Alabama 1,992 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, manpe said: They just proved they are and they are also proving it in the table. It doesn't matter at all that on paper we could be better (even that is arguable, their midfield and attack shits on us), what matters is that we are not. I know acceptance is hard, but we are not Spurs or Liverpool level, they have overtaken us by some distance. Shambles. lol.. I guess u are watching another game.... first half their only shot on target went straight in thanks to caballero howler... they lost d ball countless times in dangerous position... Enough space in wide areas....quality wingbacks in lieu of Alonso and Moses we should be 3 up before half time... Second half we just decided to watch them play...even at that they ain't anything better till d moment we gifted them d two goals... Dembele and Lamela shouldn't end the game... Vertoghen as well despite d fact that they are still ahead of us.... Don't get me started on d league positions...we lost to fucking Bournemouth and Watford.... We don't deserve any position in top 4 losing to those Pisa poor opponents... The moment Emerson came on...u can see how dangerous and energetic the left flank was.... Everybody to his/her opinion but butressing your opinion on league position I won't accept that... Then conte lemme me not delve into that aspect now cos he single handedly ruined d whole season himself putting us in the mess we are now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 We have Christiansen and rudiger as our main defenders for crying out, of course we are not very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 29 minutes ago, cosmicway said: I don't know about Courtois. Begovitch was fine and Caballero is a good keeper. With your logic we are going to lose Hazard anyway because he will become 30. Overall transferwise we resemble a club in economic crisis. Nothing to do with logic. I said the board either need to strip it down and rebuild properly over the bext couple of seasons and likely lose a couple of our best players to boot who aren't prepared to lose a couple of seasons in transition or we spend some serious money buying 3 or 4 top drawer players to go along with the best players we already have to try and compete again. If we continue how we have been trying to plug gaps and band aid things we'll continue this gross inconsistency that has plagued us over the last 3-4 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Morata has been so disappointing this season also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, eemanyooel said: lol.. I guess u are watching another game.... first half their only shot on target went straight in thanks to caballero howler... they lost d ball countless times in dangerous position... Enough space in wide areas....quality wingbacks in lieu of Alonso and Moses we should be 3 up before half time... Second half we just decided to watch them play...even at that they ain't anything better till d moment we gifted them d two goals... Dembele and Lamela shouldn't end the game... Vertoghen as well despite d fact that they are still ahead of us.... Don't get me started on d league positions...we lost to fucking Bournemouth and Watford.... We don't deserve any position in top 4 losing to those Pisa poor opponents... The moment Emerson came on...u can see how dangerous and energetic the left flank was.... Everybody to his/her opinion but butressing your opinion on league position I won't accept that... Then conte lemme me not delve into that aspect now cos he single handedly ruined d whole season himself putting us in the mess we are now..... Erikson's goal was not a Caballero howler, the ball went high and dipped. We did indeed outplay them for 45.5 minutes in the first half and should have been 2-0 up. In the 2nd half we did not turn up. Even before the 2-1 they were the only team in the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, eemanyooel said: lol.. I guess u are watching another game.... first half their only shot on target went straight in thanks to caballero howler... they lost d ball countless times in dangerous position... Enough space in wide areas....quality wingbacks in lieu of Alonso and Moses we should be 3 up before half time... Second half we just decided to watch them play...even at that they ain't anything better till d moment we gifted them d two goals... Dembele and Lamela shouldn't end the game... Vertoghen as well despite d fact that they are still ahead of us.... Don't get me started on d league positions...we lost to fucking Bournemouth and Watford.... We don't deserve any position in top 4 losing to those Pisa poor opponents... The moment Emerson came on...u can see how dangerous and energetic the left flank was.... Everybody to his/her opinion but butressing your opinion on league position I won't accept that... Then conte lemme me not delve into that aspect now cos he single handedly ruined d whole season himself putting us in the mess we are now..... No, I was watching the same game and playing slightly better for a part of the game means shit. Everything you said is how we could have been better if we did or did not do this or that, but we weren't and have not been. Fact is Caballero is part of our team and he let that howler happen, we