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  1. 1. Who is your Man of the Match?

    • Courtois
      2
    • Ivanovic
      2
    • Cahill
      0
    • Luiz
      3
    • Azpilicueta
      0
    • Kante
      8
    • Matic
      2
    • Oscar
      2
    • Willian
      0
    • Hazard
      1
    • Costa
      10
    • Pedro (sub)
      0
    • Fabregas (sub)
      0
    • Moses (sub)
      0


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44 minutes ago, ElCholo said:

Conte is a fraud. There was no tactical genius at the touchline, only a schoolboy sleeping and doing shit all. 

He was tactically outclassed by Klopp who isn't a tactical genius either. What will Conte do against the Guardiolas and Mourinhos?

 
 

Tactically speaking he's not a fraud but it seems that he might not be as good as we were hoping for either. Tonight felt like a CL game and we all know what his CL record is like. 

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6 minutes ago, Essien19 said:

Nah i don't think the game was that bad. Pool are no newbies, today they were better, but they didn't have many shots on target. Chelsea had the chances to get the draw or even better. There were combinations in small space, Chelsea upped their attacking play, poor days do happen at the office.

I can't understand much of the criticism Conte's already receiving. I'm not sold on Fabregas, don't think the substitutions showed much. So far i think Conte's doing a good job, the so-called useless Matic was part of the reason for Costa's goal. Costa kept his calm, Luiz played well, big save from Courtois.

Conte's doing things differently compared with Mourinho. People should appreciate him more, it really is a different approach. Chelsea will continue to win lots of games this season, no one wants to play against this team.

I really like you and appreciate your opinion but Conte is turning into Mourinho of the third season and Mourinho at least delivered us the league. With such performances I doubt we get into the Top 4. Conte is overrated.

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10 minutes ago, Essien19 said:

Nah i don't think the game was that bad. Pool are no newbies, today they were better, but they didn't have many shots on target. Chelsea had the chances to get the draw or even better. There were combinations in small space, Chelsea upped their attacking play, poor days do happen at the office.

I can't understand much of the criticism Conte's already receiving. I'm not sold on Fabregas, don't think the substitutions showed much. So far i think Conte's doing a good job, the so-called useless Matic was part of the reason for Costa's goal. Costa kept his calm, Luiz played well, big save from Courtois.

Conte's doing things differently compared with Mourinho. People should appreciate him more, it really is a different approach. Chelsea will continue to win lots of games this season, no one wants to play against this team.

what irritates me most with Conte is the timing of the subs, late subs wont save you everytime. Cheers

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4 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

I think as a whole we are very, very one dimensional. 

Apart from few players, we are simply to inconsistent. We all know how good is Hazard, that Oscar can put in great attacking performance, that Willian can put in great warrior display for whole night to help his team, but sadly it happens every 5th game.

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  • This team is still so mentally weak, it's frustrating. The starting XI today should've been good enough to not lose to Liverpool but they started really strong, scored a goal (thanks to that ridiculous defending) and the team went into their shells. Conte must've yelled at them or something because the 2nd half were much better, so at least that's an improvement from last season where we would've lost this 3-0.
  • The first goal was a defensive mistake, 2nd was an unstoppable shot (after a poor clearance by Cahill) and on another day those might not happen for Liverpool, but it's the way we allowed Liverpool to dominate is what's frustrating in that 1st half.
  • Was also frustrating that we didn't really push even harder after Costa's goal.
  • I can kind of make sense of why Conte makes subs late in the game, maybe trying to inject a final push that sacrifices the defense and leave little room for the opposition to react, when it works it works but when it doesn't it really looks stupid. The subs were simply too late for this game and it didn't work in the end. After the goal would've been a good time or after we lost that push around the 70th minute, at the very latest.
  • There are some signs of improvements that are hard to notice when you are losing but we are only 5 games in, no way this team could do 180 turn from last season this fast.
  • There are simply too many average players at the moment that are holding us back. The only change that can be made is probably Cesc on for Oscar and risk that slight weakness in midfield. At first I thought Alonso shouldn't be thrusted into a game this big but after watching Ivanovic I changed my mind. Not only was he crap both in defense and attack, he didn't act like how a captain should.
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4 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Apart from few players, we are simply to inconsistent. We all know how good is Hazard, that Oscar can put in great attacking performance, that Willian can put in great warrior display for whole night to help his team, but sadly it happens every 5th game.

Why inconsistent ?
'pool and West Ham are not the same thing.
Also 'pool are peaking right now in terms of form.
What happens is we don't have a squad that is 100% championship material. 5 players are good for a "world's best" selection, 6 are for lower divisions or for the first divisions of some other continent. We are in that sort of unhappy situation at the moment.

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14 minutes ago, ElCholo said:

I really like you and appreciate your opinion but Conte is turning into Mourinho of the third season and Mourinho at least delivered us the league. With such performances I doubt we get into the Top 4. Conte is overrated.

You already said it, we're talking about one game.

