The Sarri Thread

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2 hours ago, Jason said:

Fans want youth integration but no one is expecting or demanding the manager to throw 11 players in. At the moment, there's James, Mount, CHO and maybe Abraham as well as Tomori. Hardly tons. 

Getting result is important but this coming season is also about laying the foundation, rebuilding the squad for years to come. Trudging along with the same set, over the hill players again isn't going to get us anywhere.

Tammy, James, CHO, Mount, Tomori. That are 5 players that you have incorporate. Even Jurgen Klopp who is known here to give youth chances only develop taa and gomez. 2 players in 3/4 seasons.  Yet people here want us to develop 5 in one season. That is a recipe for a disaster. 

That is the reality. Fans want youth and academy player but you cannot play them simply because they are youth. 

If the senior player who is clearly better than the youth and you don't play him. They will be unhappy. Soon you will have massive problem in your squad. 

 

[Superblue 6,372]

2 hours ago, communicate said:

There is difference in term of having 1/2 youth player as part of rotation than having tons of youth player in your team. 

I cannot agree more with your 2nd point but that is not what Chelsea fans want. They want their youth player play as starter. It is similar to what Ole did. Lets play Chong over Martial, of course United fans love it but it was recipes for disaster unless Chong is really better than Martial. 

That is why I use CHO as example. Yes it is fine to force CHO to play although Willian is better but if we do that with the majority of the squad we will be lucky if we finish 6th.

Every club wants their youth players to be starters, it's not just Chelsea but most people are realistic. Regarding CHO you are right, it's not like he is much better if at all compared to Willian and Pedro currently but we're talking about an 18 year old who's played about 20 games compared to 2 very experienced players coming towards the twilight of their careers. Without Hazard (who is the prime player in that position) we're now left with two young inexperienced players brimming with potential and two experienced professionals who are solid but not as good as they once were. We effectively need all of them next season to perform a role.

The issue many people had last season was that Willian and Pedro were in poor form yet CHO still couldn't get any game time. Similar with RLC, although his season was "stop-start" due to niggling injuries, there were also stretches where he wasn't getting much game time despite Barkley and Kovacic not playing well. The problem is the culture created at Chelsea means that it's difficult to blame Sarri for not being willing to risk giving younger players opportunities. History would suggest he'd be at the club for a season or two and he would want personal glory in that time in the form of silverware. As you alluded to, CHO will be a project that takes time and patience and the likelihood will be he won't become the player the potential suggests for another couple of seasons. Sarri likely won't be here to reap those benefits so he's less likely to take the risks.

This is where I believe Lampard will be beneficial because I feel his affinity with the club (and Jody Morris alongside him), coupled with what seems so far to be a willingness to trust younger players will mean he will be more willing to lay the groundwork for some of these youngsters, even in the risk that he may not be here himself to reap the rewards of them. 

As @Jason mentioned, the first stage is to integrate them within the first team squad initially. It's not a case of having a first choice XI where half of the team is academy trained (although would be fantastic), it's providing a pathway for these younger players to become squad players first and then develop within the club to hopefully become first choice one day. But if we can have 3, 4 or more academy players in the squad it will be just as important as 1 or 2 academy players in the first XI because it will save the club millions in transfer fees buying average players to fill out the squad (Drinkwater, Zappacosta, etc). This should allow the club to go into transfer windows being able to use a budget on no more than a couple of top players to improve the starting XI, not filling squad numbers. If we brought Christensen, CHO and RLC from other clubs you would likely be looking at the best part of £100-150m.

It's a similar scene for some of those we're looking to integrate. Take Reece James, Mount and Abraham - all performed well last season and if all were owned by the clubs they were on loan at last season there would be teams in the Premier League eyeing them up and all would be worth millions. Without being able to buy this summer, it's a real opportunity to freshen up and re-energise our squad.

