubt we would be worse off than we are now squad-wise. Sure we probably would have a few shit players on here but we would have been rid of Willian, Alonso for sure, never would have sold KDB and probably Salah. 

The worry is Higuain felt like an underwhelming signing since the moment Sarri became our manager. I hope that I am wrong but I would be  surprised if he is the guy to save our season. 

while all you have said is spot on...I could remember late Oct/Nov last year we were heavily linked with Piatek...all of a sudden...the window opens we are back to Higuain...just like I said Higuain is here due to Sarri and I think the board would want to back him atleast sign him his targets to see how far he can fair with them..

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55 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Everyone said no one could score for AC Milan and now Piatek socres 2 out of nothing. Worrying signs, HIguains time is quickly running out so he needs to be adapting asap. Still would have taken the Piatek dude over Higuain 100% but the board nowadays is reluctant to make these kind of deals. 

the kind of deals where we spend £31.5m and OWN a great young striker outright

or do an 18 month loan for a 30 something  that costs £27m

and have shit to show for it at loans end

so a BEST case scenario (Piatek is only worth the same)

we lose £27m because HAVE NO STRIKER

worst case scenario

Piatek truly blows up and is worth £100m or more

in which case we lost £70m in valuation and still have no striker

lets say we have to spend £80m in 18 months

that is a total swing in valuation and outlays

of £150m against us

yep those type of deals

Russian idiots!!!!

no wonder Roman has lost over £12 to £15 billion in net worth over the last 8, 10 years or so

 

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2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

the kind of deals where we spend £31.5m and OWN a great young striker outright

or do an 18 month loan for a 30 something  that costs £27m

and have shit to show for it at loans end

so a BEST case scenario (Piatek is only worth the same)

we lose £27m because HAVE NO STRIKER

worst case scenario

Piatek truly blows up and is worth £100m or more

in which case we lost £70m in valuation and still have no striker

lets say we have to spend £80m in 18 months

that is a total swing in valuation and outlays

of £150m against us

yep those type of deals

Russian idiots!!!!

no wonder Roman has lost over £12 to £15 billion in net worth over the last 8, 10 years or so

 

I actually don't think Roman is in charge of it tbf. But I dont doubt the people who run the club for him are similar in this. Business men with no clue about football. They give Alonso this stupid 5 year deal bc all they see is the player has played a lot, scored a few goals, has gone up in market value, Barca Real shown interest, called up for spain - alright must be a good player give him what he wants when all it takes to see what a fraud he is a look at the pitch. But all they see is numbers, they are doing money ball and not even doing it right. 

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Piatek could very well do a Belotti next season 

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32 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Piatek could very well do a Belotti next season 

Or he could become the next Lewandowski

I  think it was worth a £4.5m roll of the

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Didn't get the service tonight. Made some excellent runs, the sort that Cesc would have found to the nearest centimetre.

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Maurizio Sarri admits Gonzalo Higuain is ‘not in good shape’ after Chelsea get hammered by Bournemouth

https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/31/maurizio-sarri-admits-gonzalo-higuain-not-good-shape-chelsea-get-hammered-bournemouth-8417983/

Ffs what state are the others in then!

 

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3 minutes ago, mccg said:

Maurizio Sarri admits Gonzalo Higuain is ‘not in good shape’ after Chelsea get hammered by Bournemouth

https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/31/maurizio-sarri-admits-gonzalo-higuain-not-good-shape-chelsea-get-hammered-bournemouth-8417983/

Ffs what state are the others in then!

 

You will see why Sarri is never the way forward for the club...keep pampering washy wishy piss poor players and continual persistence on past it players...so until Higuain plays 50 games he is get fit then....while CHO keeps wasting away on the bench....

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REVEALED 

Gonzalo Higuain: Chelsea striker’s awful Premier League debut in numbers

https://talksport.com/football/485635/gonzalo-higuain-chelsea-strikers-awful-premier-league-debut-numbers-stats/

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1 hour ago, mccg said:

REVEALED 

Gonzalo Higuain: Chelsea striker’s awful Premier League debut in numbers

https://talksport.com/football/485635/gonzalo-higuain-chelsea-strikers-awful-premier-league-debut-numbers-stats/

Thanks to his team mates...

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How was he awful? I thought he did pretty well given the lack of service. 

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Higuain lacks fitness. “He can improve a great deal. At this moment, he is not in good shape, probably because he has played very little recently between transfer market distractions and back pain. He can grow a great deal over the next few weeks," Sarri told SSN Italia. #CFC