Jase 43,479 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Chelsea 2-1 Tottenham PRE/POST-MATCH DISCUSSION, LIVE CHAT AND ANALYSIS 2018/19 Carabao Cup Semi-Final 2nd Leg 24th January, Thursday, 2019 Stamford Bridge 19:45 Kick Off (UK time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 CHO - Giroud - Pedro Barkley - Jorginho - Kante Emerson - Luiz - AC - Azpi Personally, I'd rotate a bit more, but that's who I think he'll go with. Marina can bring in Jorginho's back-up any time now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 It's 1 goal.. We can do this!! Probably lose against City but to lose 3 times to Spurs no thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 Just now, Sideshow Luiz said: CHO - Giroud - Pedro Barkley - Jorginho - Kante Emerson - Luiz - AC - Azpi Personally, I'd rotate a bit more, but that's who I think he'll go with. Marina can bring in Jorginho's back-up any time now... Rotate? Sarri be like... Doubt we would be surprised one bit if Sarri ends up fielding the same old starting XI here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Jason said: Rotate? Sarri be like... Doubt we would be surprised one bit if Sarri ends up fielding the same old starting XI here! I think CHO, AC, and Barkley are going to start. Giroud and Emerson, I'd rate as probable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 What joys this will bring! Kinda gutted not to get tickets as was only East and west left but at same time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said: CHO - Giroud - Pedro Barkley - Jorginho - Kante Emerson - Luiz - AC - Azpi Personally, I'd rotate a bit more, but that's who I think he'll go with. Marina can bring in Jorginho's back-up any time now... Hazard has gone of the boil recently, but you really think our best player should be benched in a crucial game like this. We have Sheffield Wednesday on Sunday. That is when he should be resting likes of Hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I worry for Sarri here. If he can't get a tune out of the players or show no signs of changing things up personnel wise a little and we lose I think the atmosphere will turn toxic on both him and some of the players. Spurs should be there for the taking though and you would like to hope that if this group of players have personal pride that they'll be hell bent on righting the wrongs of the Arsenal game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Superblue_1986 said: I worry for Sarri here. If he can't get a tune out of the players or show no signs of changing things up personnel wise a little and we lose I think the atmosphere will turn toxic on both him and some of the players. Spurs should be there for the taking though and you would like to hope that if this group of players have personal pride that they'll be hell bent on righting the wrongs of the Arsenal game. That's because we Chelsea are a toxic club. I'm actually disgusted at how quick our fans have fully turned on Sarri and embarrassed knowing how quick the players could too. This game vs Spurs could literally make or break the dressing room if the Arsenal game hasnt already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, DDA said: That's because we Chelsea are a toxic club. I'm actually disgusted at how quick our fans have fully turned on Sarri and embarrassed knowing how quick the players could too. This game vs Spurs could literally make or break the dressing room if the Arsenal game hasnt already. I detest the board far more than Sarri my main issue with him is that we wont ever try to adapt away (if even for a bit) from this fucked up 4 3 3 straitjacket also his lack of rotation and trotting out most bloody games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, DDA said: That's because we Chelsea are a toxic club. I'm actually disgusted at how quick our fans have fully turned on Sarri and embarrassed knowing how quick the players could too. This game vs Spurs could literally make or break the dressing room if the Arsenal game hasnt already. Yeah the fan base has a shorter patience than the board at times. Without this coming out the wrong way (and I don't want it to be seen as a knock on anybody) but our fan base has grown to ridiculous levels over the last 10-15 years. That is also a generation of success. There is a significant proportion of fans who have started supporting Chelsea or kids growing up supporting Chelsea who have only ever experienced success and I do think this has an effect on the lack of patience when you see comments on social media, etc. I view it as the same for me watching NFL. I'm a big New Orleans Saints fan but I have only been following it for 10 years and they've had Drew Brees at quarterback the whole period who will go down as one of the all time greats. In all likelihood he will retire in another year or two and it'll be difficult to adjust to the team being led by a new quarterback and the comparison and expectations will always turn back to Drew Brees, and naturally I think there won't be much patience because fans are used to how great the quarterback has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said: Yeah the fan base has a shorter patience than the board at times. How patience should we be with a rigid manager as Sarri? I can be patient but Sarri is reaching the level of insanity with doing the same thing again, again, and again. It