 

 

 

[Superblue 6,372]

7 minutes ago, communicate said:

Tammy, James, CHO, Mount, Tomori. That are 5 players that you have incorporate. Even Jurgen Klopp who is known here to give youth chances only develop taa and gomez. 2 players in 3/4 seasons.  Yet people here want us to develop 5 in one season. That is a recipe for a disaster. 

That is the reality. Fans want youth and academy player but you cannot play them simply because they are youth. 

If the senior player who is clearly better than the youth and you don't play him. They will be unhappy. Soon you will have massive problem in your squad. 

 

No one is expecting any of these to be automatic first choice starters. I think many hope that CHO can come back from injury and perform to make a position his own in the starting XI but to start with he'll likely be rotated with Pulisic, Pedro and Willian across two positions.

James realistically should replace Zappacosta in the squad and over time go from backup to Azpi to replacing him as first choice.

Mount and Abraham will be squad players too. However we are thin on midfield depth and up front we have no undisputed first choice so it's the perfect opportunity to integrate them into the squad. 

Tomori I probably would let go on loan again next season as we have better options and depth at centre back.

It's hardly asking for much. CHO is already established within the first team squad from last season, Mount will be needed to replace Kovacic (and RLC is out long term) and Abraham will be needed to replace Higuain. So it is only James potentially coming in to properly replace a player already in the first team squad. 

[coolhead23 1,147]

Thanks for the services, Sarri ... specially the Europa Cup. 

I hope Sarri takes the learning from his year at the Bridge and evolves rather than being rigid if he wants to keep winning titles at the highest level. 

On a side note, this year has indeed been very eventful ... Hazard leaving, change in mentality (more offensive), Roman missing from the Bridge and last but not the least we are selling & not sacking a Manager ... yupieeee ... thats History under Roman's regime  

 

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I wonder how them Napoli fans think right now or even Juve ones.......if anyone got juicy qoutes please by all means post them, must be a ton of nasty shit.

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[the wes 7,212]

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22 minutes ago, the wes said:

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That thing will last him 2 days tops

[Jase 43,479]

Moving this to the Football Banter section...

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Juve, Sarri: 'I want to help Ronaldo break more records. I don't know what Sarrismo is'

https://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/live-sarri-s-first-press-conference-at-juventus-91546

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Sarri at his unveiling today:

 

'We had to accommodate Hazard's characteristics, as he could change the game, but also his presence caused issues in defending that we had to work on,' he admitted. No your tacticas were flawed and thus many holes evident. Did he not say that he wanted Hazard to mostly be operating on the last 25 yards of the opponents saying that he's not meant to be defending?

And he went on to add that none of the Chelsea players are of the quality of Cristiano Ronaldo, who will represent a step up in class. Why even mention such a thing Sarri? Thats a punk move my man.

'The feeling when Juve called me? Strong', he said. 'I've never seen a club so determined to get a coach before. Sure thing fella, if you say so.

'The Premier League was a great experience, but in the latter half (of the season), I felt professional and personal needs to return to Italy.' More likely you had your ass handed to you and you knew next season was your death blow in EPL.

Whatever it is what it is....good luck to you, we may see you in CL and my god we must be Victorias.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Cant believe how people respect this guy and at same time shit on lets say Courtois. 

Both are in the same bracket. 

He just fucked off because he got better offer and fancier players over there. Already stating he is now in much bigger club and shit.

All this homesickness is one bs too. He just went for Juve because he will have easier work there with better players. 

I understand his motives, but the dude is like one of those pricky big ego players that ditch the club the moment something goes wrong. I have never seen a top manager pull that shit.

He came here for 3 years, got support from board and then decides to ditch the ship after one season. 

Was he offended that fans booed him? Well no fucking wonder if he played most boring football I have ever seen. Even Mou at his worst was more entertaining.

And dont get me even start with 3rd place because that was the biggest fluke ever. Other teams dropping even more points than us.

He does deserve the EL title though, but thats EL. 

I hope we meet them in CL and Jorginho scores winning goal. That would teach this ungrateful fucker a lesson.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

32 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

He just fucked off because he got better offer and fancier players over there. Already stating he is now in much bigger club and shit.