Why are so saying that Conte's turning into a Mourinho of last season?
The spirit is completely different, the attacking play is on another level, i for one had in most games so far the feeling Chelsea could always score. I'm really of the opinion that some things are different, despite that i would have stood by Mourinho, Conte is an interesting one, there're changes and he should be given at least half a season before pulling out the gun.

Maybe you're saying it because of the substitutions. Batshuayi should have been brought on, but otherwise Chelsea's options on the bench don't instill confidence to me.

Manchester City are looking fantastically.
I guess saying Mourinho's United will finish in the top 4 isn't outrageous.
Klopp is also a contender, but the other teams aren't better. Conte can also beat the aformentioned ones. Top 4 is safe and sound for Chelsea this time around.

We'll see mate, we'll see.

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1 minute ago, Azpinator said:

The way some people talk about Zouma makes me think we have fucking Maldini in our ranks!

He's fine but far from being the solution to our defence dilemma.

He is a Maldini or Gatuso imo, but is he ok ?

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finish top4 this season win a cup , Conte gets afew world class players in ,brings in afew loanees into the fold and we are a real force .imho.

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5 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Why inconsistent ?
'pool and West Ham are not the same thing.
Also 'pool are peaking right now in terms of form.
What happens is we don't have a squad that is 100% championship material. 5 players are good for a "world's best" selection, 6 are for lower divisions or for the first divisions of some other continent. We are in that sort of unhappy situation at the moment.

Agree 100000% ! :) We probably have to realise that our squad is pretty poor compared to City, United or Arsenal. But we have to change underperforming players and bring fresh faces from the bench (Moses, Fabregas, Chalobah, RLC, Alonso)

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10 minutes ago, Essien19 said:

You already said it, we're talking about one game.

Why are so saying that Conte's turning into a Mourinho of last season?
The spirit is completely different, the attacking play is on another level, i for one had in most games so far the feeling Chelsea could always score. I'm really of the opinion that some things are different, despite that i would have stood by Mourinho, Conte is an interesting one, there're changes and he should be given at least half a season before pulling out the gun.

Maybe you're saying it because of the substitutions. Batshuayi should have been brought on, but otherwise Chelsea's options on the bench don't instill confidence to me.

Manchester City are looking fantastically.
I guess saying Mourinho's United will finish in the top 4 isn't outrageous.
Klopp is also a contender, but the other teams aren't better. Conte can also beat the aformentioned ones. Top 4 is safe and sound for Chelsea this time around.

We'll see mate, we'll see.

People forget also that klopp is almost two seasons here. He did not started that well either. 

If Liverpool show consistency they might win it. Because they have no European football. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Fernando said:

People forget also that klopp is almost two seasons here. He did not started that well either. 

If Liverpool show consistency they might win it. Because they have no European football. 

 

Of couse it's a possibility, but i don't think they have the depth for it.

There team is full of energy, on their day they will take off points from almost anyone in the league, imo.

One thing is for sure, Klopp is top notch!

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1 hour ago, Essien19 said:

Nah i don't think the game was that bad. Pool are no newbies, today they were better, but they didn't have many shots on target. Chelsea had the chances to get the draw or even better. There were combinations in small space, Chelsea upped their attacking play, poor days do happen at the office.

I can't understand much of the criticism Conte's already receiving. I'm not sold on Fabregas, don't think the substitutions showed much. So far i think Conte's doing a good job, the so-called useless Matic was part of the reason for Costa's goal. Costa kept his calm, Luiz played well, big save from Courtois.

Conte's doing things differently compared with Mourinho. People should appreciate him more, it really is a different approach. Chelsea will continue to win lots of games this season, no one wants to play against this team.

Well said.

People are commenting as if they don't realise the problems in the squad yet we all know that's just not true. Everyone here, and I mean everyone, knows only too well that there are many more questions than answers in this group.

Those who yearn for, and call for, a more aggressive style of play have their hearts in the right place but this group of players are not able to deliver that dream. Instead of continuing to blame Jose, or starting to blame Antonio, I hope people will  be more understanding about the tough place our club is in. The situation reminds me of that old joke where a motorist is lost on the way to the Irish capital and stops to ask directions. "If you want to get to Dublin", came the reply, "you really shouldn't start from here".

Well, we are here and we have to get on with it. Off the pitch, we need to up our game in terms of identifying genuine quality. On the pitch we need to get Alonso into this side as soon as possible. He is not a perfect footballer but getting him into the lineup will, in my opinion, make more of an improvement then any other single change from within the current squad. That's my prescription anyway. He will certainly start on Tuesday night. After that, we shall see.

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1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

I think we have some outdated players. For example Ivanovic. Even in his best, I would still prefer a dynamic, quick, powerfull/skilled full back ala Cole, Aurier, Alaba, Clyne etc...

And we sign Alonso. Man, I realy wish we had someone like Clyne. Azpi, Iva and Alonso. That has to be the slowest, worst offensive set of fullbacks in history.

Then there are Matic and Cesc who turn like ship.

Matic is actually big and slow but what's fabregas' excuse?! Big fat ass?! :) Sorry but that's been taken already... Iva

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