Vybzkartel 284 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: Well last year we were pretty meh but only lost 1-0.so maybe... It was because of Conte's system dont be fooled. Sarri's robotic system will be exploited and we will be violated like against Spurs. We all know Sarri will play Willian and Alonso so the game is lost before we even start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 if alonso or luiz are playing i wont even bother to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, whats happening said: if alonso or luiz are playing i wont even bother to watch. You won't be watching then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I'm afraid of what City will do to our 4-3-3 if we persist with it, especially with Jorginho the deepest midfielder. We're going to concede shitloads of space in those areas for the Sterlings and Silvas to run into. Luiz.... please don't clown around this game. This really isn't the game for Alonso considering the pace City have, they run around like rabid rabbits. Alonso will be targeted so hard and with Kante playing on the other side, his help will be Luiz, Hazard and Kova/RLC...... Sarri needs to mix something up, surprise them, otherwise Pep will punish our predictability with ease. I would play this 4-2-3-1 exceptionally against City: Kepa Azpi - Rüdiger - AC - Emerson Jorginho - Kante Pedro - RLC - Hazard Giroud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 32 minutes ago, Special Juan said: You won't be watching then. i know i just hope sarri reads the forum so he listens to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Vybzkartel said: It was because of Conte's system dont be fooled. Sarri's robotic system will be exploited and we will be violated like against Spurs. We all know Sarri will play Willian and Alonso so the game is lost before we even start. And Luiz and maybe even Morata! the Four FAILS!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Special Juan said: An under-performing player should be benched, it's really that simple, that's how it should always be and how it was years ago. That's whether it's Hazard, Kante or Rudiger, nobody should be allowed to under perform as it's detrimental to the teams progress. Yeah that's how fans think, but it's just not that simple. If a player is underperforming, it still does not make the substitute any better. The fans say, "it cannot get any worse than playing X", which is wrong (yes it can get much worse). Not even going into what the word better means when we talk about different characteristics. For example, I personally think (from what I've seen) that it is very unlikely that Emerson would give more to the team than an underperforming Alonso (and likely that he would give much less), but I don't watch Emerson in practice, so the manager is certainly more equipped to make that decision. Another way managers see it is that Alonso is more likely to positively influence the game than Emerson. The same way an off-form Hazard is more likely to influence a tough game than CHO. There are tons of other factors that we could go into, but that'd take a huge tangent (locker room, pecking order, keeping one's job, tem chemistry, team characteristics, player's confidence, and contracts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Robguima said: Yeah that's how fans think, but it's just not that simple. If a player is underperforming, it still does not make the substitute any better. The fans say, "it cannot get any worse than playing X", which is wrong (yes it can get much worse). Not even going into what the word better means when we talk about different characteristics. For example, I personally think (from what I've seen) that it is very unlikely that Emerson would give more to the team than an underperforming Alonso (and likely that he would give much less), but I don't watch Emerson in practice, so the manager is certainly more equipped to make that decision. Another way managers see it is that Alonso is more likely to positively influence the game than Emerson. The same way an off-form Hazard is more likely to influence a tough game than CHO. There are tons of other factors that we could go into, but that'd take a huge tangent (locker room, pecking order, keeping one's job, tem chemistry, team characteristics, player's confidence, and contracts). I will come back to you in the morning and pick the bones out of this, and give you a few examples as to why change is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Luiz is for sure starting. I think Pedro will be in for Willian, and Giroud will start. Expecting Kante and Kovacic in midfield. If Emerson starts, it means that Alonso was playing against Wolves because he's the rotation option (dare to dream). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I predict Kepa Rudiger Luiz (gag) Azpi Alonso (gag) Jorginho Kante Kovacic Willian (gag) Hazard Morata (gag) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,442 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Vesper said: I predict Kepa Rudiger Luiz (gag) Azpi Alonso (gag) Jorginho Kante Kovacic Willian (gag) Hazard Morata (gag) I think Giroud will start this one for sure. I would prefer Pedro to start, and he still might. RLC might be a surprise entry, or at least a sub. Barkley might also make a cameo. The back 4....I don't even want to talk about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Vesper said: I predict Kepa Rudiger Luiz (gag) Azpi Alonso (gag) Jorginho Kante Kovacic Willian (gag) Hazard Morata (gag) I think Pedro and Giroud will start. I think Wednesday's match was as much rotation as Sarri could handle. I hope that includes Alonso, but it won't. CHO - Hazard - Pedro Kovacic - Jorginho - Kante Emerson - Luiz * - Rudiger - Azpi Kepa *I know how you feel, but AC isn't better right now Get the XI best players (at the moment) on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Willian Morata Alonso...will start and City will humiliate our shortcomings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Sarri says it is normal to have some difficulties with a new way of playing. 'We need to work to solve problem by problem, day by day, and improve.' #CHEMCI Sarri says he knew very well we would have to face difficulties sooner or later because we need to change the mentality of 25 players, something which doesn't happen quickly, but when you find the solution something great is possible. #CHEMCI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 1 hour ago, xPetrCechx said: but when you find the solution something great is possible. #CHEMCI Shouldn't that be "if" he finds a solution, then what happens if he don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 34 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said: Shouldn't that be "if" he finds a solution, then what happens if he don't? Then it is welcome to Sorryball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 15 hours ago, Vesper said: I predict Kepa Rudiger Luiz (gag) Azpi Alonso (gag) Jorginho Kante Kovacic Willian (gag) Hazard Morata (gag) u must b gagging 4 it lol , ffs hope not ruin another footie day grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I'm hoping Sarri has grown a set Keepper Kepa Azpil Rudiger(rocket) Christensen(the reborn 1) Emmerson(fcuk Alonso ass) Kante(Back 2 dm) Jorgy(stick it up shitty) Ruben Hazard(the real 1) Barkley Morata (after counselling) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, mccg said: u must b gagging 4 it lol , ffs hope not ruin another footie day grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I'm hoping Sarri has grown a set Keepper Kepa Azpil Rudiger(rocket) Christensen(the reborn 1) Emmerson(fcuk Alonso ass) Kante(Back 2 dm) Jorgy(stick it up shitty) Ruben Hazard(the real 1) Barkley Morata (after counselling) I would love to see that lineup (except switch Giroud in for Morata) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekinjo 449 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 6 hours ago, bigbluewillie said: Shouldn't that be "if" he finds a solution, then what happens if he don't? If he stays stubborn and persistent in playing the very same 11-man lineup in PL he was using for months now, then I believe people will call taxi for him maybe even before New Year’s Eve. There’s no way Sarri’s favorite 11-man team will survive January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 With what we have in the squad, I would rather see a change in CM, left back and just get rid of the RW in favor of a 4-3-1-2 formation, letting Eden move around freely behind Morata and Giroud --even letting Morata slide around because clearly he is total shit as a CF in the Premier League. Play either Kovacic, Barkley, or RLC or TWO of them with Kante in CM. I completely disregarded the transfer of Jorginho in the summer because even though he's a pretty good passer, I knew he lacked speed and strength. All dubious that it will ever work well with him as a deep CM. Seems dumb to me, but we will see how it turns out in months to come. Need some new striker(s) and different winger(s) in the lineup/bench to make the system work as Sarri imagines it. Just seems like our side is going to be reduced to passing the ball between, CBs, Jorginho, Hazard and back again for 70% possession and rarely finishing for the rest of the season unless some things are changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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