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Just now, Mana said:

I don't think he had a fantastic game today. Sure, decent first half (finally he scored a 1v1 chance) but the second? Below par. I can't think of any impact he did in the second half.

Yeah I'd agree, but for his 75 minutes he did well. 

Second half he wasn't great but he didn't have any clear cut opportunities and I think we took the foot off the gas a bit but still, like I said, room for improvement, had a decent effort from outside the box saved by Cech (anyone who watched him at Madrid know what he can capable of from 20 yards out so hopefully see a bit more of that too). Newcastle next in the league I believe? So hopefully see something similar if not better, I think it will build his confidence. 

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20 minutes ago, Mana said:

I don't think he had a fantastic game today. Sure, decent first half (finally he scored a 1v1 chance) but the second? Below par. I can't think of any impact he did in the second half.

He needs to up his game throughout.

Second half was different because Arsenal packed the box and Cech had upped his game.

Honestly, when we went into half time at 2-2, I could see that happening, and never really thought we could get anything more, if not for a bit of magic from Hazard.

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27 minutes ago, Mana said:

I don't think he had a fantastic game today. Sure, decent first half (finally he scored a 1v1 chance) but the second? Below par. I can't think of any impact he did in the second half.

He needs to up his game throughout.

 

24 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Yeah I'd agree, but for his 75 minutes he did well. 

Second half he wasn't great but he didn't have any clear cut opportunities and I think we took the foot off the gas a bit but still, like I said, room for improvement, had a decent effort from outside the box saved by Cech (anyone who watched him at Madrid know what he can capable of from 20 yards out so hopefully see a bit more of that too). Newcastle next in the league I believe? So hopefully see something similar if not better, I think it will build his confidence. 

He was great in the first half because we utilized his strengths - pace and skill - against that high defensive line. Second half wasn't that great because Arsenal dropped deeper to limit the space and we kept playing balls onto his feet, which we know isn't going to work out well at this point, against physical defenders. No doubt he needs to improve obviously. 

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Álvaro Morata: ‘I want to change things, not for the haters, but for Chelsea’

“For me, it’s easy. I could have gone back to Spain or Italy, all the people believe in me there, but I want to change things here,” he said. “I want to, not for all the haters, but for me and for Chelsea. Chelsea gave me everything that I needed and now I have time to give back all that Chelsea give me.

“The most important thing is the way we play. Last season it was direct balls and for me to protect the ball in the air is not my best quality. Now I can attack the space, I can play one touch and go in the area for the crosses. It’s better for me.”

Morata is enthused by the success Sarri had with the likes of Gonzalo Higuaín, Dries Mertens and Lorenzo Insigne at Napoli and feels confident that under the 59‑year‑old’s guidance he too can become a consistently potent centre-forward. “He [Sarri] works with the ball always and when you always have the ball the strikers have more chances,” Morata said. “I want to score more than 30 goals, but I would prefer to score 15 or 20 and get the Premier League or one big trophy.”

Morata also seems keen to lay down roots, having regularly been on the move during a career that has also taken in a spell at Juventus. He spoke of “looking forward to buying a house” and how he can’t wait for his “babies to grow up and to put them in school”. That kind of talk hardly helps Morata shed his polite guy image but, equally, it reflects a level of determination on the part of the Spain forward. He is here to stay and we had all better get used to it.

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If I had a job in this club, I would do everything to buy a good striker. How can they start a season with Morata as our main striker?! It's like starting the season with Robert Green as our main goalkeeper.

A player like Morata should be chelsea's third striker, not first.

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He's a player that feeds a lot on confidence. I wouldn't be surprised if he scored next game. The downside is that when he's low on it, it gets to his head. It's odd to say because he's 25 but he lacks the experience to handle the bad patches. Prior to last season, he never started regularly at pro level so he never had to go through that.

Personally, I haven't given up on him. He's way too talented not to be given a chance.

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25 minutes ago, Special said:

If I had a job in this club, I would do everything to buy a good striker. How can they start a season with Morata as our main striker?! It's like starting the season with Robert Green as our main goalkeeper.

