Kepa Arrizabalaga

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3 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I have nothing to complain about in regard to Kepa. It's just that I just haven't gotten over the decision to spend so big on him. I know Marcin won't be 19 for another couple of months but I'd have bitten the bullet, made the youngster our starter, and used the £71m to strengthen elsewhere. Still, we are where we are.

To be fair, it's only 35 million but can see where you're coming from. 

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1 hour ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

Don't get me wrong, I know he's not the finished article.  I just didn't think his distribution skills have been all that.  Better than Courtois? yes.  If it doesn't get better, yes, there's a problem.  but, it's because that would mean he's hit his peak as a GK at 23.

The comparison I look at, and can't reconcile myself to, is Kepa vs Marcin + £71m running about at full back, centre back, or striker. I am going to have to stop fretting about this decision sooner or later but I'm not there yet.

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3 minutes ago, Jason said:

To be fair, it's only 35 million but can see where you're coming from. 

No it's definitely £71m. Thibaut was going to be sold in either scenario. If we don't buy Kepa, and start Marcin instead, then we have £71m more in our bank account or £71m of additional player(s) running around on the pitch. 

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1 minute ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

No it's definitely £71. Thibaut was going to be sold in either scenario. If we don't buy Kepa, and start Marcin instead, then we have £71m more in our bank account or £71m of additional player(s) running around on the pitch. 

Well if you put it that way, then I guess yeah.  

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Just now, Jason said:

Well if you put it that way, then I guess yeah.  

The real question I suppose is do we now have an extra £71m pounds worth of goalkeeper? If we do we'll be happy.

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Was always going to be close to impossible to fill the gap Courtois left, who I think really think cemented his rank as one of the best keepers in the world the last few years. So far I am far from impressed with Kepa, but I hope the scouting network, Sarri and everyone else who rated him highly, has seen the potential, and maybe that he just has to settle into the league a bit. I do remember De Gea looking like a bit of a liability at first as well, so here's me hoping Kepa can develop similarly. But it has not been two good performances so far, and the defense does not seem to trust him either.

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You want WC, you have to pay WC money.

This is every (or almost every) remotely very wery good GK out there under 30

 

Jan Oblak    We offered £90m, he said no, now his release clause is 250m euros

David de Gea    zero chance we would be less that £90m to more likely £100m plus to prise him out

Thibaut Courtois    same valuation as De Gea, we fucked up by not selling him last year for top dollar to RM

Alisson   £67m is what was paid, we turned us down for LPool as they have CL and a far more settled situ atm. If he plays to level, put him down at £90m to £100m valuation
  
Marc-André ter Stegen   zero chance Barca sells him for less than £90m to £100m as well

Ederson    Not available, same price now as the other above

Kepa  Did we overpay purely on the NOW? yes, we were over a barrel, but only by £10m or 20m MAX, closer to £10m or so, and he is only 23, I rate him very very highly

Alex Meret  only 21, Napoli got him early in window for only £20m, he was my pre-window number one choice, then Strakosha, huge upside, probably will eventually be the Italian number one (or at least battle Donnarumma very very hard)

Gianluigi Donnarumma    £60-70m or so (maybe even more now) to actually pull him, now that the horrid American hedge fund has taken over AC Milan they are ruthless, AND he has regressed the last 6 months. This board would howling for his scalp if he made the errors for us he has made for AC Milan in last 6 months.
   
Thomas Strakosha    My target all along, once Meret was snapped up, 6 months younger than Kepa,  £40m to £50m would have surely prised him away, maybe less, but I apparently am the only one who pushed him hard, and that was as I mistakenly thought Kepa's release class was well over 100m

Jasper Cillessen    soon 30, no way is he at £40m to £50m a better deal than Kepa

Bernd Leno    meh, who the fuck cares, he cant even unseat Cech atm
 
Alban Lafont   19yo potential superstar, went for ridiculously low  £8m to Fiorentina (worth 3 to 4 TIMES that easily)

Mattia Perin     another miss by the board, is very very good, and went for only £11m to Juve! Same as Lafont, some really dodgy Serie A business sure seems to me, do NOT see how the same clubs buy and sell (officially) for insanely low valuations, it sure smells like dirty dealing under the table
 
