Álvaro Morata

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I dont like being proven wrong but in this case I do. What a player he is. 

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On 11/5/2017 at 10:46 PM, Amblève. said:

The disrespect for Drogs though. His close control is one of the best ever in Premier League history.

No it isn't.

He is a professional footballer. All pro players are capable of great things and The Drog certainly was and is. There are many, many examples of outstanding control throughout his Chelsea career but there are more of poor touch. Look at Rom. His supporters could make a long highlight vid featuring moments of great technical excellence, yet all people who have watched him play know that such a video would give the wrong impression of Lukaku's overall standard. The Drog over Rom all day, everyday, but was his close control among the Premier League's best ever? Absolutely not.

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7 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

No it isn't.

He is a professional footballer. All pro players are capable of great things and The Drog certainly was and is. There are many, many examples of outstanding control throughout his Chelsea career but there are more of poor touch. Look at Rom. His supporters could make a long highlight vid featuring moments of great technical excellence, yet all people who have watched him play know that such a video would give the wrong impression of Lukaku's overall standard. The Drog over Rom all day, everyday, but was his close control among the Premier League's best ever? Absolutely not.

Who do you think were the best?

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Who do you think were the best?

Berbatov.

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Morata lives with his wife in the Chelsea and Kensington Borough and told Cadena Ser radio: "I live five minutes away from the stadium [Stamford Bridge]. Sometimes after the game is over and the road is closed to traffic, I walk home. I just change my clothes, I take my Chelsea gear off as otherwise it would be impossible, put a hat on as it's colder there [than in Madrid] and walk home.

"If we win the game, I even take a beer with me to have while walking home!"

What a lad.

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3 hours ago, 11Drogba said:

Who do you think were the best?

Dennis Bergkamp

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23 minutes ago, Blusan Alamb said:

Dennis Bergkamp

I thought of him first, too. But wasn't he more of a second-striker, not really #9?

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7 hours ago, El P. said:

I thought of him first, too. But wasn't he more of a second-striker, not really #9?

The question is not about the best one. He said Drogba isnt among the best, so I am asking ten names.

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12 hours ago, 11Drogba said:

Who do you think were the best?

Remembering that we’re talking about quality of close control specifically, and not necessarily about overall impact, then, in no particular order; Henry, Bergkamp, Suarez, Ibrahimovic, Van Nistelroy, Van Persie, Zola, Gudjohndon, Aguero. 

I did think about it for a few minutes, but I’m sure I’ve missed more than one who I would include in my list if I was reminded about them. 

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3 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Remembering that we’re talking about quality of close control specifically, and not necessarily about overall impact, then, in no particular order; Henry, Bergkamp, Suarez, Ibrahimovic, Van Nistelroy, Van Persie, Zola, Gudjohndon, Aguero. 

I did think about it for a few minutes, but I’m sure I’ve missed more than one who I would include in my list if I was reminded about them. 

Different type of players, who played also as number 10s or on the sides. As a pure number nine Drogba had great close control, one of the best in PL history 

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On 10.11.2017 at 11:49 AM, OhForAGreavsie said:

No it isn't.

He is a professional footballer. All pro players are capable of great things and The Drog certainly was and is. There are many, many examples of outstanding control throughout his Chelsea career but there are more of poor touch. Look at Rom. His supporters could make a long highlight vid featuring moments of great technical excellence, yet all people who have watched him play know that such a video would give the wrong impression of Lukaku's overall standard. The Drog over Rom all day, everyday, but was his close control among the Premier League's best ever? Absolutely not.

I vehemently disagree with that notion. In my time as a PL fan (past 10-15 years) I have seen only a few players who were able to move with the ball at their feet with such precision and efficiency as Drogba; rarely did a touch of his feel wasted when he was in control of the ball.

Having seen you listing someone like Van Nistelrooy among the PL players you claim had a better close control than Drogba though, it'll be for the best if we just agree to disagree

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1 hour ago, Amblève. said:

I vehemently disagree with that notion. In my time as a PL fan (past 10-15 years) I have seen only a few players who were able to move with the ball at their feet with such precision and efficiency as Drogba; rarely did a touch of his feel wasted when he was in control of the ball.

Having seen you listing someone like Van Nistelrooy among the PL players you claim had a better close control than Drogba though, it'll be for the best if we just agree to disagree

Then you can't have been watching very closely, or more likely your memory has gone into highly selective mode.

Sorry to be so definite about this but it's the only way to express how strongly I disagree on this point. Think we'll have to leave this in the agree to differ pile. But...

Check the action at around 4:15 in the video below. Anyone who has been watching Chelsea since 2004 has seen hundreds of such examples, and I do not exaggerate.

It is worth watching the whole video if you're so inclined because it includes more positive contributions from The Drog. I'm not saying he didn't find ways to be effective. He did. Sometimes devastatingly so. He just wasn't the ultra smooth technician I'm reading your comments to be suggesting he was/is.

That video wasn't selected to make my point. It was the first listed when I searched YouTube for "Drogba Vs".

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Just scored for Spain against Costa Rica. Collided with the keeper for the goal and looks alright. Not injured!

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5 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Then you can't have been watching very closely, or more likely your memory has gone into highly selective mode.

Sorry to be so definite about this but it's the only way to express how strongly I disagree on this point. Think we'll have to leave this in the agree to differ pile. But...

Check the action at around 4:15 in the video below. Anyone who has been watching Chelsea since 2004 has seen hundreds of such examples, and I do not exaggerate.

It is worth watching the whole video if you're so inclined because it includes more positive contributions from The Drog. I'm not saying he didn't find ways to be effective. He did. Sometimes devastatingly so. He just wasn't the ultra smooth technician I'm reading your comments to be suggesting he was/is.

That video wasn't selected to make my point. It was the first listed when I searched YouTube for "Drogba Vs".

I totally agree. Drogba was good with the ball, but that's it. I mean... Dude was strong as a bull, and actually fast enough (at least when he was younger than 30). If his dribbling/ball control/close control were that great, it would mean that he had strength, speed, and great technique - full package -  which wasn't the case. He mainly used his strength, and even when he'd failed to control ball perfectly, he was just too strong in shielding the ball with his body.

Berbatov, Henry and Ibrahimović are the best examples of Godish ball controlling, and Drogba wasn't so close to that level. Van Persie was also brilliant, but he didn't keep that level for so long as others mentioned.

I think Drogba and Morata are in same bracket, ball controlling-wise. But, Morata is sure better and faster dribbler.

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47 minutes ago, Jason said:

Just scored for Spain against Costa Rica. Collided with the keeper for the goal and looks alright. Not injured!

Phew. We don't need any more injuries that's for sure.

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1 minute ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Phew. We don't need any more injuries that's for sure.

Already taken off at HT. So that's a relief!

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31 minutes ago, Leif said:

 

That's wonderful!