Anthony Martial

[El P. 1,354]

If he would push for transfer, we could get him without including Willy in deal, why not? But we should really sell Pedro. He is not bad, it's just, Willian is more valuable.

[Unionjack 7,531]

How do we feel about him after yesterdays performance?

[Fulham Broadway 16,392]

1 hour ago, Unionjack said:

How do we feel about him after yesterdays performance?

Before yesterday my view was no, no, no.

[Unionjack 7,531]

On 05/05/2018 at 6:59 PM, Fulham Broadway said:

Before yesterday my view was no, no, no.

Wont happen. Willi is happy here. He feels at home. WANTS to be Chelsea!!! We dont have many like that. And the lads had a pretty good season really. 10 goals 14 assists. I like him.

Willian: Wins breed confidence

http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2018/05/willian--wins-breed-confidence.html

Not saying I'm not open to a proper upgrade tho. Just hate seeing players that truly love us being got shot of. Felt similar about Schurrle.

And can see Mou being Mou if he cant get his own way

Jose Mourinho accepts Chelsea interest in Anthony Martial but gives one condition for Blues to complete forward signing

http://www.chelsea-news.co/2018/05/jose-mourinho-accepts-chelsea-interest-anthony-martial-gives-one-condition-blues-complete-forward-signing/

[The Skipper 20,593]

On 01/05/2018 at 2:02 PM, manpe said:

I can only see them selling him to us if we give them Willian. Are we prepared to do that?

As long as we replace accordingly l think it’d be fine. For example, a double swoop for Leon Bailey who we’re also linked with and Martial, coming in to replace Pedro and Willian? I’d take that. 

[manpe 10,855]

As long as we replace accordingly l think it’d be fine. For example, a double swoop for Leon Bailey who were also linked with and Martial, coming in to replace Pedro and Willian? I’d take that. 

Hazard, Bailey, Martial in the same team is porn - not realistic, but fun to fantasize about.

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[LAM09 6,547]

1 hour ago, manpe said:

Hazard, Bailey, Martial in the same team is porn - not realistic, but fun to fantasize about.

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I think it's more than obtainable, if Mou really wants Willian. Swap him for the latter and pick up Bailey for £25-35m

[manpe 10,855]

2 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I think it's more than obtainable, if Mou really wants Willian. Swap him for the latter and pick up Bailey for £25-35m

Bailey's contract runs until 2022, clubs will have seen us pay 35-40m for Drinkayoko and will make no discounts for actual players. Not going for under 50m and we sure as hell are not going to pay that.

[LAM09 6,547]

Bailey's contract runs until 2022, clubs will have seen us pay 35-40m for Drinkayoko and will make no discounts for actual players. Not going for under 50m and we sure as hell are not going to pay that.

We better look elsewhere then

[Fulham Broadway 16,392]

7 hours ago, Unionjack said:

Wont happen. Willi is happy here. He feels at home. WANTS to be Chelsea!!! We dont have many like that. And the lads had a pretty good season really. 10 goals 14 assists. I like him.

Willian: Wins breed confidence

http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2018/05/willian--wins-breed-confidence.html

Not saying I'm not open to a proper upgrade tho. Just hate seeing players that truly love us being got shot of. Felt similar about Schurrle.

And can see Mou being Mou if he cant get his own way

Jose Mourinho accepts Chelsea interest in Anthony Martial but gives one condition for Blues to complete forward signing

http://www.chelsea-news.co/2018/05/jose-mourinho-accepts-chelsea-interest-anthony-martial-gives-one-condition-blues-complete-forward-signing/

If the board offload Willian for Martial -you know then they've reached a new low of stupidfuckingcuntism

[Unionjack 7,531]

1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

If the board offload Willian for Martial -you know then they've reached a new low of stupidfuckingcuntism

I know a few with that disease. Most live in north London.

[manpe 10,855]

Getting Martial wouldn't necessarily improve us, but giving them Willian would definitely improve United as they are desperate for a RW. Martial is also like a wildcard, he seems to sulk a lot and may not fulfill his potential with us either. Wouldn't mind him here, but I don't like the idea of fixing Utd's pressing needs by giving them our players.

[robsblubot 3,222]

I hear you, but this is how you do it. This is how you get the top players: before they become one.

