Anthony Martial

[Alabama 1,992]

Close this thread...it will not happen...Mourinho will not sell unless maybe willian is invooved in the deal...Marina better accept Barca 55m and invest it on Bailey...

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If Bayern are interested in Martial, I think he'll end up going there tbh. Man Utd would not sell to us. It is what annoys me about the Matic/Mata/Lukaku situation, we sold them the former two players and indirectly gave them Lukaku. 

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

2 minutes ago, It's too big said:

But where would he play? Sanchez plays on the LW, so he can't play there. He is nowhere near as effective on the right side of a front three attack. Unless Jose would have other plans for Willian, which I doubt. He would end up playing in the same position he's played here. Barcelona want him to play on the LW so he can cut in with his right foot, where he's more effective. 

I don't disagree with you.  If he went to Utd, he'd be on the right, for sure.  That's where Jose used him before.  He'd do better at Barcelona, and I'd rather see him at Barcelona than Utd, but I think the hold up there is that we've got 2 clubs (with money) interested in him.

It's my only guess as to why we haven't taken 60M from Barcelona for him.

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54 minutes ago, It's too big said:

If Bayern are interested in Martial, I think he'll end up going there tbh. Man Utd would not sell to us. It is what annoys me about the Matic/Mata/Lukaku situation, we sold them the former two players and indirectly gave them Lukaku. 

Utd will sell to us if Willian in the deal 

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2 hours ago, It's too big said:

Has Martial even played as a striker before? Did he play there at Monaco? 

He was primarily a CF at Monaco. That is where he played majority of games for them. When United signed him, they also initially played him upfront and he started off with a bang. He eventually was shifted over to the LW. He defo is best as a LW but he can play and score up front.

[Unionjack 7,531]

5 hours ago, It's too big said:

If Bayern are interested in Martial, I think he'll end up going there tbh. Man Utd would not sell to us. It is what annoys me about the Matic/Mata/Lukaku situation, we sold them the former two players and indirectly gave them Lukaku. 

Because we are twats without any foresight sometime and they dont want to strengthen our team.

[Thor 2,689]

I honestly feel he would be deadly up front for us given the kind of direction we want to head in. 

Lethal finisher, and absolutely lethal dribbler. I haven't seen much of his passing game to be honest, but a player this skilled, I don't think it'd be hard for him to get a groove in the 1-2 touch system. 

Not just that, he is as strong as an ox. 6 foot tall, agile, and an athlete. Wouldn't be surprised if he developed a decent header given his physical gifts if he played up front. 

 

Really feel this would be a big opportunity missed. He has got all the tools Mbappe has. 

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6 minutes ago, Thor said:

I honestly feel he would be deadly up front for us given the kind of direction we want to head in. 

Lethal finisher, and absolutely lethal dribbler. I haven't seen much of his passing game to be honest, but a player this skilled, I don't think it'd be hard for him to get a groove in the 1-2 touch system. 

Not just that, he is as strong as an ox. 6 foot tall, agile, and an athlete. Wouldn't be surprised if he developed a decent header given his physical gifts if he played up front. 

 

Really feel this would be a big opportunity missed. He has got all the tools Mbappe has. 

I THINK that the main thing stopping US getting him (apart from not knowing if we are even looking at him) is Mou

We know his pride. And how hes been made to look like a cunt in various ways. Getting rid of future very good players and then working with and signing a couple of said players being a good example

And him getting shot of Martial who is possibly another one of that example would just ve another reason he is known as a cunt.

I will go against my initial stomach rumblings and say we give them Willian, get Martial and make him world class.

Lets make Mou into a bigger cunt than he already is.

[Clockwork 1,794]

At a reasonable and discount price i would take a punt on him. But for the price being quoted i would clearly pass on him.

I feel i am seeing the same argument people made for Morata before we bought him, given proper opportunity that he can be an elite strike. People praised Morata for all of his abilities and attributes.  What good did that do when he never put it all together? A year later i am wondering why did we pay a club record fee for a player that best season came as a bench player. I was against Morata signing because i thought it was unjustifiable. And unfortunately I think Morata will get another year, people are going to be disappointed if they think he is going to be binned after one season. 

I feel i can make the same argument against Martial, despite his abilities i question if he has the mentality to reach elite level. It is unjust to pay a club record fee for a player that has never put it all together and it is struggling for playing time at his current club. 

 

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1 hour ago, Clockwork said:

At a reasonable and discount price i would take a punt on him. But for the price being quoted i would clearly pass on him.

I feel i am seeing the same argument people made for Morata before we bought him, given proper opportunity that he can be an elite strike. People praised Morata for all of his abilities and attributes.  What good did that do when he never put it all together? A year later i am wondering why did we pay a club record fee for a player that best season came as a bench player. I was against Morata signing because i thought it was unjustifiable. And unfortunately I think Morata will get another year, people are going to be disappointed if they think he is going to be binned after one season. 

I feel i can make the same argument against Martial, despite his abilities i question if he has the mentality to reach elite level. It is unjust to pay a club record fee for a player that has never put it all together and it is struggling for playing time at his current club. 

 

Morata scored more goals than Drogba did in his first season with us. Not to mention he was injured, down on confidence and struggling with fitness the whole season because of setbacks. 

One season doesn't prove anything. Just like how Salah isn't suddenly the best player alive, nor is he close. 

 

Martial hasn't even had any setbacks or stumbles really. He just hasn't even been given an opportunity. 

[Clockwork 1,794]

1 hour ago, Thor said:

Morata scored more goals than Drogba did in his first season with us. Not to mention he was injured, down on confidence and struggling with fitness the whole season because of setbacks. 

One season doesn't prove anything. Just like how Salah isn't suddenly the best player alive, nor is he close. 

 

Martial hasn't even had any setbacks or stumbles really. He just hasn't even been given an opportunity. 

You know what really doesn't change is that we unjustifiably paid enormous price and risk for a player that has the same question mark as he did before we purchased him. Confidence and mental issue is the same question mark Juventus and Real Madrid had. If somehow Sarri makes him a serviceable striker, we would be quite lucky. Even though Conte was supposed to be the guy who would get the best out of him. 

One season? This season is preciously what Morata career has been like, some flashes of brilliance and long stretches of inconsistencies. This is who he is unless Sarri works his best work ever. At this point it is extremely wishful to think he comes good, i am rooting for him though. 

Whether you look to admit it or not Martial career has stagnated. I just watched him today, he looked like a complete scrub against MLS reserves.imo he ruined his body gained a lot of bad muscles, he is a lot slower than he was at Monaco and his PL debut season. 

Luckily i don't think the club is stupid enough to pay anywhere near United asking price, especially since his best position is where our best player plays at. If it wasn't for Conte we would have never paid the enormous price for Morata either. 

 

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49 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

, some flashes of brilliance and long stretches of inconsistencies.

I know I will have to get the CS and tazer out but that is how I see Eden. Theres games where its pointless him even being on the pitch.

Yet there are times when you couldn't stop him with a tranq gun.

Its very hard to keep these type oh players motivated. And at their ages its doubtful they will change If I knew how to I'd be a rich man.

I think the question is do we keep these players and hope they contribute enough when they are on form?