A player like Morata should be chelsea's third striker, not first.

Who exactly do you suggest?

We tried to do a swap deal with Manure for Martial (and use him as the number 9 he actually is going back to Monaco days) and failed.

We had a 2 week window to pay only £98m for icardi, from July 1 to July 15th, and failed.

Lewandowski is 30yo in 24 hours, and would have been close to £100m, plus, like Higuain (31 in a couple months) we do NOT give multiyear contracts to 30 somethings.

RB Leipzig was talking £100m plus for the unproven (IMHO) Timo Werner and ALSO saying not for sale even then.

Andrea Belotti had a really regressive, bad year last year and Torino refused all offers to all clubs anyway, plus he doesn't want to leave atm.

Ciro Immobile will be 30 in middle of next season,and Lazio dont  want to sell, unless they get close to SMS money (say 125 to 130m euros) which is madness

Thats it

There are no more top quality strikers who are even remotely available under 30

Balotelli on a free? Thats about all we could do with a shut window anyway,

Icardi and then Martial converted to striker were basically IT, and we fucked them both usp

It isnt going to change next window, unless you think Roman will drop the £300m it will take to pull Mbappe from PSG. Over the last 14 yeas, he has spent less than £490m net TOTAL An average of £5m per year. The ONLY years heever spent big were his first 2. Thats it.

In 2 of the last 14 years we actually turned a profit on transfers, meaning we sold more than we brought in, in this case both incoming and sales were shit.

 Several other years we spent like £2m, £7m net total This year will be one of the higher ones ever, and after more are sold of loaned out, it will be in £60m or so total

We either grab Icardi next summer, or Martial, or hope that Werner and/Belotti come good in a huge way and the board tosses the crazy money to one or the other that will be their price-tag after ascendant seasons.

Nothing else is going to work atm.

I could live with a £125m offer for Dybala, Juve will tell us to fuck off, OR string us along all window as they do EVERY WINDOW NOW. I dont see us dropping that kind of quid anyway.

We DO have another option (IF Morata doesnt finally play well from now on)

CHO as a nine

I can see it working, he is bigger and faster than Mertens

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Who exactly do you suggest?

We tried to do a swap deal with Manure for Martial (and use him as the number 9 he actually is going back to Monaco days) and failed.

We had a 2 week window to pay only £98m for icardi, from July 1 to July 15th, and failed.

Lewandowski is 30yo in 24 hours, and would have been close to £100m, plus, like Higuain (31 in a couple months) we do NOT give multiyear contracts to 30 somethings.

RB Leipzig was talking £100m plus for the unproven (IMHO) Timo Werner and ALSO saying not for sale even then.

Andrea Belotti had a really regressive, bad year last year and Torino refused all offers to all clubs anyway, plus he doesn't want to leave atm.

Ciro Immobile will be 30 in middle of next season,and Lazio dont  want to sell, unless they get close to SMS money (say 125 to 130m euros) which is madness

Thats it

There are no more top quality strikers who are even remotely available under 30

Balotelli on a free? Thats about all we could do with a shut window anyway,

Icardi and then Martial converted to striker were basically IT, and we fucked them both usp

It isnt going to change next window, unless you think Roman will drop the £300m it will take to pull Mbappe from PSG. Over the last 14 yeas, he has spent less than £490m net TOTAL An average of £5m per year. The ONLY years heever spent big were his first 2. Thats it.

In 2 of the last 14 years we actually turned a profit on transfers, meaning we sold more than we brought in, in this case both incoming and sales were shit.

 Several other years we spent like £2m, £7m net total This year will be one of the higher ones ever, and after more are sold of loaned out, it will be in £60m or so total

We either grab Icardi next summer, or Martial, or hope that Werner and/Belotti come good in a huge way and the board tosses the crazy money to one or the other that will be their price-tag after ascendant seasons.

Nothing else is going to work atm.

I could live with a £125m offer for Dybala, Juve will tell us to fuck off, OR string us along all window as they do EVERY WINDOW NOW. I dont see us dropping that kind of quid anyway.