André Onana    £30m to £40m is what Ajax want. I would pass, as he is a cunt in the dressing room and has slammed the team and manager in public

Alphonse Areola    another one we could have gotten for around £40m (£50m I am sure at the window end as PSG knew we were desperate) or so, but not the upside Kepa has
 

Anthony Lopes same valuation  roughly as Areola, and will be 30 in early part of 2020-21 season

I absolutely do not rate Butland or Pickford, sorry, no thanks

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8 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

The comparison I look at, and can't reconcile myself to, is Kepa vs Marcin + £71m running about at full back, centre back, or striker. I am going to have to stop fretting about this decision sooner or later but I'm not there yet.

If not Kepa, it would have been another GK for £40m or more and the list is TINY of those who we could have pulled. Lets say we got Stakosha or worse, Areola for £45m (as it was so late in the window). Do you really think we could get a top notch fullback for £25m??? Let alone a centre back or a striker.

We could have pulled Alex Telles, but he would have been around £35 to £40m. Alejandro Grimaldo the same. Jose Gaya £40m to 45m. All other available LBs are not good enough to surpass what we already have.

For a centre back who would fit into Sarriball, we could have gotten Thilo Kehrer from Schalke for around £33m, what PSG just paid for him, but after that the few truly top notch ones are all £40m plus, some over £50m and even up to £70m plus. They also were (mostly) not for sale. Benjamin Pavard will be at least £40m, and more likely far more if he progresses at Stuttgart year over year at the same level as rhe last 12 months. Marquinhos will be £70m, maybe more. Matthijs de Ligt will take £50m or more to prise him from Ajax. Dayot Upamecano probably £40m or so. Jonathan Tah is built like an American football linebacker, but not sure if he possesses the attributes Sarri is looking for. Savic of AM and Manolas of Roma do not. Manuel Akanji might, but again, £40m or so. Malang Sarr is only, 19 and would come in at around £30m or so, but I want to see one more good season out of him. Thats about it out there, the rest are not available plus would be insanely expensive if we tried to force buy.

As for strikers, Icardi was £98m for two weeks. Now will be at least £115m next July 1st to 15th. We should have swapped Willian for Martial. That wont happen now. Martial will be at least £70 to 80m. Unless Timo Werner takes it to another level or Belotti rebounds in a big way (and then both will be £70m plus) , that's literally it out there who is available of any sort of WC quality who is under 30.

We fucked up by not immediately going for Alex Meret, who Napoli got for only £20m in beginning of the window. Or Strakosha, early, who we might have only paid £35m, £40m for at that point.

The £25m or so that we would have (and this is not for sure we would have been able to buy them that low as both clubs knew we were desperate) saved by buying Strakosha or Areola late would not buy ANY of the players above. None. In almost all cases not even close.

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

If not Kepa, it would have been another GK for £40m or more and the list is TINY of those who we could have pulled. Lets say we got Stakosha or worse, Areola for £45m (as it was so late in the window). Do you really think we could get a top notch fullback for £25m??? Let alone a centre back or a striker.

You've missed the point that I favoured the radical solution of installing Marcin Bulka as our starting goalkeeper. Hey presto the possibility of £71m to put toward a different player in our starting XI, or at worst £71m in the bank to spend another time. For example, I don't believe that Icardi was ever gettable but, if he was, he would have been more affordable with just an extra £27m to find rather than another £98m.

I'm not saying that I think Kepa is a bad keeper. Nor am I saying that he may not be better than Marcin. Time may show that he offers those extra bits of quality which justify the decision to sign him. The fact that we haven't seen this yet is neither here nor there. If he has it, he'll prove it and I hope he does. I am saying however that I believe in Marcin. He's young but he's talented and he has the physical tools. In two months he'll be 19, the same age at which Thibaut became the starting goalkeeper for one of the best teams in the world. I grant you that Thibaut was more experienced at that time than Marcin is now, but I'd have taken that gamble.

The one direct comparison I'd make so far is that I think Marcin looks the better shot stopper. This opinion is based on very thin evidence of course, and it certainly isn't enough to suggest that Marcin is the better keeper overall. Not even close to enough, but it also doesn't rule out the possibility. In any case, Marcin does not need to be better to validate the gamble I'd have taken. He just needs to be good enough to deserve his place in the team and to satisfy the following inequality; (Marcin + another £71m worth of footballer) > Kepa.

