🇪🇸 Kepa Arrizabalaga

[Superblue 6,372]

7 minutes ago, Jason said:

It is really strange to see that there are talks of selling Kepa this summer while nothing is said when other players under-perform or just pure average...

I think it's just far more unusual for a first choice keeper to be dropped for a big game.

Probably being blown out of proportion at present, but if Lampard continues to prefer Caballero or Kepa gets back in and keeps playing poorly then there's a very real chance we look at an alternative in the summer.

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Just now, Superblue_1986 said:

I think it's just far more unusual for a first choice keeper to be dropped for a big game.

Probably being blown out of proportion at present, but if Lampard continues to prefer Caballero or Kepa gets back in and keeps playing poorly then there's a very real chance we look at an alternative in the summer.

Nothing wrong with looking for alternatives but all this talk of selling him already while we have countless of other average players still on the books!

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3 minutes ago, Jason said:

Nothing wrong with looking for alternatives but all this talk of selling him already while we have countless of other average players still on the books!

I personally think Lampard has a bit of a ruthless edge about him and will start the cull this summer.

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2 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I personally think Lampard has a bit of a ruthless edge about him and will start the cull this summer.

We'll see. At times, it feels like Lampard still doesn't know the best XI and is just simply rotating around, like with the 4 CBs. 

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Chelsea: Lots of fans slam Kepa after damming stat puts bad form into perspective

https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/chelsea/chelsea-lots-of-fans-slam-kepa-after-damming-stat-puts-bad-form-into-perspective/

Lots of Chelsea fans have taken aim at Kepa Arrizabalaga after a stat has revealed how poor the Spanish goalkeeper has been for the club this season.

Stats from Odds Checker via CFC-Blues show that the 25-year-old shot-stopper has the worst save percentage out of any player in the Premier League this season, with Kepa having a poorer campaign than the likes of Norwich City keeper Tim Krul, Tottenham’s second-choice option Paulo Gazzaniga and Arsenal number one Bernd Leno.

Kepa’s form has dived off a cliff this season, with The Mirror reporting that Frank Lampard is leaning towards shipping off the young shot-stopper in the summer transfer window. The former Athletic Bilbao keeper was dropped last weekend in Chelsea’s 2-2 draw with Leicester City.

 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

This whole Kepa isnt good enough thing is bullshit and just shows double standards. After Cech and Courtois it was always going to be a downgrade of somesort. People keep saying about having faith with younger players and a manager with relatively no experience but want to dump a GK, who is a hugely respected and well known talent around Europe, after a bad half a season. Last season he was consistent and played very well too.

Being 25 y/o for a GK is still young. Physically he could do with adding some muscle mass, I feel he isnt particularly strong at coming and claiming high balls from set plays and corners but again, De Gea was exactly the same (even worse IMO) at United before he put on some muscle mass. Kepa is lightweight but his reflexes, general shot stopping, distribution, communication and decision making is still very good for me and if he filled out a bit he would be better able or maybe be more confident in coming to claim high balls and command his area. 

The coaching behind the scenes really intrigues me, I didnt see this regression coming after last season under Sarri. I do think he has a lack of fonfidence in his defenders as well. 

Even Cech and Courtois showed signs of regression here too in periods but it didnt mean they were shit so its not like GKs are immune to performing badly or making mistakes either.

Looking for a long term replacement on a 71m GK as well? That is going to be difficult to sell to the board.

[Tomo 21,751]

On 07/02/2020 at 6:35 PM, OneMoSalah said:

Being 25 y/o for a GK is still young. 

25 being young for a GK is a myth, especially these days. Most world class keepers are world class by the time they're 25.

They also decline earlier than people think aswell, look at how poor Cech and Casilas became and Buffon is a very very poor keeper at present.

Van Der Sar was the ultimate anomaly which has given a false narrative that keepers peak/last much longer, it isn't true.

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On 09/02/2020 at 11:12 AM, Tomo said:

25 being young for a GK is a myth, especially these days. Most world class keepers are world class by the time they're 25.

They also decline earlier than people think aswell, look at how poor Cech and Casilas became and Buffon is a very very poor keeper at present.