We DO have another option (IF Morata doesnt finally play well from now on)

CHO as a nine

I can see it working, he is bigger and faster than Mertens

Sarri wanted Higuain. So he would be a good choice. Lewa also would be great.

About the age, Diego Milito joined Inter when he was 30. And we all know what he did for them.

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Sarri wanted Higuain. So he would be a good choice. Lewa also would be great.

About the age, Diego Milito joined Inter when he was 30. And we all know what he did for them.

He didn't join a new league at that age, so it's a different story.

 

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2 hours ago, Special said:

Sarri wanted Higuain. So he would be a good choice. Lewa also would be great.

About the age, Diego Milito joined Inter when he was 30. And we all know what he did for them.

Yes, but the board is not going to pay that type of money for players over 30.

We did try to buy Higuain, he said no. He didnt want to leave Italy, plus we would not give him a long term contract. Bayern simply said NO to all teams in regards to Lewandowski. They refuse to sell him now. They think they will win the treble this year (they do every year, lol)

So, again, what do you suggest we do? I am resigned to the fact that Morata is our striker.

We had legit shots to fix this (no, not Higuain or Lewandowski, which died on the vine from the other end, not ours per se)

We could have met Icardi's £98m release clause. The board stupidly refused. The other legit (if unorthodox) plan was to either sell Willian to Barca for £65m and then pay cash for Martial, or to do the swap deal for him. The board fucked that up too.

4 players, 4 options, 2 the board, our board, fucked up, and 2 the other side refused to play ball.

Higuain deal is now perma-wrecked, he will never play here. Icardi CAN, but now, in July 2019, his release clause for 2 weeks is even higher than it was in 2018. We should still move for him. The board will not, I simply do not see it happening. 

To have ANY hope to get him or Werner, we have to be able to offer CL. They will not come if we cannot offer that, UNLESS both Inter and RB Leipzig have bad years as well. Leipzig may, but we do not even know if Werner is the real deal.

Willian also will, next summer, be worth at least £15m less than thsi year. He will be 31 at season start in 2019. Zero chance we get more than £50m for him at that point.

Also, the board, inanely, is talking about giving him an extension!!! OF ALL the fucking players to finally break the 30-something rule over, it is WILLIAN???!!!

Morata MUST come good in a huge way.

The only legit options if he doesnt are the same as thsi summer. Minus Higuain. Maybe the board will break down and pay £80-100m for a 31 yo Lewandowski. Maybe pigs will fly, lolol

 

In order, the best 2019 options

 

Tier one (ie Morata doesn't stop being shit)

1 Icardi

2 Martial

3 Werner

4 Belotti

5  Ciro Immobile (fuck his age, give him a 4 year deal, and this year was the best to do that) <<< big issue, SMS will probably leave Lazio next summer and they will never give up both in same window

 

Tier 2 (Morata doesn't stop being shit)

Truly insane ones (insane in that we will NEVER spend this type of cash and the teams will never sell these to us nor will the players probably come) are:

1 Mbappe

2 Dybala

3 Griezmann

4 Firmino

5 Harry Kane

 

 

Tier 3 (Morata doesn't stop being shit)

We start a series of signing ageing players to one year contracts (this is desperation move btw and I HATE IT)

1 Lewandowski (will be probably 2 years from now, not next summer)

2 Edinson Cavani

3 Luis Suárez (zero chance till a couple year older I think, he is a Barca lifer)

4 Karim Benzema

5 Dries Mertens

6 Edin Dzeko

7 Jamie Vardy

etc etc

 

Tier 4 (Morata doesn't stop being shit)

Start grasping at straws and buy young strikers or not so top level and hope they come good  (I HATE THIS)

 

Tier Five  Morata comes good, issue solved for 5 or so years

Those are literally all the options

 

which would you do?

Higuain is off the table, Lewandowski will not be let go until 2020 window I am almost positive AND we will not pay what Bayern demands as he will be 32 They (Bayern) MAY go in and grab Icardi or Dybala or Werner, which would further fuck us

what would you do?

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