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13 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

You've missed the point that I favoured the radical solution of installing Marcin Bulka as our starting goalkeeper. Hey presto the possibility of £71m to put toward a different player in our starting XI, or at worst £71m in the bank to spend another time.

For example, I don't believe that Icardi was ever gettable but, if he was, he would have been more affordable with just an extra £27m to find rather than another £98m.

Do you really think that we would roll with a 19yo absolutely untested (other than a few shit preseason games of nothingness) GK for a club carrying CL and top 4 ambitions?. Bulka was oki for a couple games against not exactly in form, top notch opponents, but it is (IMHO) madness to think he is capable at this point to make the jump from the reserves team to our number one keeper.

As for Icardi, we should have at least met his RL at the beginning of his 2 week window and saw what he said. Our board is really shit, as we have bungled 3 straight summer windows, and then, before that, made the horrid decisions to sell Salah and KDB with no buyback clauses (Lukaku I will not lose sleep over) There were multiple top notch keepers (listed above) for insanely low prices. Not saying they are are as good as Kepa, but maybe some will be, and would have been cheaper.The board is to blame for ALL of this, BUT no way we would have rolled with Bulka as number one, zero chance. We certainly could have had Meret for around £25m or Strakosha for £40m or so, early in the window. Those 2 are the closest to Kepa in talent and potential.

I wish I ran the transfers for us, but I don't have a spare £2 billion sitting around atm to buy out Roman.

If I did run it (and no, I am not going to go back in time and reclaim de Bruyne and/or Salah

I would have sure as fuck went ALL out (months of pre planning before window opened up) and hopefully ended up with

GK Alex Meret (or Strakosha)

GK  Angus Gunn

CB Rudiger

CB AC

CB Thilo Kehrer

CB Benjamin Pavard (and he would be backup RB)

CB Ampadu

LB Alex Sandro (failing that, Alex Telles)

LB Emerson

RB Sergi Roberto (you will see why below in the sales)

RB b/u/ rotation Pavard

DMF Kante

DMF/deep holding playmaker Jorginho

CMF Mateo Kovacic

CMF Manu Trigueros (or Roberto Gagliardini)

CMF/AMF Amadou Haidara

CMF/AMF Ruben Loftus-Cheek

AMF Barkley

AMF Talisca (January buy, as that is when his loan is up, AND, if he has NOT stepped up, I would sell RLC, with a buyback clause to finance this)

LW Hazard

LW CHO

RW Leon Bailey or Malcom (see below)

RW Pedro

Striker Martial

Striker Giroud

Striker Davie Selke

 

Sell (and ALL these could have been sold with just basic pre-planning)

 

Luiz to PSG, as they made offer and only then, when we refused, did they buy Thilo (above I BUY HIM)

Cahill (like 5 EPL teams made offers, he would have been GONE)

Alonso (to Barca, they want him for last 2 years) 

Azpi (Barca, and now you see why Sergi Roberto is my new starting RB)

Bakayoko (done basically now)

Drinkwater ( Would have made something happen, and/or used him as makeweight)

Cesc Fàbregas so many La Liga teams would buy him in a flash, and I replaced him with a mini version in Manu above

Moses, (so many teams enquired)

Álvaro Morata OUT

 

finally, from the beginning of the window, priority number one

Swap Willian for Martial, OR sell Willian to Barca and buy Malcom or Bailey and then BUY Martial

 

I have ran all the numbers, the shit all adds up to a net less outflow than we have spent as of NOW

 

roughly £300m in sales

roughly £380m or so in spend

net spend,£80m

and I toss £20m more for variances against us

£100m final net spend, for a great team, with depth and talent and youth at all positions, AND I kept Kante AND HAZARD

Its fucking nonsense that a billionaire cannot assemble a team to future-forward plan and execute all these transactions, the busier clubs this window have done close to this, and with FAR less resources

Bottom line

My team would beat the shit out of the current team

 

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35 minutes ago, Vesper said:

fjust Do you really think that we would roll with a 19yo absolutely untested (other than a few shit preseason games of nothingness) GK for a club carrying CL and top 4 ambitions?. Bulka was oki for a couple games against not exactly in form, top notch opponents, but it is (IMHO) madness to think he is capable at this point to make the jump from the reserves team to our number one keeper.