All this homesickness is one bs too.

If someone offered you a better job with a better workforce would you turn it down of course not. You seriously can't be that naive to think that there's such a thing as loyalty in football. He's said today that he thought the British tabloids unfairly criticised him so all in all why would he want to stay and please spare me anything that has the word project in it.

Why is being homesick bullshit he's 60 years old and his parents are still alive why wouldn't he want to go back home to be nearer to them. 

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25 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Why is being homesick bullshit he's 60 years old and his parents are still alive why wouldn't he want to go back home to be nearer to them. 

Why come in EPL to begin with then? Why sign a 3 year deal? He chickened out its that simple my man. Now some of of it might be true, but he still fucked up and tailed ass as soon as he could. EPL and Chels are above him, challenge too big.

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1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

Cant believe how people respect this guy and at same time shit on lets say Courtois. 

Both are in the same bracket. 

He just fucked off because he got better offer and fancier players over there. Already stating he is now in much bigger club and shit.

All this homesickness is one bs too. He just went for Juve because he will have easier work there with better players. 

I understand his motives, but the dude is like one of those pricky big ego players that ditch the club the moment something goes wrong. I have never seen a top manager pull that shit.

He came here for 3 years, got support from board and then decides to ditch the ship after one season. 

Was he offended that fans booed him? Well no fucking wonder if he played most boring football I have ever seen. Even Mou at his worst was more entertaining.

And dont get me even start with 3rd place because that was the biggest fluke ever. Other teams dropping even more points than us.

He does deserve the EL title though, but thats EL. 

I hope we meet them in CL and Jorginho scores winning goal. That would teach this ungrateful fucker a lesson.

He was never ever Chels material. People saying he would come good with progressive style and look at how Pep Klopp did in their first season, as if its some kind of benchmark to use when we dont have the right people running shit and dont spend nowhere near as some Clubs. He was never Chels quality and his footy was abysmal 90% of the time. If its true it was Marina who wanted him, then its another fuck up by the mistress.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

14 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Why come in EPL to begin with then? Why sign a 3 year deal? He chickened out its that simple my man. Now some of of it might be true, but he still fucked up and tailed ass as soon as he could. EPL and Chels are above him, challenge too big.

As if he knew he'd be fucked with a transfer ban. He was brutally criticised last season, both by fans and the media, in spite finishing 3rd and winning a trophy.

Any sensible person would take the better offer, especially with Hazard gone. The board probably gave him no reassurances either. 

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Just now, MoroccanBlue said:

As if he knew he'd be fucked with a transfer ban. He was brutally criticised last season, both by fans and the media, in spite finishing 3rd and winning a trophy.

Any sensible person would take the better offer, especially with Hazard gone. The board probably gave him no reassurances either. 

He was rightly dissed....horrible footy with kids like tactics. No we got third despite of him and cuz our rivals totally chocked the last 6 games, just 1 more win by Arsenal and we were done. We met no one in EL and kinda a miracle we got through Frankfurt, but hey its still all good. The bann? So he is a chicken shit, instead of fighting and showing his class he skips as soon as a wall is in front of him. And now he is all high and mighty with Chels this and Juve that....good fucking riddance imo. 

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1 minute ago, Atomiswave said:

 The bann? So he is a chicken shit, instead of fighting and showing his class he skips as soon as a wall is in front of him. And now he is all high and mighty with Chels this and Juve that....good fucking riddance imo. 

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

37 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Why come in EPL to begin with then? Why sign a 3 year deal? He chickened out its that simple my man. Now some of of it might be true, but he still fucked up and tailed ass as soon as he could. EPL and Chels are above him, challenge too big.

He gets offered a three year contract at Chelsea he takes it a year later he gets what he believes to be a better job so he moves on. I know your a conspiracy theorist mate that's why you've been banned from other Chelsea forums nothing sinister going on in a nutshell an Italian moves back home to an Italian club.