Nicolo Barella

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3 minutes ago, Jason said:

Even then, would there be space for him in 2-3 years time if we buy Barella AND Kovacic to go with Kante, Jorginho, Barkley, Loftus-Cheek?

Yeah I dont know. Like mentioned above can see one of Kova, RLC or Ross not being here. Kante and Jorginho will also be 2 or 3 years older and you know what the club are like regarding 30 y/o plus players.

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I THINK RLC will be wanting out and personally wouldn't mind it. I really did hope the loan last year would have given him a jump start and tho at times it seems like hes catching on then the next week its back to usual.

As for Barella from what I have made out both Magic Box and Sari both want him and think hes great, And both Pirlo and Del Piero both think he is the 2nd coming so hes got to have summet about him.

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Just read this. Seems Magic Box gave him his 1st start when he was in charge at Cagliari

Gianfranco Zola could be key to Chelsea signing Manchester United target in January

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/transfer-news/gianfranco-zola-key-chelsea-signing-15542210

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6 hours ago, Unionjack said:

IAnd both Pirlo and Del Piero both think he is the 2nd coming so hes got to have summet about him.

Imagine Alessandro Del Piero circa 1996-98 (right before his knee blew) in Sarriball!

 

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28 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Imagine Alessandro Del Piero circa 1996-98 (right before his knee blew) in Sarriball!

 

Yeah it would be crazy. If i had a hand full of magic dust instead of hopes and dreams i would make it they were both that age now and playing for us. And if theres 3 players like them and Zola loveing him and sarri its good enough of a rec for me.

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6 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Yeah it would be crazy. If i had a hand full of magic dust instead of hopes and dreams i would make it they were both that age now and playing for us. And if theres 3 players like them and Zola loveing him and sarri its good enough of a rec for me.

Magic Box is a superb judge of talent, so yes, I rate Barella pretty damn high. Juve, Barca, PSG, Shitty, Real, Bayern dont get interested in scrubs. I just am worried about where he slots in for us. He clearly is made for the position Kante plays now.

I DO trust Sarri's eye too, he was right about Vecino when I slated him hard. Probably is right about Rugani too (that I am not so sure on). I also think Sarri is dead spot on about Sandro Tonali.

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8 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Magic Box is a superb judge of talent, so yes, I rate Barella pretty damn high. Juve, Barca, PSG, Shitty, Real, Bayern dont get interested in scrubs. I just am worried about where he slots in for us. He clearly is made for the position Kante plays now.

I DO trust Sarri's eye too, he was right about Vecino when I slated him hard. Probably is right about Rugani too (that I am not so sure on). I also think Sarri is dead spot on about Sandro Tonali.

I thought he is an ACM mate

Sarri might be right bout Hysaj too.

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Just now, Unionjack said:

I thought he is an ACM mate

 

who?

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7 minutes ago, Vesper said:

who?

Barella!

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46 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Barella!

He is a CMF, a box to box type, he is not an AMF, he doesn't score many goals. Very similar to Kovacic, but with more upside.

Tonali is a DH DMF, classic regista, same as Jorginho, but is far more physical. Tonali is called the new the new Pirlo, but he prefers to be compared with Gennaro Gattuso, as Tonali is more aggressive defensively, very physical (NOW you know why I want him so bad! He wouldn't get bullied as much as Jorginho does, and I think they could even play together if need be, although that is not ideal atm)

Not that this would happen (for so many reasons) but a Sarri Chelsea MF 3, 4, 5 years from now of

DH DMF Tonali (18yo now)

Box to Box CMF Barella (21yo now)

AMF Kai Havertz (19yo now)

would be crazy good

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27 minutes ago, Vesper said:

He is a CMF, a box to box type, he is not an AMF, he doesn't score many goals. Very similar to Kovacic, but with more upside.

Tonali is a DH DMF, classic regista, same as Jorginho, but is far more physical. Tonali is called the new the new Pirlo, but he prefers to be compared with Gennaro Gattuso, as Tonali is more aggressive defensively, very physical (NOW you know why I want him so bad! He wouldn't get bullied as much as Jorginho does, and I think they could even play together if need be, although that is not ideal atm)

Not that this would happen (for so many reasons) but a Sarri Chelsea MF 3,4, 5 years from now of

DH DMF Tonali (18yo now)

Box to Box CMF Barella (21yo now)

AMF Kai Havertz (19yo now)

would be crazy good

Amd by then each of those will cost a small countries national debt. And if we bought them now like you say I can't see them as starters which is what we are needing.

Its a tough decision.

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Just now, Unionjack said:

Amd by then each of those will cost a small countries national debt. And if we bought them now like you say I can't see them as starters which is what we are needing.

Its a tough decision.

Havertz is 98% going to Bayern, as I posted in General Transfer Talk. He turned down Barca. He will walk in a starter there I predict, so a great move for him.

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9 hours ago, Unionjack said:

I THINK RLC will be wanting out and personally wouldn't mind it. I really did hope the loan last year would have given him a jump start and tho at times it seems like hes catching on then the next week its back to usual.

As for Barella from what I have made out both Magic Box and Sari both want him and think hes great, And both Pirlo and Del Piero both think he is the 2nd coming so hes got to have summet about him.

Still lot of football left this season, but at this point the safest bet would be RLC staying next season. He is the one who has seen more minutes as the season gone on, and improving at a higher level. Ross Barkley is the most ordinary, and Kovacic is not owned by Chelsea.

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1 hour ago, Clockwork said:

Still lot of football left this season, but at this point the safest bet would be RLC staying next season. He is the one who has seen more minutes as the season gone on, and improving at a higher level. Ross Barkley is the most ordinary, and Kovacic is not owned by Chelsea.

 Barkley really needs to start scoring. He is our true X factor. Alonso too, as we are always going to trot him out. Pedro also needs to hit in some more, and finally Hazard needs ro pull out of his mini-slump.

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10 minutes ago, Vesper said:

 Barkley really needs to start scoring. He is our true X factor. Alonso too, as we are always going to trot him out. Pedro also needs to hit in some more, and finally Hazard needs ro pull out of his mini-slump.

I'm not entirely sure that Hazard is in a mini-slump.  This article was posted earlier in the ear, when he was on fire:

https://statsbomb.com/2018/10/is-eden-hazard-making-the-leap/

At the time, the metrics suggested he was doing all of the same things he was doing in years past, except for "pressure regains", but that's to be expecting changing from Conte to Sarri.

From the article:

Thus, it’s not a shock to see Hazard’s purple patch in front of goal as the moment when he is receiving the most praise of his career. Unless he starts taking significantly more high quality shots, his scoring rate will come back to Earth.

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