An acknowledgement that you had misunderstood my original post would have been nice.

No I don't really think the club would have gone with an, in fact currently, 18 year old goalkeeper. I'm just saying what I would have done.

As you may not know, I am an avid watcher of our development squads and have seen a great deal of Marcin. Enough to form the opinion I've offered. It is difficult however to contradict the opinion of coaches and officials who have seen more of both players than I have. It is also hard to deny the value of experience. I just hope the choice was not a lazy one, automatically ruling out the youngster simply because of his youth. Brave choices do pay off sometimes and this may have been one of those times. Perhaps we will never know.

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13 hours ago, Blusan Alamb said:

Should have done better with the goals.

He had 4 saves, and you want him saving a shot from 8 yards after the defence lets them square the ball that easy? He had no chance on the 2nd. 

First one was unlucky. He got there, but the shot was a cracker and bounced awkwardly. 

He had one bobble, but it happens to all keepers. 

 

He is perfectly fine. Don't feel nervy at all like when Willy is in goal. He has great reflexes and sees the ball well. Made a few good saves that most won't mention because they are over analysing every thing he did wrong due to his price tag. 

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2 minutes ago, Thor said:

He had 4 saves, and you want him saving a shot from 8 yards after the defence lets them square the ball that easy? He had no chance on the 2nd. 

First one was unlucky. He got there, but the shot was a cracker and bounced awkwardly. 

He had one bobble, but it happens to all keepers. 

 

He is perfectly fine. Don't feel nervy at all like when Willy is in goal. He has great reflexes and sees the ball well. Made a few good saves that most won't mention because they are over analysing every thing he did wrong due to his price tag. 

I think this is a sound assessment though I confess to a sneaking feeling that Marcin may have saved the first goal. Sneaking feelings don't add up to much however and we will never know for sure. Let's be patient with Kepa and give him all the support he needs.

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13 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

An acknowledgement that you had misunderstood my original post would have been nice.

No I don't really think the club would have gone with an, in fact currently, 18 year old goalkeeper. I'm saying what I would have done.

As you may not know, I am an avid watcher of our development squads and have seen a great deal of Marcin. Enough to form the opinion I've offered.

I do not doubt that in a few years he might be first team quality, and i would NOT sell him of course.

My main point was that with a ruthless board like Bayern have, or Juve have, or AM have or LPool now have, (and I will not add in RM, Barca, PSG, or Shitty as they just spend spend spend with basically no cap) we would not be in this position. Marina is SHIT, and for last 4 or 5 years, the board overall has been shit. They have spent tonnes of quid and made HORRIFIC decisions on both buys and sales. They have gotten punked like bishes by a handful of Serie A teams (Juve, Napoli, Inter, Roma, AC Milan). Zero chance I would go chasing my own goddamn tail with those cunts year after year right down to the wire of the window close. If they dont want to seriously talk business, FUCK EM. I never see Bayern or AM, etc get treated like this.

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12 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I do not doubt that ina few years he might be first team quality, and i would NOT sell him of course.

My main point was that with a ruthless board like Bayern have, or Juve have, or AM have or LPool now have, (and I will not add in RM, Barca, PSG, or Shitty as they just spend spend spend with basically no cap) we would not be in this position. Marina is SHIT, and for last 4 or 5 years, the board overall has been shit. They have spent tonnes of quid and made HORRIFIC decisions on both buys and sales. They have gotten punked like bishes by a handful of Serie A teams (Juve, Napoli, Inter, Roma, AC Milan). Zero chance I would go chasing my own goddamn tail with those cunts year after year right down to the wire of the window close. If they dont want to seriously talk business, FUCK EM. I never see Bayern or AM, etc get treated like this.

It is certainly true that we have made too many poor transfer decisions, over too long a period. Ultimately someone must be to blame for this but I do not have enough information about the functions and responsibilities of the people involved to pinpoint exactly who that is. Nor do you.

