closed Wolves 2-1 Chelsea

[whats happening 1,618]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

If things go pear shaped, the next summer window we might see will be in June, 2021.

when will we found out if we're banned or not. because if we end up getting the ban i can see hazard leaving even if we win the league and el.

[Johnnyeye 7,510]

we just had to lose, sigh... i couldnt watch this game, but its a good thing i didnt, what the fuck is going on? Sarri keeps on insisting playing Alonso, Morata, William when its clear its not paying dividends, and this team is so clueless in attack its sickening, Sarri is not covering himself in any glory. I've read some of the posts here saying we should have started with CHO, Emerson, Giroud, yes i agree that maybe it would have given us the win or maybe not, the fact is the main worry here its the lack of quality in this squad atm and a proper clear out is needed, we have players who are not Chelsea quality at all.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

What is more, Eden might leave in summer, which means only Azpi and Kante remain of the 3 reliable players we had. But Sarri managed to ruin both.

Lovely. 

[Thor 2,716]

Good to see Luiz is somehow getting blamed. Few shots at the manager as well.

Yep. This is a Chelsea forum.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

[Jase 43,479]

4 hours ago, DDA said:

100% agree. CHO, Emerson and Giroud.... we would have murdered Wolves.

Funny thing about is Giroud after he came on, I don't recall him having a single shot at all and overall, we only had 3. With Morata, there were chances and he was getting at the end of them but couldn't score them to save his life! Both still shit obviously. 

[DDA 9,941]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Funny thing about is Giroud after he came on, I don't recall him having a single shot at all and overall, we only had 3. With Morata, there were chances and he was getting at the end of them but couldn't score them to save his life! Both still shit obviously. 

When Giroud came on, the game was lost. The team turned into Acrington Stanleys reserves.

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, DDA said:

When Giroud came on, the game was lost. The team turned into Acrington Stanleys reserves.

But fact is fact.  

[DDA 9,941]

7 minutes ago, Jason said:

But fact is fact.  

You can't dispute facts! 😤

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

9 hours ago, eemanyooel said:

Anytime I see Alonso in the starting line up...I feel like crying and coupled with the fact that Sarri who prioritize modern attacking football with great full backs that offers so much going forward and when we are under pressure...Its a travesty seeing Alonso offer nothing while a quality left back Junior firpo is bossing the Spanish league while Sarri keeps playing Snailonso coupled with hopeless Morata and awful willian....soon I might not watch our games again especially if Sarri persists with these players...

 

So what's this then a glory hunter?

You watch your team come rain or shine, if you're a true supporter.

It's painful I know, but I aint gonna watch Chelsea only when they are playing well..........I'll moan when they're playing shit, but I'll still supoort them.

 

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

I said after the Spuds game I was calling Sarri a dubious manager, my assessment was called into doubt, as a kneejerk reaction.

Well we had a fucking game against Fulham, and got away with a win.

Then we go to Wolves who hadn't won a game in 7 (does Place come to mind) and he's plays Willian And Morata FFS and if what we are playing is Sariiball then give me Conteball.

Sarri's refusal to play Kante in his rightful position and saying that he's never going to play him there is total bollocks, his insistence on Willian an Morata, beggars beliefe and his refusal to play Odoi is criminal.

I said after the spuds game that I can see why he's won fuck all, when push comes to shove he bottles it.

[Vesper 30,195]

7 hours ago, whats happening said:

when will we found out if we're banned or not. because if we end up getting the ban i can see hazard leaving even if we win the league and el.

I would assume sometime after the winter window shuts. I think Hazard is gone regardless, especially if we don't splash truly massive cash in January. The team is fundamentally flawed at so many positions, especially if we are going to play Sarriball. The board is only making matters worse by bollocksing up sales renewing players who are not to level, and making horrific buying decisions (and lack thereof in terms of other players).

This is not me panicking after the yids games and now this horrific outcome v Wolves. I have been steadfast in my warnings and extremely detailed in my SWOT analyses long before I joined this board.

I use this Bajan expression often:

Hard ears dun hear, hard ears gun feel.

Sarri will soon learn the truth of that.

[Muzchap 8,966]

9 hours ago, Mana said:

Muzchap, I like you...but I have to strongly disagree with you here.

No more free passes. I'm tired of free passes. Sarri is showing stubbornness and favorites who are underperforming. If we lose out on CL, it's Sarri's doing and I don't want him to get a free pass.

This is particularly the reason that lead us to finish 5th last season. Look at Emery, Pep. Playing shite? It's on to the bench for you until I see you hungry to improve.

Sacking is not what got us here today. It's the stubbornness and the arrogance on both the board and the coaches that got us here today. If Sarri started CHO, Emerson, Pedro, Giroud today, Wolves wouldn't have won tonight. I promise you that.

Hey Mana

It's cool to disagree mate.

My rationale for the comment is that every team above us has had a consistent Managment structure, footballing identity for some time. They are now reaping the benefits.

