The Sarri Thread

[Clockwork 1,794]

I really don't get this thread at all, not sure why there is a critique of attacking football. You are out of your mind if you think we are playing attacking football. FFS Sari is playing our best attacking player out of position, justifying because it makes us defensively stronger. 

 

 

[kc_blue 265]

I don't think the goal of Sarri is possession.  At least not if we're talking about playing like Napoli did.  Possession comes but it's not a possession system like Barca play.  Our forwards just aren't making runs and we just aren't moving the ball fast enough so we wind up with this slow, plodding, boring possession game.  I am interested how we play against Arse this weekend.  Finally have a week between games.  Players should be more rested and hopefully get some time in practice to work on movement and combinations a bit.  We actually looked better at the beginning of the season and I think a big factor in that was being able to spend time on learning the system.  We just need to battle through the rest of this year and hope the board comes through with some players that fit the style Sarri wants to implement so we look more like the finished article next season.

[Jase 43,479]

27 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

I really don't get this thread at all, not sure why there is a critique of attacking football. You are out of your mind if you think we are playing attacking football. FFS Sari is playing our best attacking player out of position, justifying because it makes us defensively stronger. 

Shades of Mourinho there...

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/jose-mourinho-i-dropped-eden-hazard-against-aston-villa-because-chelsea-are-conceding-too-many-goals-a3092911.html

[dreamcfc 182]

32 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

I really don't get this thread at all, not sure why there is a critique of attacking football. You are out of your mind if you think we are playing attacking football. FFS Sari is playing our best attacking player out of position, justifying because it makes us defensively stronger. 

 

 

Yep. Since we got battered by Spurs I think he's took a more defensive approach and players are all stuck in shape just to keep possession , we talk about lack of movement etc, in my opinion this is not just on the players, its that they are required to be available for the next pass, only Hazard has shown signs of taking it on himself to come and get the ball and make something happen but when he does this as a false 9 it leaves nothing in the box.

We have gone backwards since the first few games which looked really promising even though we were really vulnerable.

[DDA 9,938]

 

Just watch. When do you see anyone in our team moving like that?? Except from Kante and maybe Pedro. 

Sarri made them play like that. 

Each of those players have sound technical ability and can see a pass with the first time ball.

We have Broccoli head dilly dallying on the ball for hours and Ross Barkley ffs.

You can see shades of SarriBall from the back at Chels but it's our attck that isn't replicating what Sarri don at Napoli. 

We just don't have the players. End of.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

That's it. If don't have the players and it's not working then needs to be changed to something that is. Can't keep trying. There's just no pace at the moment. Up front is just dire. 

[Tomo 21,751]

7 minutes ago, DDA said:

 

Just watch. When do you see anyone in our team moving like that?? Except from Kante and maybe Pedro. 

Sarri made them play like that. 

Each of those players have sound technical ability and can see a pass with the first time ball.

We have Broccoli head dilly dallying on the ball for hours and Ross Barkley ffs.

You can see shades of SarriBall from the back at Chels but it's our attck that isn't replicating what Sarri don at Napoli. 

We just don't have the players. End of.

I remember that move playing out of the back against Caglari (starting at 1:30) was posted here a few years ago and it was followed up by about 3 pages of green eyed monster posts wishing we could do that and now we can it's barely even getting a mention.

[DDA 9,938]

20 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I remember that move playing out of the back against Caglari (starting at 1:30) was posted here a few years ago and it was followed up by about 3 pages of green eyed monster posts wishing we could do that and now we can it's barely even getting a mention.

A long time ago I came to accept that Chelsea fans are hard to please. I even put myself into that bracket but I know when we are onto something great. I really do believe given the time, Sarri will produce wonders at The Bridge. Football has become such a fast paced entertainment these days. The sacking of managers. The buying and selling of players from club to club. Even enjoying the year when you win the title doesn't last long, it feels like the next season is straight upon us and the year before is a distant memory. So i understand why there is a lack of patience from the fans but It doesn't mean it isn't frustrating to watch.

[communicate 2,703]

3 hours ago, DDA said:

 

Just watch. When do you see anyone in our team moving like that?? Except from Kante and maybe Pedro. 

Sarri made them play like that. 

Each of those players have sound technical ability and can see a pass with the first time ball.

We have Broccoli head dilly dallying on the ball for hours and Ross Barkley ffs.

You can see shades of SarriBall from the back at Chels but it's our attck that isn't replicating what Sarri don at Napoli. 

We just don't have the players. End of.

Damn watching video, our play is very2 similar. It is watching us play this season 

[kellzfresh 7,229]

3 hours ago, DDA said:

 

Just watch. When do you see anyone in our team moving like that?? Except from Kante and maybe Pedro. 

Sarri made them play like that. 

Each of those players have sound technical ability and can see a pass with the first time ball.

We have Broccoli head dilly dallying on the ball for hours and Ross Barkley ffs.

You can see shades of SarriBall from the back at Chels but it's our attck that isn't replicating what Sarri don at Napoli. 

We just don't have the players. End of.