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17 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

It is certainly true that we have made too many poor transfer decisions, over too long a period. Ultimately someone must be to blame for this but I do not have enough information about the functions and responsibilities of the people involved to pinpoint exactly who that is. Nor do you.

I would call it a holistic and comprehensive systemic failure. It is clear that Marina is at the forefront, at least since Michael Emenalo left, and he certainly shares a lot of the blame too. Its run far too crony crony. I went to uni with many many people, and made friends from all over the globe. Most I would never let near the firm I work for (and I deal with money far in excess of what the transfer budget at Chelsea is).

Chelsea FC PLC Board members:

 

Chairman: Bruce Buck

 

Marina Granovskaia

Director

She moved from the Russian capital to London shortly after the acquisition of Chelsea Football Club in 2003 and since 2010 has acted as a representative of the owner at the club and in support of the board of directors. She joined the board of Chelsea FC plc and the Football Club Board in June 2013 and is mainly responsible for player transactions.

 

Guy Laurence

Chief Executive
Guy Laurence commenced as chief executive of Chelsea Football Club in February 2018.

He has overall responsibility for the day-to-day operations of the club, including the continuing development of our commercial activities in the UK and around the world, focusing on increasing club revenues.

 

Eugene Tenenbaum

Director
Eugene Tenenbaum was born in Ukraine in the former Soviet Union but moved to Canada at a young age. He is one of Roman Abramovich's closest associates and was formerly head of corporate finance at Sibneft, the oil company sold by Mr Abramovich in 2006. He is the managing director of MHC-Services Ltd and sits on the board at EVRAZ plc.

Often portrayed as Abramovich’s most trusted advisor. Tenenbaum was the head of corporate finance at Sibneft and he probably concentrates on similar things at Chelsea — as has been pointed out in the comments, “corporate finance” (mergers & acquisitions, capital investments, debt management) does not necessarily translate directly to football operations at a football club. Tenenbaum is more likely to be involved in the overall financial health of the club (as a business entity) than player transfers themselves, but that could still include a role as an ultimate arbiter in holding the purse strings and watching the bottom line.

 

David Barnard   Director of Football Operations

David joined Chelsea in July 2002. He has overall responsibility for the day-to-day administration of the Football Department, including transfer agreements and player contracts, ensuring compliance with the relevant football authorities.

In addition, he is responsible for ensuring regulatory arrangements and administrative requirements for all club fixtures, including our pre and post-season tours.

The club secretary, Barnard basically runs the day-to-day administrative (including transfer agreement and player contracts) and functional operations at the club.

 

VICE-PRESIDENTS
Sir Peter Harrison
Joe Hemani
Anthony Reeves
Alan Spence

 

SCOTT McLACHLAN
Head scout.

Chelsea have trimmed the scouting department down to a dozen or so scouts who cover specific regions from over 50 during the days of technical director Frank Arnesen. McLachlan takes their reports and compiles them into the club’s scouting database for others to use in their decision-making and discussions.

 

Transfer spending under Abramovich (net)

2003-04: £151.4m
2004-05: £146.8m

NO MORE BIG SPENDING

2005-06: £51.7m
2006-07: £32.2m
2007-08: £13.8m

2008-09: £12.7m PROFIT
2009-10: £23.6m
2010-11: £94.5m
2011-12: £57.7m
2012-13: £75.8m

2013-14  £47.6m

2014-15  £6.4m PROFIT

2015-16  £2.7m

2016-17  £21.9m

2017-18 £54.1m

2018-19 £75.3m (will be less as other players are sold)

 

total £830m (will be around £800m or lower when all loans,sales are done this window) over 16 year time frame

works out to £50m NET per year

36% of ALL money net spent was in the first 2 years

take away those 2 years

the average net spend over last 14 seasons (per year) is £35.8m 

to put into perspective, Jeff Bezos, over last rolling 12 months or so has made £215m in profit PER DAY

 

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10 hours ago, Vesper said:

I would call it a holistic and comprehensive systemic failure. It is clear that Marina is at the forefront, at least since Michael Emenalo left, and he certainly shares a lot of the blame too. Its run far too crony crony. I went to uni with many many people, and made friends from all over the globe. Most I would never let near the firm I work for (and I deal with money far in excess of what the transfer budget at Chelsea is).