It's always going to be a risk though. That's why judging potential is so important, and folks in soccer who are good at that make tons of money.

[DYC. 7,542]

Keep Willian. Buy Martial.

The point is to make the team stronger.

Put them on the flanks, Hazard at #10 and Morata up top.

[OneMoSalah 8,614]

4 hours ago, DYC. said:

Keep Willian. Buy Martial.

The point is to make the team stronger.

Put them on the flanks, Hazard at #10 and Morata up top.

Exactly.

It’s probably worth mentioning as well Martial is a calculated gamble. He’s struggled for consistency for almost 2 seasons now in terms of his performances but has scored 10 goals every season since being in England. It’s not as straightforward to sell William and for Martial to come in and be better as many seem to think. Even bits of that season under van Gaal he was hit and miss so it’s not exactly only Mourinho related before it’s brought up. He has huge potential but it is only potential. Somethings not clicked properly (Sanchez signing didn’t help but affecting Rashford as well) or we wouldn’t be talking about signing him as he’d be in the United team and they’d not be willing to consider letting him go too easily. 

He would be a good signing if he was somewhere between 30-40m because of his age, potential but again Leon Bailey is another player I really like and if we get him or Martial they will be huge players for us in the future although Willian shouldn’t be sacrificed for either.

[DYC. 7,542]

8 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Exactly.

It’s probably worth mentioning as well Martial is a calculated gamble. He’s struggled for consistency for almost 2 seasons now in terms of his performances but has scored 10 goals every season since being in England. It’s not as straightforward to sell William and for Martial to come in and be better as many seem to think. Even bits of that season under van Gaal he was hit and miss so it’s not exactly only Mourinho related before it’s brought up. He has huge potential but it is only potential. Somethings not clicked properly (Sanchez signing didn’t help but affecting Rashford as well) or we wouldn’t be talking about signing him as he’d be in the United team and they’d not be willing to consider letting him go too easily. 

He would be a good signing if he was somewhere between 30-40m because of his age, potential but again Leon Bailey is another player I really like and if we get him or Martial they will be huge players for us in the future although Willian shouldn’t be sacrificed for either.

Chels should get both. Bailey is not ready to start for Chels week in, week out. But he could take over for Willian in two years if he continues to develop. 

[OhForAGreavsie 5,775]

10 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Exactly.

It’s probably worth mentioning as well Martial is a calculated gamble. He’s struggled for consistency for almost 2 seasons now in terms of his performances but has scored 10 goals every season since being in England. It’s not as straightforward to sell William and for Martial to come in and be better as many seem to think. Even bits of that season under van Gaal he was hit and miss so it’s not exactly only Mourinho related before it’s brought up. He has huge potential but it is only potential. Somethings not clicked properly (Sanchez signing didn’t help but affecting Rashford as well) or we wouldn’t be talking about signing him as he’d be in the United team and they’d not be willing to consider letting him go too easily. 

He would be a good signing if he was somewhere between 30-40m because of his age, potential but again Leon Bailey is another player I really like and if we get him or Martial they will be huge players for us in the future although Willian shouldn’t be sacrificed for either.

That sums up the two ninety minute performances in which I watched him very closely before he joined united. He was great in one and poor in the other. Has he done enough since to get excited about? Not enough for me, no. Throw in that his preferred areas of operation seem to be those in which both Eden and Callum Hudson-Odoi like to function, and I'd say invest in someone else. I know all the usual caveats people would apply to Callum, but I'm confident he'll make it. There are flaws in his game but these are of the kind that can be coached. He sometimes believes too much in his ability and either tries more than he should, or else takes more time than he has. Meanwhile, the things which can't be coached; talent and football instinct, he has in abundance.

From comments Jody Morris has made it's clear the coaches are going to work on this issue with Callum and it will be solved. He is the real deal; season after next he'll be ready to be a serious squad member, season after that he can start. Let's not block his path.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,775]

19 hours ago, The Skipper said:

As long as we replace accordingly l think it’d be fine. For example, a double swoop for Leon Bailey who were also linked with and Martial, coming in to replace Pedro and Willian? I’d take that. 

Not to mention that Jay Da Silva has won Charlton Fans' Player of The Season. Another season or two and he'll be ready to to be considered for us I think.