Jorginho

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Puliiszola said:

That Leicester game, half the team seemed to be on the beach. 

Poor performance is poor performance.

2 minutes ago, Puliiszola said:

You can take it that way. If I was a betting man, I would wager jorginho not being here at the start of next season rather than being here. And that too with some confidence. 

I could care less whether Jorginho stays but...

[Puliiszola 519]

22 minutes ago, Jason said:

Poor performance is poor performance.

I could care less whether Jorginho stays but...

Don't give you giving the same amount of credit to city, which was our best defensive performance in last 2 years.

 

Hmmm, does not seem like it, but sure.

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Puliiszola said:

Don't give you giving the same amount of credit to city, which was our best defensive performance in last 2 years.

Hmmm, does not seem like it, but sure.

I already said that was due to the nature of our setup for that game - we played defensive and on the counter attack. That suited Kante very well. Even Christensen and Rudiger, who most people want out, looked great in that game!

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, Puliiszola said:

Don't give you giving the same amount of credit to city, which was our best defensive performance in last 2 years.

Hmmm, does not seem like it, but sure.

 

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

I already said that was due to the nature of our setup for that game - we played defensive and on the counter attack. That suited Kante very well. Even Christensen and Rudiger, who most people want out, looked great in that game!

Furthermore, we set up very similar in the same fixture last season against City, with Jorginho at the base of the midfield and we looked solid as well...

[NikkiCFC 8,063]

6 minutes ago, Puliiszola said:

Don't give you giving the same amount of credit to city, which was our best defensive performance in last 2 years.

Against uninterested City side? They had nothing to play for and looked like that. We kept two clean sheets against City just last season in 2-0 home win and in 120 minutes long cup final.

[Alabama 1,992]

1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said:

Against uninterested City side? They had nothing to play for and looked like that. We kept two clean sheets against City just last season in 2-0 home win and in 120 minutes long cup final.

Uninterested indeed...

That have won all their matches with high scoring margins bar our game...

[Jase 43,479]

14 minutes ago, Alabama said:

That have won all their matches with high scoring margins bar our game...

Tell that to Bournemouth and Southampton...

[Puliiszola 519]

26 minutes ago, Alabama said:

Uninterested indeed...

That have won all their matches with high scoring margins bar our game...

They trashed Liverpool 4-0, but we play our best defensive game, but it's only because city were uninterested. 

I guess the whole dynamic would have changed if jorginho was playing. 

3 games to go, hopefully he does not take the field again. Would be best for the club. And then bye bye 

[Alabama 1,992]

25 minutes ago, Jason said:

Tell that to Bournemouth and Southampton...

What is the winning margins of those teams you mentioned...till then...

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Alabama said:

What is the winning margins of those teams you mentioned...till then...

But losses to Southampton and us are sandwiched between those wins...

[Alabama 1,992]

Just now, Puliiszola said:

They trashed Liverpool 4-0, but we play our best defensive game, but it's only because city were uninterested. 

I guess the whole dynamic would have changed if jorginho was playing. 

3 games to go, hopefully he does not take the field again. Would be best for the club. And then bye bye 

The irony of the whole arguments is watch them come for Mount head when he days and nights better in what he is doing than pointless Jorginho...whether Kante will be the long term solution in that DM or not I dont know but he gives us defensive balance especially with the way Lampard wants the team going forward...

[Alabama 1,992]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

But losses to Southampton and us are sandwiched between those wins...

Yet Pep played his strongest team against us...

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Alabama said:

Yet Pep played his strongest team against us...

For the record, I never said City were uninterested against us. It's just your post was slightly off the mark. 

[Alabama 1,992]

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

For the record, I never said City were uninterested against us. It's just your post was slightly off the mark. 

Oh my bad...now I got your point...

[Vesper 29,087]

6 minutes ago, Alabama said:

The irony of the whole arguments is watch them come for Mount head when he days and nights better in what he is doing than pointless Jorginho...whether Kante will be the long term solution in that DM or not I dont know but he gives us defensive balance especially with the way Lampard wants the team going forward...

The only thing Kante is for sure long term is on and off and back on the injured list.

Go get Declan Rice Rice and play him in a double 6 with Kante and I am good tactically, but I have to say, his constant injuries worry the fuck out of me.

And if Lampard goes back to ramming him in as a RMF in a 3 man mid, I and going to lose my mind.

Lampard probably cost us an EASY third (or even 2nd) place by jacking Kante into the side when he came back. It fucking killed our seasonal momentum.

[Alabama 1,992]

23 minutes ago, Vesper said:

The only thing Kante is for sure long term is on and off and back on the injured list.

Go get Declan Rice Rice and play him in a double 6 with Kante and I am good tactically, but I have to say, his constant injuries worry the fuck out of me.

And if Lampard goes back to ramming him in as a RMF in a 3 man mid, I and going to lose my mind.

Lampard probably cost us an EASY third (or even 2nd) place by jacking Kante into the side when he came back. It fucking killed our seasonal momentum.

Spot on...but from the post convid games seems he has learnt a little and the only way he picture Kante now as a sitting DM and with two other 8s...which should be enough to provide defensive cover for other two midfielders(8s) similar to Fernandinho KDB and Silva of City last season team...

With Rice in the team and Kante niggling injuries he can be a solid option there...

[kellzfresh 7,229]

1 hour ago, Alabama said:

Spot on...but from the post convid games seems he has learnt a little and the only way he picture Kante now as a sitting DM and with two other 8s...which should be enough to provide defensive cover for other two midfielders(8s) similar to Fernandinho KDB and Silva of City last season team...

With Rice in the team and Kante niggling injuries he can be a solid option there...

Exactly why we are linked with Rice. If we can get him, he's tall, a good tackler and has a good pass on him. All these excuses defending Jorginho will be thrown out of the window, because with Jorginho we cant play all the attacking players we want to get next season. That would leave the team unbalanced. A pure tackling DM would do wonders.

[killer1257 3,282]

Exactly why we are linked with Rice. If we can get him, he's tall, a good tackler and has a good pass on him. All these excuses defending Jorginho will be thrown out of the window, because with Jorginho we cant play all the attacking players we want to get next season. That would leave the team unbalanced. A pure tackling DM would do wonders.

Rice only makes sense if we sell Kante. Playing Kante and Rice together will bore me to death [emoji30]. And I do not see Kante leaving us. Lampard loves him and Kante wants to stay. Real cannot afford him and I do not see PSG going for him right now

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