Van Der Sar was the ultimate anomaly which has given a false narrative that keepers peak/last much longer, it isn't true.

the same goes for most other positions as well

just at an earlier age of around 30 or so

the fall-off is dramatic in all but a very few players

especially fullbacks and wingers

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On 2/7/2020 at 6:35 PM, OneMoSalah said:

This whole Kepa isnt good enough thing is bullshit and just shows double standards. After Cech and Courtois it was always going to be a downgrade of somesort. People keep saying about having faith with younger players and a manager with relatively no experience but want to dump a GK, who is a hugely respected and well known talent around Europe, after a bad half a season. Last season he was consistent and played very well too.

Being 25 y/o for a GK is still young. Physically he could do with adding some muscle mass, I feel he isnt particularly strong at coming and claiming high balls from set plays and corners but again, De Gea was exactly the same (even worse IMO) at United before he put on some muscle mass. Kepa is lightweight but his reflexes, general shot stopping, distribution, communication and decision making is still very good for me and if he filled out a bit he would be better able or maybe be more confident in coming to claim high balls and command his area. 

The coaching behind the scenes really intrigues me, I didnt see this regression coming after last season under Sarri. I do think he has a lack of fonfidence in his defenders as well. 

Even Cech and Courtois showed signs of regression here too in periods but it didnt mean they were shit so its not like GKs are immune to performing badly or making mistakes either.

Looking for a long term replacement on a 71m GK as well? That is going to be difficult to sell to the board.

Kepa is a big problem. Super expensive and very difficult to move. He is not great at anything but quite poor in term of catching aerial ball and reaction time. 

Comparing him to Courtois made no sense. Courtois was outstanding, I have never felt that he will concede easy goals with Courtois that is for me is everything in gk. 

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1 hour ago, communicate said:

Kepa is a big problem. Super expensive and very difficult to move. He is not great at anything but quite poor in term of catching aerial ball and reaction time. 

Comparing him to Courtois made no sense. Courtois was outstanding, I have never felt that he will concede easy goals with Courtois that is for me is everything in gk. 

But his last season here there were lots on here saying he was average and costing us matches...... particularly in the CL. Thats why I compared him to Kepa right now. Courtois is a world class keeper though and he has shown again this season after a difficult start at Madrid how good he really is. It just shows how fickle fanbases are and thats what I meant regarding Kepa who was ranked as better than Courtois by fans here last season....

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1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

But his last season here there were lots on here saying he was average and costing us matches...... particularly in the CL. Thats why I compared him to Kepa right now. Courtois is a world class keeper though and he has shown again this season after a difficult start at Madrid how good he really is. It just shows how fickle fanbases are and thats what I meant regarding Kepa who was ranked as better than Courtois by fans here last season....

They were crazy if they think Courtois was a problem. Even Sarri wanted Courtois to stay although we all know distribution is not really courtois best strength. 

Kepa annoy me quite a bit. His reaction is just too slow for my liking. He can be weak at crossing like de gea but de gea shot stopping is world class (maybe not this season). Kepa is just too average at everything. 

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15 hours ago, communicate said:

They were crazy if they think Courtois was a problem. Even Sarri wanted Courtois to stay although we all know distribution is not really courtois best strength. 

Kepa annoy me quite a bit. His reaction is just too slow for my liking. He can be weak at crossing like de gea but de gea shot stopping is world class (maybe not this season). Kepa is just too average at everything. 

You must of not watched Kepa or any of our games last season then.... hes had a bad half a season but last season he was pretty good which nobody seems to mention. Hes hardly too average at everything, hes regressed but theres been talk of new GK coaches for a while now and when Sarri left the one on his staff also left. If we sign a new GK but the GK coaching behind the scenes isnt pushing or improving the GK then it will be same again. Onana, although a pretty decent GK, seems to be flavour of the month but I really have my doubts whether he is a major improvement on Kepa or not.

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On 09/02/2020 at 10:12 AM, Tomo said:

25 being young for a GK is a myth, especially these days. Most world class keepers are world class by the time they're 25.

They also decline earlier than people think aswell, look at how poor Cech and Casilas became and Buffon is a very very poor keeper at present.

Van Der Sar was the ultimate anomaly which has given a false narrative that keepers peak/last much longer, it isn't true.

Missed this post when you replied. Not sure how I did but I did.

I am not 100% sold on 25 not being young for a GK because in terms of their playing careers they can still play at the top level to they are late 30s compared to outfield players bar the exceptions who seem to decline before their mid 30s.

