Christian Pulisic

[LAM09 6,750]

22 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I am watching tonight. I will post if he comes off the pitch head held high or limping! Odds are limping.

It was the latter, surprisingly.

Edited November 13, 2021 by LAM09

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

I read that his kit sales are roughly in the same bracket as his wages somewhere but we all know that merch alone is not gonna cut it.

Short term it is advertising that should be the main Cashflow source but the club has done a terrible job of exploiting his immense marketing potential. Whenever he is injured he should be flown around the US selling some random  yank trumpery from whatever corp gives us most money for it. Instead we still cling on hopes that he eventually fulfills his potential here. He will never do so in such a physical league. He Ian a cash cow waiting to be milked and the club rather explore ways to do so sooner than later even if that means running his contract down. Exploited correctly he could well bring in more cash than the meager fee we gonna get for him anyway 

mid term he has put Chelsea on a map for almost every American sports fan. Liverpool manure and arse used to be bigger across the Atlantic now we are pretty much as popular. Whenever i see snippets of a us network broadcasting one of our matches they have a huge event with thousands of fans waving our flag kn the middle of the night in the rain, cheering us on. Puli is a marketing gem. He himself is profiting massively from his popularity and it could be expected that the desire to see him play will e your broadcasters to pay more for our matches. Not sure this is laid out to the club or the PL centrally markets our games internationally but at least we should profit somewhere in terms of ads and tv money

long term, with the main face of us soccer of a generation inseparably connected to us instead of an other pl club is huge. Dads will tell their kids of how the first American to win the biggest prize in world club football did so with   Chelsea. If we continue to stay relevant over there we will have a foot in the door of every kid who starts to get interested in football for ages even long after Pulisics retirement 

Doubt we gain anything much, if any at all, from our matches being broadcasted more - if that's the case - in the US. Might be wrong but don't recall that anything like that gets mentioned specifically whenever we see the news about PL broadcasting revenue.

Also, how can we quantify Pulisic's impact in the US for the club? How many are actually already lifelong Chelsea fans anyway and having Pulisic is just an added bonus, how many are actually only following the club because of Pulisic (like we some times see on the internet) etc? 

Would be nice if there's any actual sort of data to see how much on impact the club has made in the US after signing Pulisic because right now, we're just saying he "does" this and that with no evidence to back it up. 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,479]

1 hour ago, DanP2311 said:

Trust me, Chelsea has lost a lot of American fans for its use of Pulisic. They know why Chelsea played CL football in the 2020-21 season. Squad player, ha. When he leaves it will be a good day for all concerned. 

I have read the exact opposite. He has opened the midwest market to Chelsea that was never there before. I cannot think of any US fans I interact with both IRL or forums that blame Chelsea for his injuries.

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

2 hours ago, DanP2311 said:

Trust me, Chelsea has lost a lot of American fans for its use of Pulisic. They know why Chelsea played CL football in the 2020-21 season. Squad player, ha. When he leaves it will be a good day for all concerned. 

I do no really care too much but I don’t see where the club has done anything wrong concerning Pulisic. It is not the club’s fault, Pulisic misses half our games due to injury. Don’t remember him complaining. Neither should he. No one is bigger than the club. 

surley this means you will be gone with Pulisic then I would guess from this. 
will be interesting to see ifthe fans we supposedly lost then go on to support Genoa or whatever tinpot club currently would be interested. Can only be a step down wherever he goes. 

[Dan Lee 47]

15 hours ago, DanP2311 said:

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Yes, I am certain that he will flourish elsewhere, but most of you are not. He’s made of glass, right? So why not get some value for him now before he’s permanently broken?

I understand your feeling. 

[bigbluewillie 1,859]

On 19/10/2021 at 14:36, Jase said:

Who would take him if he continues to be injury prone? 

Barca allegedly.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,479]

19 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said:

Barca allegedly.

I saw a tweet About that but not sure who originally was the source?

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, bigbluewillie said:

Barca allegedly.