didn't punish them for their mistakes and we let them punish ours like has been the story of our season game after game. My point stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Yes spurs are a better team, even Stevie wonder can see that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, cosmicway said: Erikson's goal was not a Caballero howler, the ball went high and dipped. We did indeed outplay them for 45.5 minutes in the first half and should have been 2-0 up. In the 2nd half we did not turn up. Even before the 2-1 they were the only team in the pitch. how can we turn up when u know guys like Moses and Alonso has next to nothing of football intelligence....theur goal was caballero howler... My son who is not a footballer lol... will save that... Even at their lead they keep making dangerous tackles up and down...cant conte play 433 or even try Emerson from d start... Looking at his brief cameo he was very impressive...i repeat again two quality wingbacks instead of those clowns we should be bossing d game even before half time... See acres of space spurs concede to is in wide areas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Alonso Moses rudiger, Christiansen, bakayoko are not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, eemanyooel said: how can we turn up when u know guys like Moses and Alonso has next to nothing of football intelligence....theur goal was caballero howler... My son who is not a footballer lol... will save that... Even at their lead they keep making dangerous tackles up and down...cant conte play 433 or even try Emerson from d start... Looking at his brief cameo he was very impressive...i repeat again two quality wingbacks instead of those clowns we should be bossing d game even before half time... See acres of space spurs concede to is in wide areas... Only if he was out of position can you call it a howler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Just now, mannyfreshh said: Alonso Moses rudiger, Christiansen, bakayoko are not good enough Rudiger had an ok game. He actually isn't a bad player. The rest though.. big questions are being asked of their ability. The mentality of every single player bar Azpi can be questioned too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, cosmicway said: Only if he was out of position can you call it a howler. The shot was impressive, but saveable with fingertips. He didn't even raise his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Superblue 6,372 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, mannyfreshh said: Alonso Moses rudiger, Christiansen, bakayoko are not good enough For me Christensen is extremely talented but still young and raw. Recent weeks have shown he needs time and patience like any young player because they will go through spells of inconsistent performances. Rudiger has steadily improved and probably been the only player we brought in the summer to take real credit. They have both shown more than enough to persevere with as they should both get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Another not surprising defeat and another record broken at Bridge... such an incompetent lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Defenders improve with experience - unlike forwards who shine from the beginning if they are good enough. So let's be hopeful about Christensen and Rudiger. For me Alonso-Moses have had it. Cesc-Azpi-Pedro are getting old. Baka and Morata, well. Drinkwater, Barkley are small fry and Giroud is not the man to answer any problems by the looks of it (looks like a Falcao case). That's a big list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,144 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Devastating result but the result represents the gap in quality. They have an identity and know how to play and hard to say but they are on another level to us right now. Although Azpi, Christensen and Rudiger are good defenders, when they all play in one defence, there is a lack of physicality and can be bullied easily by other teams. They are quite on the lightweight side. Espec Azpi and Christensen. You just think what would have been, if Moses had cleared that ball to Willian but he fucked up and Spurs took over from there. It is worrying though how we play well against bigger teams for about half hour then completely get undone. Arsenal, United, Spurs, Roma... the team just seems to lack the sharpness over 90 mins. This loss has all but diminished any hope of us getting into top 4, however it is the results against much inferior teams that have let us down and has given us virtually no chance of reaching the top 4. So much work needs to be done over the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 28 years.... Guess had to end at some point but really?! Listening to it on the radio was painful.. Spurs have stepped up a lot unfortunately. Think when they lost the league before it was predicted that was that. Except they keep going and and now way above us. All changed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 It's true. We often collapse in the 2nd half. Running off the ball and man to man marking are the things to observe. When missing it's the prelude to collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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