Other than Neuer, Courtois, de Gea, Oblak, Alisson, Lloris and ter Stegen in recent times I havent thought of many world class GKs by the time they are 25 in the last 10 years for say, probably missed a few, would say Cech as well is definitely in there but he would been older, again, wouldnt say there are lots and lots of them. Ederson could be in there too but I have seen some issues in some games hes played where he has conceded some goals youd expect him to save.

Yes Cech and Casillas regressed but again those 2 had been at the very very top for close to 15 years at least and that consistency is difficult to maintain for a lot of players regardless of position never mind throwing in injuries over time too. Buffon who is now 42, few years ago before going to PSG, he was still putting in very impressive performances in the CL in for Juventus the year they made the final and the season afterwards. Even Neuer who was outstanding for Schalke and Bayern over a period, had a bad injury and people thought he was finished when he still has plenty of life left in him.

I still have huge faith in Kepa, it just takes a string of matches where he plays good to come out of this slump. Just as it does with any player and starting with the United game tonight, who knows? I mean look at the developement of Woijech Szczesny, he is now a very good GK imo and it took him until he was maybe 26 before he ironed out huge flaws and became a very very reliable GK in Serie A. Keylor Navas went to Madrid aged 27 or 28 and Claudio Bravo particularly had a late resurgence to the top level as well when he went to Barca probably in his 30s. Alisson also didnt become very well renowned as a GK in Europe until 2017 as well. He would of been 25 or 26. Samir Handanovic only got real recognition as a geniune top level GK when he was around 27 or 28 as well around Europe. 

They may decline earlier but it depends on different circumstances, I dont think the majority of world class GKs are established as world class by 25 though. As I mentioned I maybe missed a few in that list but in the last 10 years particularly I cant think of many GKs who had it all by age 25 bar the Oblaks, de Geas, Courtois, Ter Stegens, Neuers etc.

 

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10 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

You must of not watched Kepa or any of our games last season then.... hes had a bad half a season but last season he was pretty good which nobody seems to mention. Hes hardly too average at everything, hes regressed but theres been talk of new GK coaches for a while now and when Sarri left the one on his staff also left. If we sign a new GK but the GK coaching behind the scenes isnt pushing or improving the GK then it will be same again. Onana, although a pretty decent GK, seems to be flavour of the month but I really have my doubts whether he is a major improvement on Kepa or not.

I think I watched more of Chelsea games last season than this season. Not sure anything change. The only thing that impress me with  kepa is his distribution, he is pretty good at passing the ball with both feet. 

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Same old problems, it shows Kepa might not actually be the problem

[killer1257 3,282]

Same old problems, it shows Kepa might not actually be the problem

Kepa made various mistakes this season. But Willy was not at fault for the goals. Some great finishing with bad defending from our side.

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1 hour ago, killer1257 said:

Kepa made various mistakes this season. But Willy was not at fault for the goals. Some great finishing with bad defending from our side.

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Kepa was dropped after Arsenal game, and he was not at fault for goals there.

[LAM09 7,056]

Kepa was dropped after Arsenal game, and he was not at fault for goals there.

His positioning was very poor for Bellerin's goal

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6 hours ago, killer1257 said:

Kepa made various mistakes this season. But Willy was not at fault for the goals. Some great finishing with bad defending from our side.

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Caballero not at fault for the goals? He definitely was for Leicester's 2nd goal. Our defence is already unstable as it is but what did he do back then? Ran out of his line for a cross that never gonna be his, which caused even more panic, and then ran back to get back into position, only to see the ball flied past him into the goal. 

I know Caballero being bad doesn't mean Kepa is great but putting Caballero into the XI was supposed to make us feel more safe, more secured, more assured defensively but so far, has there been any difference? Still looking unstable as ever and Caballero has conceded 4 goals from 7 shots he's faced in the last 2 league games and none of the 3 saves are even outstanding saves from what I remember. 

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Caballero not at fault for the goals? He definitely was for Leicester's 2nd goal. Our defence is already unstable as it is but what did he do back then? Ran out of his line for a cross that never gonna be his, which caused even more panic, and then ran back to get back into position, only to see the ball flied past him into the goal. 
I know Caballero being bad doesn't mean Kepa is great but putting Caballero into the XI was supposed to make us feel more safe, more secured, more assured defensively but so far, has there been any difference? Still looking unstable as ever and Caballero has conceded 4 goals from 7 shots he's faced in the last 2 league games and none of the 3 saves are even outstanding saves from what I remember. 

Sorry, I meant Willy was not at fault for yesterdays goal.

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