Arsenal are slightly different, but they previously had a manager for 20 years. - so the football philosophy, identify and player acquisition was all in alignment.

We have had so many managers and crazy ass signings - American defenders, a dude named Dildo - I don't see City, Liverpool and even the Spuds doing this. I like Emery, he's told the fringe players they can go. We need to do the same, but put trust in a manager to deliver and give them 3 years.

Sarri might not be perfect, but he's our manager and he needs supporting through at least this winter and next summer's transfer window 

If he then cannot get it right, sure it's fine to start questioning him. But, as it stands this is a team he has inherited and his signings have played well and made a difference IMHO.

I'd love to see him have another few summer's.

Happy for you guys to disagree- that's what a forum is all about

[Special Juan 28,141]

10 hours ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Hazard needs to play much better but something has to change : 

We've taking a reason why our "W" 's earlier this season are now "D" 's and "L"  's

Deadly obvious to everyone but the club and Sarri, fucking absolute shite of the highest order.

[Alabama 1,992]

1 hour ago, bigbluewillie said:

So what's this then a glory hunter?

You watch your team come rain or shine, if you're a true supporter.

It's painful I know, but I aint gonna watch Chelsea only when they are playing well..........I'll moan when they're playing shit, but I'll still supoort them.

 

It ain't glory hunting...I am all for passing through the thick and thin even at the expense of results.... But Insanity is doing same thing over and over again expecting different results.... Alonso Morata Willian and Luiz are not future of this club...I will even accept CHO play as a striker rather than using those awful players...I know we are gonna have results like last night but cmon can u tell me lines of the players I listed deserves to be in the starting line up

[Muzchap 8,966]

26 minutes ago, Mana said:

It is hard to support a manager who is making the same mistakes as the previous managers. A top coach by now, knows Morata/Willian/Alonso isn't working and handicapping our movement. But he continues using them. We have better (or great potential) players that can easily replace these three players now.

I was raising my eyebrow on Sarri when he continued to use Morata and Willian, and not putting any of our youths on the bench but because of the "unbeaten run", that was the small excuse I can give him in my head. I wanted to wait until January for him to do something, but he goes on to hint he doesn't need new players in January, telling us Morata/Willian/Alonso are good enough. So unless he changes his mind (which at the moment hasn't) I've lost trust.

The final nail in the coffin for me about Sarri confirming he was stubborn, after CHO had a brilliant night in the EL, said CHO isn't ready for the PL. F*** that. How CHO is going to gain PL experience if you don't even put him on the bench.

We were never lethal up front since the beginning of the year. But! Giroud and Hazard play together better, fact but Sarri continues to play Morata. I don't know what he sees in him, but he better snap out of it before we say goodbye to CL for next season. And his job on the line.

What's annoying is post-match conference yesterday he was puzzled to why we lost. OMG. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know why.

But haven't we said exactly this about the previous 4 managers? 

There's a problem with the core of this club - it makes managers do strange things - maybe it's the pressure of the Axe falling on them. 

I don't know - but either:

A) The players aren't good enough 

B ) The managers are caught up in some weird pressure cycle which promotes shit decisions...

 

 

[Special Juan 28,141]

Just now, Muzchap said:

But haven't we said exactly this about the previous 4 managers? 

There's a problem with the core of this club - it makes managers do strange things - maybe it's the pressure of the Axe falling on them. 

I don't know - but either:

A) The players aren't good enough 

B ) The managers are caught up in some weird pressure cycle which promotes shit decisions...

 

 

Both.

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

13 minutes ago, eemanyooel said:

It ain't glory hunting...I am all for passing through the thick and thin even at the expense of results.... But Insanity is doing same thing over and over again expecting different results.... Alonso Morata Willian and Luiz are not future of this club...I will even accept CHO play as a striker rather than using those awful players...I know we are gonna have results like last night but cmon can u tell me lines of the players I listed deserves to be in the starting line up

No mate as regards the players, I agree with you totally.

It's the loyalty you seem to be showing, when it comes to us playing shit, doubting wether you were going to watch them.

I know you are a true supporter, and you suffer from the disappointment that we all feel, it makes us feel like (i aint gonna watch this shit no more) but we're back again hopefully to see us put in a good performance and with Sarri showing some initiative in his team selection.

KTBFFH

[ccheongf 211]

Sarri ball is dead. Tottenham found a way to neutralized Jorhinno and Chelsea is wanerable now . Other teams follow and Chelsea will have a hard time winning

[Jase 43,479]

Points gained from last 10 Premier League games:

Chelsea - 16
Man United - 14

Only two points more... 🙃

[Vesper 30,195]

20 minutes ago, Jason said:

Points gained from last 10 Premier League games:

Chelsea - 16
Man United - 14

Only two points more... 🙃

16 from a possible 30 is not remotely good enough. That yields out 60 to 61 for a full 38 games. Over 40 points less than Shitty will average out probably per year over a 76 game window.  Over 80 points less cumulative.