really makes it very easy for fanbase to turn on a coach who doesn't try and think he can make a brake through by banging his head on the wall constantly. He talks about lack of motivation from his players, maybe it is time to drop some players to make a point. Look at Pep he dropped Kyle Walker who is arguably the best in his position for 3 straight games after subpar performances. What does Sarri do? he rewards the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Jason said: Rotate? Sarri be like... Doubt we would be surprised one bit if Sarri ends up fielding the same old starting XI here! We win this game with Alonso and Willian and they gonna be even more undroppable. We win this game with Emerson and CHO, Sarri will bench the two 100% for next 10 PL games. Its a lose lose scenario anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Superblue_1986 said: Yeah the fan base has a shorter patience than the board at times. Without this coming out the wrong way (and I don't want it to be seen as a knock on anybody) but our fan base has grown to ridiculous levels over the last 10-15 years. That is also a generation of success. There is a significant proportion of fans who have started supporting Chelsea or kids growing up supporting Chelsea who have only ever experienced success and I do think this has an effect on the lack of patience when you see comments on social media, etc. I view it as the same for me watching NFL. I'm a big New Orleans Saints fan but I have only been following it for 10 years and they've had Drew Brees at quarterback the whole period who will go down as one of the all time greats. In all likelihood he will retire in another year or two and it'll be difficult to adjust to the team being led by a new quarterback and the comparison and expectations will always turn back to Drew Brees, and naturally I think there won't be much patience because fans are used to how great the quarterback has been. I agree with the exaggerated wild reactions (myself included). But we do make some valid points. You can see its not working yet Sarri who is an expert doesnt see it. And it will go like we are not qualified for such observation and Sarri and club are always right. That is just false. Fans saw it with Iva. They saw it with Cahill. They saw it in Cesc. Now they see it in Alonso and Willian. The managers however always reacted much later, but once they did they proved fans were actualy right. I dont think people want Sarri out seriously. Its just angry reaction. But its also true we are not as pissed with the defeats as much we are pissed with lack of progress, motivation and most importantly changes. That shit just wont fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I don't want to be a party pooper...but Alonso and Willian will start again... ffs with all due respect to Lincoln in lower division... They won't even need any extra work in training to cage and defeat Sarri rigid formation and tactics coupled with shit players he keeps putting out every week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Stats said: Hazard has gone of the boil recently, but you really think our best player should be benched in a crucial game like this. We have Sheffield Wednesday on Sunday. That is when he should be resting likes of Hazard. Forgot that it was FA Cup next weekend and not the Premier League. You're right, Hazard is going to play. I'd imagine that may well mean that Kovacic will start again for Barkley (and, probably Alonso too). Shit, I thought it was PL and we needed to rotate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Sarri blasts his players and yet, he will field them again on Thursday. Hey hey hey, maybe this time it will work!! Anyway, they may not play for the Italian anymore but maybe, just maybe, some of them have the Chelsea pride in them (?) and will do anything to stop Tottenham from winning a trophy. Just maybe. Fabregas would fight, not one single doubt. He hates them. Jorginho could not care less, just like the majority of his team mates. Sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 People can’t be this naive around here. while he can rotate, dropping senior players who are underporming needs to be done very carefully. That’s the easiest way to lose the dressing room and ones job for a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Robchels said: People can’t be this naive around here. while he can rotate, dropping senior players who are underporming needs to be done very carefully. That’s the easiest way to lose the dressing room and ones job for a manager. LOLOLOL Tell that to Zidane, Klopp, Pep, Poch, Fergie, Valverde, Deschamps, Max Allegri, Simeone, Joachim Löw, Giovanni Trapattoni, Rinus Michels, Marcelo Lippi, Bob Paisley, Ottmar Hitzfeld, Jock Stein ,Arrigo Sacchi, Carlo Ancelotti, etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Vesper said: LOLOLOL Tell that to Zidane, Klopp, Pep, Poch, Fergie, Valverde, Deschamps, Max Allegri, Simeone, Joachim Löw, Giovanni Trapattoni, Rinus Michels, Marcelo Lippi, Bob Paisley, Ottmar Hitzfeld, Jock Stein ,Arrigo Sacchi, etc etc LOLOLOLOL (I have more lols than you) Right, because it did not happen to our very last two managers... and it will happen again to this one. Much quicker if he drops senior players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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