Jorginho

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Him attempting to keep up with Son was probably the saddest display of the night. Mans got no pace.

[DDA 9,924]

1 hour ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Him attempting to keep up with Son was probably the saddest display of the night. Mans got no pace.

But, but, but,

He should have never been in that situation in the first place. He isn't a Kante. He is a pass master and today he was completely exposed due to the absolute disaster that was our tactical approach. He was caught in no mans land numerous times with nothing but himself, Ali and 10m of grass surrounding him from every angle. Sarri should have moved Kante there and Jorginho into a LCM or RCM position. Either that or set up so the team moves as a compact unit when defending and then pring loading into attack. We were soo disjointed it caused Jorginho to be dragged out into LB positions on his own ffs. He shouod stay patrolling the edge the box and only be in the box when flooding the defence. Poor guy!

[Jase 43,479]

10 minutes ago, DDA said:

But, but, but,

He should have never been in that situation in the first place. He isn't a Kante. He is a pass master and today he was completely exposed due to the absolute disaster that was our tactical approach. He was caught in no mans land numerous times with nothing but himself, Ali and 10m of grass surrounding him from every angle. Sarri should have moved Kante there and Jorginho into a LCM or RCM position. Either that or set up so the team moves as a compact unit when defending and then pring loading into attack. We were soo disjointed it caused Jorginho to be dragged out into LB positions on his own ffs. He shouod stay patrolling the edge the box and only be in the box when flooding the defence. Poor guy!

My only criticism of Jorginho for that Son goal is why didn't he just foul him and take one for the team? He wasn't even on a yellow yet at that time.

On the broader point, you're definitely right. Have seen people jump on his back after today's performance. Had he gone to City, you can bet your house on Guardiola covering his weaknesses and making him look like the best pass master in football.

[DDA 9,924]

6 hours ago, Jason said:

My only criticism of Jorginho for that Son goal is why didn't he just foul him and take one for the team? He wasn't even on a yellow yet at that time.

On the broader point, you're definitely right. Have seen people jump on his back after today's performance. Had he gone to City, you can bet your house on Guardiola covering his weaknesses and making him look like the best pass master in football.

When I was writing the original post to this response I had City in mind. You just know he wouldn't ever be that exposed in that side.

[mccg 1,528]

Jorginho highlights failings of Eden Hazard, Alvaro Morata and Willian in Chelsea’s defeat to Tottenham

 

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/28/jorginho-highlights-failings-of-eden-hazard-alvaro-morata-and-willian-in-chelseas-defeat-to-tottenham-8185627/

Mmm think he should look at his own performances also and come out and say how shit he has been , lucky not to be sent off last few games 2boot , hope Sarri & co sorts things out asap 

[Special Juan 28,100]

Lets be honest, there is a number of players playing under par and have been for weeks.

Everyone needs to take the blame from that game Saturday, I mean everyone. That display, the whole set up and attitude was fucking poor.

It's players who are constantly under-performing I have a problem with, because they seem untouchable and constantly played. A lot of players going through the motions right now...

 

[BlueLyon 9,359]

The real advantage city has is the depth. We have to stick with same players, even if they perform shit.

At city, Aguero, Sane, Sterling, Mahrez, Silva, both cbs...they get benched if underperforming to up their level for next game. 

[mccg 1,528]

Lively Dele Alli stifles Jorginho to put Chelsea’s title hopes on hold

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/25/dele-alli-jorginho-spurs-chelsea

Tottenham news: Dele Alli makes Jorginho revelation that will have Chelsea fans worried

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1050448/Tottenham-news-Dele-Alli-Jorginho-Chelsea-fans-worried

Another instance on what other teams have done/will do , i wonder if Sarri+Jorginho think Italian footie is the same as the prem?!

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Jorginho has been man marked before, just has managed to keep influencing matches. Spurs didn't do anything new. It happened to him in Italy and the CL all the time too. Teams have tried to in the PL as well.

For me the other MF players have also got to step up and there has to be some sort of interchange with those 3 if Jorginho is marked to get the ball out and to get him in the game but if nobodies helping then he's going to keep doing it (sure every player can improve under pressure also) even if it means getting caught out or giving it away bevause that's his role and that's vital to the team. Kante and Kovacic maybe not the best blessed MF players at doing what Jorginho does but they can do better in that regard, Kovacic especially, who has the right skill set to do something on the ball from deeper positions, even just showing for the ball a bit more. I mean even under Jose, Oscar playing as a 10 would drop in and Cesc would move higher to get the ball.

433 has to be flexible, all 3 MF guys have to be comfortable taking the ball, we can't be a team that relies on Jorginho too much in MF for getting out so to speak because if teams mark him out successfully we'll lose a lot of balls, there has to be alternatives to the man on the ball (Cesc coming in and playing on that left side maybe worth a shot, given how he is able to play passes through the lines and very aware of his team mates positions), even Luiz and Rudiger can get us out too through the lines but there's risks involved every time they get that because if they are cut out in our half it's 3 or 4 players count attacking against 3 or 4 players most of the time with lots of space.

The pressing is huge issue still as well, didn't watch all the game today but against Spurs it was disjointed. It was better today but the result meant more than the performance. Still lots to improve. Still needs time does Sarri, Rome wasn't built in a day, but I feel as if he's trying to not completely remake a team like Napoli, because we aren't Napoli, he's trying to make the team similar but not identical.

[Jase 43,479]

 

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Jorginho's Mum: “Jorginho really wanted to play for Guardiola. But it did not depend only on him, but on clubs as well. He asked me: 'As a player, Mum, which one would you pick: Chelsea or City?' I said Chelsea because of the greatness and stronger tradition.” #CFC

[Johnnyeye 7,501]

58 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Jorginho's Mum: “Jorginho really wanted to play for Guardiola. But it did not depend only on him, but on clubs as well. He asked me: 'As a player, Mum, which one would you pick: Chelsea or City?' I said Chelsea because of the greatness and stronger tradition.” #CFC

atta boy Jorginho, greatness and stronger tradition, gotta love his mom

[Johnnyeye 7,501]

3 hours ago, Jason said:

 

haunted monastery? lmao

sorry for this

[mccg 1,528]

Lets have a poll on what marks out of 10 we give to Jorginho so far, £50+mill i'd give him bang average 7? ! 

[DDA 9,924]

Started as a solid 8 but now.... I'll give him a 6!