Chelsea FC PLC Board members:

 

Chairman: Bruce Buck

 

Marina Granovskaia

Director

She moved from the Russian capital to London shortly after the acquisition of Chelsea Football Club in 2003 and since 2010 has acted as a representative of the owner at the club and in support of the board of directors. She joined the board of Chelsea FC plc and the Football Club Board in June 2013 and is mainly responsible for player transactions.

 

Guy Laurence

Chief Executive
Guy Laurence commenced as chief executive of Chelsea Football Club in February 2018.

He has overall responsibility for the day-to-day operations of the club, including the continuing development of our commercial activities in the UK and around the world, focusing on increasing club revenues.

 

Eugene Tenenbaum

Director
Eugene Tenenbaum was born in Ukraine in the former Soviet Union but moved to Canada at a young age. He is one of Roman Abramovich's closest associates and was formerly head of corporate finance at Sibneft, the oil company sold by Mr Abramovich in 2006. He is the managing director of MHC-Services Ltd and sits on the board at EVRAZ plc.

Often portrayed as Abramovich’s most trusted advisor. Tenenbaum was the head of corporate finance at Sibneft and he probably concentrates on similar things at Chelsea — as has been pointed out in the comments, “corporate finance” (mergers & acquisitions, capital investments, debt management) does not necessarily translate directly to football operations at a football club. Tenenbaum is more likely to be involved in the overall financial health of the club (as a business entity) than player transfers themselves, but that could still include a role as an ultimate arbiter in holding the purse strings and watching the bottom line.

 

David Barnard   Director of Football Operations

David joined Chelsea in July 2002. He has overall responsibility for the day-to-day administration of the Football Department, including transfer agreements and player contracts, ensuring compliance with the relevant football authorities.

In addition, he is responsible for ensuring regulatory arrangements and administrative requirements for all club fixtures, including our pre and post-season tours.

The club secretary, Barnard basically runs the day-to-day administrative (including transfer agreement and player contracts) and functional operations at the club.

 

VICE-PRESIDENTS
Sir Peter Harrison
Joe Hemani
Anthony Reeves
Alan Spence

 

SCOTT McLACHLAN
Head scout.

Chelsea have trimmed the scouting department down to a dozen or so scouts who cover specific regions from over 50 during the days of technical director Frank Arnesen. McLachlan takes their reports and compiles them into the club’s scouting database for others to use in their decision-making and discussions.

 

Transfer spending under Abramovich (net)

2003-04: £151.4m
2004-05: £146.8m

NO MORE BIG SPENDING

2005-06: £51.7m
2006-07: £32.2m
2007-08: £13.8m

2008-09: £12.7m PROFIT
2009-10: £23.6m
2010-11: £94.5m
2011-12: £57.7m
2012-13: £75.8m

2013-14  £47.6m

2014-15  £6.4m PROFIT

2015-16  £2.7m

2016-17  £21.9m

2017-18 £54.1m

2018-19 £75.3m (will be less as other players are sold)

 

total £830m (will be around £800m or lower when all loans,sales are done this window) over 16 year time frame

works out to £50m NET per year

36% of ALL money net spent was in the first 2 years

take away those 2 years

the average net spend over last 14 seasons (per year) is £35.8m 

to put into perspective, Jeff Bezos, over last rolling 12 months or so has made £215m in profit PER DAY

 

None of which tells you who chooses the transfer targets, at which point in the process these names are chosen or updated, who determines the maximum spend for individual players, who sets the overall strategy, and who assigns the total budget. Yet, despite not knowing anything, you do know who is to blame. You're not being very convincing.

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15 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

None of which tells you who chooses the transfer targets, at which point in the process these names are chosen or updated, who determines the maximum spend for individual players, who sets the overall strategy, and who assigns the total budget. Yet, despite not knowing anything, you do know who is to blame. You're not being very convincing.

If you cannot glean who is scouting, who is choosing targets, who negotiates, and who balances the books, from not just all that but also years of windows, I dont know what to tell you. There is not some secret cabal. Those listed, insofar as their listed duties and roles overlap into the signings arena, are to blame. I laid out the entire hierarchy of the club. Add Roman into the mix too, obviously.