Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 Our full backs are shite, Azpilcueta and Alonso offer nothing, and I mean nothing. Jorginho is a passenger, Hazard is in and out, no forward and Willian. Factor all that together, you have got massive problems. 0007, Fernando, Supermonkey92 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 we need to be a team that can adapt OH THE IRONY!!!!!! xPetrCechx, Ryan Fong, Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Finally, this is what I want to hear! We shall see what comes of this. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,172 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Special Juan said: Our full backs are shite, Azpilcueta and Alonso offer nothing, and I mean nothing. Jorginho is a passenger, Hazard is in and out, no forward and Willian. Factor all that together, you have got massive problems. Kovacic and Barkley are also about as useful as tits on a bull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 Just now, Vesper said: Kovacic and Barkley are also about as useful as tits on a bull Both ordinary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Special Juan said: Both ordinary. all our center mid.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fernando said: Finally, this is what I want to hear! We shall see what comes of this. What comes of this? He'll likely just play the same players, same tactics, same formation, same shit again... Johnnyeye and Ryan Fong 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 19, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted January 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Fernando said: Guardiola didn't change after his first season. He was also rigid and people thought he was crazy. I'm willing to give Sarri another season to see if there's improvement. I knew the first season we would be like this. That's why I'm not surprised. However we should see some improvement next season. I agree 100% People thought Pep was daft trying to play his style of football with Bravo, Otamendi, Zabaleta and Kolorov. A year later they steamrolled the league because they upgraded their weakenesses. I didnt expect an easy ride this year under Sarri because it was so clear that Conte maximized almost everything he could out of what we had when we won the league. It didnt work the following season because we weren't good enough and sold 2 key players in Costa and Matic, both who were very good and have never been replaced properly. We finished 5th last season, weve hardly massively improved any position on the pitch bar the addition of Jorginho but that also comes at the loss of what Cesc could offer. Glaring issues are still there, left back, right wing and upfront. Throw in the lack of movement or productivity from our front 3 and midfield... even more glaring issues. I think if Sarri gets next season it will be a lot better yes, but that also depends on improving the squad and first 11. Which very much lies with the board more than Sarri due to his reluctance to be involved with the market. kc_blue, kellzfresh, Sideshow Luiz and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Absolute rubbish he's world class, he isn't even the best player in the PL. He's proven many times at Chelsea because the shite he's surrounded by makes him glitter. Two players in the world that are world class, Messi and Ronaldo the rest are absolute miles and miles behind. They are game changers, goal machines and players who change things in the blink of an eye. you consider 2 players in the world world class that's okay. Messi doesn't even look half as dominant for Argentina when he isnt surrounded with the best players at Barcelona. Hazard's performance for Belgium either equals or supersedes anything Messi has done with Argentina. Messi and Ronaldo don't play with the dross Hazard has had to endure with for most of his Chelsea career. Wait till Hazard leaves us and joins a better team and you'll quickly see what he means to this side. Don't let your frustrations with the current state of affairs at the club make you say silly things. Hazard is demonstrably the PL's best player. So far, Sarri is pretty much following the Conte script of playing Hazard out of position which has coincided with drop in goals : games ratio. It's literally the same as 17/18. If Higuian is the striker we think he is, Hazard will be back ripping shit up in his natural position. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mana said: I've heard this before from him...especially after the Spuds league game.... Fooled me once. Well let's wait and see. Sometimes it's better to be a bit more patience and he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Jason said: What comes of this? He'll likely just play the same players, same tactics, same formation, same shit again... Yes, some players should change. As far as tactics I don't know. I still he should still continue with the 4-3-3....but with a striker. No False 9. I really dislike that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Fernando said: Guardiola didn't change after his first season. He was also rigid and people thought he was crazy. I'm willing to give Sarri another season to see if there's improvement. I knew the first season we would be like this. That's why I'm not surprised. However we should see some improvement next season. Changing style and changing tactics, formation are two different things. And I was talking about the latter... Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Here we go again with the dreaded "suffering" word. Literally can't make half of this shit up! xPetrCechx and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mana said: He is about to bottle top 4 for us. If this result today doesn't change him, nothing would. And that's why I'm leaning Sarri out. We still got EL. Don't worry he will change some things. That talk he just gave its pretty convincing to me. After the Spurs game, I would have done the same. Mad at the player, but maybe you thought it was a one game. So be patience with them and give them time. I think this time is for real. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, MrExcalibur100 said: Here we go again with the dreaded "suffering" word. Literally can't make half of this shit up! Is conte is back already? Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Bringing a striker and playing Eden in his actual position will at least bring back the best of Eden. I mean the guy plays two best players Eden and Kante out of their position and questions whats wrong. Simple math mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Anyone noticed that Sarri has been low-key diverting the blame all season? Every time we lose a game, he always talks about the players' poor mentality, attitude and nothing about what he did etc. If it had been Mourinho or Conte... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said: you consider 2 players in the world world class that's okay. Messi doesn't even look half as dominant for Argentina when he isnt surrounded with the best players at Barcelona. Hazard's performance for Belgium either equals or supersedes anything Messi has done with Argentina. Messi and Ronaldo don't play with the dross Hazard has had to endure with for most of his Chelsea career. Wait till Hazard leaves us and joins a better team and you'll quickly see what he means to this side. Don't let your frustrations with the current state of affairs at the club make you say silly things. Hazard is demonstrably the PL's best player. So far, Sarri is pretty much following the Conte script of playing Hazard out of position which has coincided with drop in goals : games ratio. It's literally the same as 17/18. If Higuian is the striker we think he is, Hazard will be back ripping shit up in his natural position. He's not better than Salah, in fact he's actually not any better than David Silva who's approaching the end of his life at City. Right now people are putting Hazard on this big fuck off pedestal once again, he's good, but he ain't that good. There is a fucking good link up striker on the bench in Giroud that linked up pretty well with him earlier in the season, but isn't that up to Sarri again? Higuain will not mask the issues in this team, he will merely become a focal point, but a focal point is nothing without service. Our LB is shite, out number 10 is in and out, our 22 is garbage and we have midfield players without a fucking clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Jason said: Anyone noticed that Sarri has been low-key diverting the blame all season? Every time we lose a game, he always talks about the players' poor mentality, attitude and nothing about what he did etc. If it had been Mourinho or Conte... Because we all know that is true. Same players that drop in performance for two of those managers. Did it for Mourinho, for Conte and now Sarri. They will do the same for any new manager that comes in. OneMoSalah and BlueSunshine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 If he thinks its tough to motivate the players then maybe he should advise the club to sell some them and change the dynamic. Some of the guys have been here for a long time with mixed levels of success. Sir Alex Ferguson was always unbelievable at breaking up a successful squad or team when the point was right. Maybe its time to consider letting a few guys go, guys whos heads are perhaps not fully in it, because we cant keep having this swapping managers but players still not being motivated. Coaches have to motivate yes but if players can only be motivated for a short spell what's the point? Their obviously not hungry or have the desire to compete year in year out. Or to push to a higher level. BlueSunshine, Fernando and Supermonkey92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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