Ross Barkley

[the wes 7,212]

Chelsea are prepared to battle it out with Tottenham for the signing of Ross Barkley, The Telegraph reports.

[Pizy 18,858]

What use would we have for Barkley if we sign Drinkwater? Seems like it should be one or the other.

[Marvin123 530]

Spurs to face competition from Chelsea in £20m bid for Ross Barkley
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[Blusan Alamb 295]

Koeman says Everton don't have "any offer on the table" for Ross Barkley #cfc #thfc #efc

[Blusan Alamb 295]

We could use the Diego Costa loan deal to get Barkley.

[Polo7 3,496]

24 minutes ago, Blusan Alamb said:

We could use the Diego Costa loan deal to get Barkley.

What??? We arent loaning Costa. We are selling to A.Madrid who are then loaning to Everton as they cant add him to their squad.

[Chelsea? 892]

2 minutes ago, Polo7 said:

What??? We arent loaning Costa. We are selling to A.Madrid who are then loaning to Everton as they cant add him to their squad.

Atletico can't loan him apparently. So the loan has to be from us

[Jype 6,398]

52 minutes ago, Chelsea? said:

Atletico can't loan him apparently. So the loan has to be from us

Atletico managed to loan Vitolo to Las Palmas just fine, so why couldn't they do the same with Costa?

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Im completely lost why would we need Barkley?

If we are signing Ox and Drinkwater, plus Cahill and few youth players, we have more than enough english players. 

Why the hell will we spend 30m on average player when we can eventualy get RLC, Baker and Palmer back. 

This club would now spend 100m+ on Ox, Drinkwater and Barkley, but neither improves our squad apart from depth. 

Fucking idiotic. Meanwhile even Pool is buying Keita and Lemar, while also buying english player in Solanke, except they paid just few millions on him. 

[lucio 5,418]

4 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Im completely lost why would we need Barkley?

If we are signing Ox and Drinkwater, plus Cahill and few youth players, we have more than enough english players. 

Why the hell will we spend 30m on average player when we can eventualy get RLC, Baker and Palmer back. 

This club would now spend 100m+ on Ox, Drinkwater and Barkley, but neither improves our squad apart from depth. 

Fucking idiotic. Meanwhile even Pool is buying Keita and Lemar, while also buying english player in Solanke, except they paid just few millions on him. 

arguably we could use someone of his ilk, who can attract 2-3 defenders and dribble, this is more evident when hazard is out

[bluesman2610 1,416]

1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

Im completely lost why would we need Barkley?

If we are signing Ox and Drinkwater, plus Cahill and few youth players, we have more than enough english players. 

Why the hell will we spend 30m on average player when we can eventualy get RLC, Baker and Palmer back. 

This club would now spend 100m+ on Ox, Drinkwater and Barkley, but neither improves our squad apart from depth. 

Fucking idiotic. Meanwhile even Pool is buying Keita and Lemar, while also buying english player in Solanke, except they paid just few millions on him. 

Pool also has more English players in their team so they can afford to buy foreign players out team however is made up of foreign players with little to no englishmen. We went from being bale to send the most or second most english players away with national side to having one player in the team, that is kind of disgraceful. Now I'm not saying to have average English players in the team just so we contribute but Ox and Barkley I feel have a future in 3 Lions set up if they hit their potential both currently need a change of scenery

[AK-3001 286]

5 hours ago, bluesman2610 said:

Pool also has more English players in their team so they can afford to buy foreign players out team however is made up of foreign players with little to no englishmen. We went from being bale to send the most or second most english players away with national side to having one player in the team, that is kind of disgraceful. Now I'm not saying to have average English players in the team just so we contribute but Ox and Barkley I feel have a future in 3 Lions set up if they hit their potential both currently need a change of scenery

Homegrowns don't need to be Englishmen. 

 

At this moment, our HG players are Fabregas, Moses and Cahill. If we sign Ox and Drinkwater, that takes the number to 5. Which is very healthy.

 

In the PL, a club has to have not more than 17 Non HomeGrown players. Club needs to have at least 4 HG players and the rest 4 can be covered by U-21 players if the club doesn't have more than 4 HG players. Our U21 this season are Kenedy, Musonda and Christensen at the moment.

 

All in all, we have a very healthy squad balance in that sense. 

 

 

It doesn't matter if we don't have a player from England or have only one. That tells us more about the National Team than our squad to be honest.

[bluesman2610 1,416]

1 hour ago, AK-3001 said:

Homegrowns don't need to be Englishmen. 

 

At this moment, our HG players are Fabregas, Moses and Cahill. If we sign Ox and Drinkwater, that takes the number to 5. Which is very healthy.

 

In the PL, a club has to have not more than 17 Non HomeGrown players. Club needs to have at least 4 HG players and the rest 4 can be covered by U-21 players if the club doesn't have more than 4 HG players. Our U21 this season are Kenedy, Musonda and Christensen at the moment.

 

All in all, we have a very healthy squad balance in that sense. 

 

 

It doesn't matter if we don't have a player from England or have only one. That tells us more about the National Team than our squad to be honest.

I'm well aware of what constitutes homegrown vs Englishmen - my point in there was a time when Chelsea had at least 4 players in the England first 11 and that was something to be proud of because when they did well it reflected well on Chelsea . Sorry that i'd like one of the top clubs in England to have a few more Englishmen in the team contributing to the national team. I get that Chelsea is a diverse team always has been especially after Mourinho but in terms of improving that National side of the club we support if Gary Cahill is our only representation that is embarrassing and if you can't see that oh well. But thank you for the discussion

[OhForAGreavsie 6,058]

11 hours ago, Blusan Alamb said:

We could use the Diego Costa loan deal to get Barkley.

Leaving aside Diego's situation, that would have to start with us actually wanting Barkley. Ronald Koeman's comment, quoted above, gives me hope that in fact we don't. Unless we've decided, for tactical reasons, to place our bid on deadline day. 

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1 hour ago, bluesman2610 said:

I'm well aware of what constitutes homegrown vs Englishmen - my point in there was a time when Chelsea had at least 4 players in the England first 11 and that was something to be proud of because when they did well it reflected well on Chelsea . Sorry that i'd like one of the top clubs in England to have a few more Englishmen in the team contributing to the national team. I get that Chelsea is a diverse team always has been especially after Mourinho but in terms of improving that National side of the club we support if Gary Cahill is our only representation that is embarrassing and if you can't see that oh well. But thank you for the discussion

Even before Mourinho, Chelsea were a continental team. I am okay with a spine without English players. Times have changed and signing good English players is tough now. Look at our pursuits of Shaw, Stones who were young prospects, not even established players.