Look at the speed of play, look at the runs off the ball, pass and move, first time passes. We never do that here, everyone wants the ball to feet and holds it for 10 minutes and no one wants to make some effort (runs) off the ball

[kellzfresh 7,229]

3 hours ago, DDA said:

 

Just watch. When do you see anyone in our team moving like that?? Except from Kante and maybe Pedro. 

Sarri made them play like that. 

Each of those players have sound technical ability and can see a pass with the first time ball.

We have Broccoli head dilly dallying on the ball for hours and Ross Barkley ffs.

You can see shades of SarriBall from the back at Chels but it's our attck that isn't replicating what Sarri don at Napoli. 

We just don't have the players. End of.

Look at the speed of play, look at the runs off the ball, pass and move, first time passes. We never do that here, everyone wants the ball to feet and holds it for 10 minutes and no one wants to make some effort (runs) off the ball

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

31 minutes ago, kellzfresh said:

Look at the speed of play, look at the runs off the ball, pass and move, first time passes. We never do that here, everyone wants the ball to feet and holds it for 10 minutes and no one wants to make some effort (runs) off the ball

It's the 3rd man runs, the ball goes back then forward again quickly.  We started doing that in the build up, but never in the final 3rd, or even rarely even in the offensive half.  I'm confident that this will come, but if no one makes runs, the whole team looks stagnant. 

I'm not sure when everyone started getting so negative, I thought everyone was in agreement that our goal was top 4 and hopefully we could achieve that even though it's a transition season and it was going to take time.

[kc_blue 265]

1 hour ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

I'm not sure when everyone started getting so negative, I thought everyone was in agreement that our goal was top 4 and hopefully we could achieve that even though it's a transition season and it was going to take time.

We seem, as a fanbase to be a bit Jekyll and Hyde.  At the start of the season it was going to turn out like AVB and Scolari and then when we get solid defensively now we're boring.  The play hasn't been what I like to watch lately but we're still on course for what we were looking for before the season started.  I hope the board can make another signing or two this window and we can consolidate our position and then try to move forward in the summer.  It will likely still be another 2 or 3 transfer windows to clear our players who don't fit and get better in, but next season should be much better to watch.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

4 minutes ago, kc_blue said:

We seem, as a fanbase to be a bit Jekyll and Hyde.  At the start of the season it was going to turn out like AVB and Scolari and then when we get solid defensively now we're boring.  The play hasn't been what I like to watch lately but we're still on course for what we were looking for before the season started.  I hope the board can make another signing or two this window and we can consolidate our position and then try to move forward in the summer.  It will likely still be another 2 or 3 transfer windows to clear our players who don't fit and get better in, but next season should be much better to watch.

It's as Kellfresh said, no one is making runs off the ball.  It's going to look like this stale LVG style game until we start linking up as a team.  

[kc_blue 265]

Our forwards need to move and create space.  Not sure there's much we can do for the rest of this season, it just doesn't seem like our front three are comfortable playing that way.  They seem to like the ball into their feet and then to hold onto it.  

[Vesper 30,172]

6 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

It's as Kellfresh said, no one is making runs off the ball.  It's going to look like this stale LVG style game until we start linking up as a team.  

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

1 minute ago, kc_blue said:

Our forwards need to move and create space.  Not sure there's much we can do for the rest of this season, it just doesn't seem like our front three are comfortable playing that way.  They seem to like the ball into their feet and then to hold onto it.  

Hazard and Willian, yes.  Pedro knows what to do, IMO.  Unfortunately, he's the only one making runs.  We're also kind of playing without a striker.  But, having 2 of the 3 like to come deep to collect the ball is not leading to goals, that's for sure.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

3 minutes ago, Vesper said:

That was classic.  I actually give LVG some credit for that.  

[Miguelito 459]

Shades of Mourinho there...

[mention=14189] clockwork[/mention]. The difference is that Sarri distinctly said that it makes us better defensively but not worse offensively. Mou just wanted the solidilty defensively and that's it. There's a massive difference there. Pep also said after we beat them that having Willian and Pedro on the wings made it harder for them to find space. So does Pep have shades of Mourinho.

 

What Sarri said was true. And we aren't worse attacking wise because of it with the current options.

 

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[Jase 43,479]

59 minutes ago, Miguelito said:

8 hours ago, Jason said:

Shades of Mourinho there...

[mention=14189] clockwork[/mention]. The difference is that Sarri distinctly said that it makes us better defensively but not worse offensively. Mou just wanted the solidilty defensively and that's it. There's a massive difference there. Pep also said after we beat them that having Willian and Pedro on the wings made it harder for them to find space. So does Pep have shades of Mourinho.

 

What Sarri said was true. And we aren't worse attacking wise because of it with the current options.

 

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Massive difference? Both Mourinho and Sarri basically felt we're better off defensively without Hazard on the wings and are we really not worse off offensively under Sarri? We are pretty much playing arguably the best player in the team out of position and have looked extremely clueless upfront, with Hazard not exactly producing a great deal as the False 9.