Any news linking Barcelona with players should be highly ignored. They are broke.

[bigbluewillie 1,859]

Barcelona are considering a loan move for 23-year-old Chelsea and United States midfielder Christian Pulisic. (Sport - in Spanish)

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

Loan my ass lol

Why on earth should we loan him. 50m at least which they won’t have 

Barca at current level is a massive step down for glass man tho 

[DanP2311 65]

21 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

I do no really care too much but I don’t see where the club has done anything wrong concerning Pulisic. It is not the club’s fault, Pulisic misses half our games due to injury. Don’t remember him complaining. Neither should he. No one is bigger than the club. 

surley this means you will be gone with Pulisic then I would guess from this. 
will be interesting to see ifthe fans we supposedly lost then go on to support Genoa or whatever tinpot club currently would be interested. Can only be a step down wherever he goes. 

You are knocking down straw men. It’s not about anyone doing something “wrong” or complaining. It’s about whether a player like Pulisic is happy as the 4th or 5th winger option (probably not), and whether his sale/loan value is > than the value Chelsea is getting from him (probably yes).

[ZAPHOD2319 4,479]

When he is healthy I really dont see him as a 4th. When he has had to compete to earn back a starting position he has embraced it. He has not lost his position due to performance, but he has had some lengthy injuries that he does have to prove he is a better option than others. Just as CHO and RLC have had to do. 

[Jase 43,479]

2 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

When he is healthy I really dont see him as a 4th. When he has had to compete to earn back a starting position he has embraced it. He has not lost his position due to performance, but he has had some lengthy injuries that he does have to prove he is a better option than others. Just as CHO and RLC have had to do. 

That is not really accurate.

People seem to have forgotten that Pulisic was actually healthy and available for more than half of last season (from December onward) and even then, he couldn't nail down a starting spot because of his own inconsistency, turning up in only about 2 CL games or whenever our league opponent happens to be Crystal Palace. His own injury problem is just an additional obstacle, on top of his own inconsistency, in his way to stake a claim in the XI. 

[DanP2311 65]

On 14/11/2021 at 19:46, Jase said:

That is not really accurate.

People seem to have forgotten that Pulisic was actually healthy and available for more than half of last season (from December onward) and even then, he couldn't nail down a starting spot because of his own inconsistency, turning up in only about 2 CL games or whenever our league opponent happens to be Crystal Palace. His own injury problem is just an additional obstacle, on top of his own inconsistency, in his way to stake a claim in the XI. 

Exactly. A move would be good for Chelsea and would help these other young wingers (especially the good English lads) to develop. Make it happen!

[ZAPHOD2319 4,479]

Played 25 minutes yesterday and was rather invisible out there.

[King Kante 1,476]

Have been thinking a lot about Puli over the international break and his injuries/style of play and something occurred to me. Is he a type of player who should be designated as a super sub? 

For me, his injury record tells us he is always going to struggle with 90 mins × 50 games a season. However, what about 30 mins x 50 games + 90 mins when others are injured, a season? 

Personally, I think this may be something to think about as when he comes on as a sub he is someone who seems to pick the speed of the game up quickly and it also allows him to use his best qualities: off the ball movement, take ons and pressing, to tired legs. 

 

[Blue Armour 4,288]

4 hours ago, King Kante said:

Have been thinking a lot about Puli over the international break and his injuries/style of play and something occurred to me. Is he a type of player who should be designated as a super sub? 

For me, his injury record tells us he is always going to struggle with 90 mins × 50 games a season. However, what about 30 mins x 50 games + 90 mins when others are injured, a season? 

Personally, I think this may be something to think about as when he comes on as a sub he is someone who seems to pick the speed of the game up quickly and it also allows him to use his best qualities: off the ball movement, take ons and pressing, to tired legs. 

 

You mean  sort of like a Salamon Kalou version of Eden Hazard?

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

7 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

You mean  sort of like a Salamon Kalou version of Eden Hazard?

good one. But Sala was virtually never injured.