John Terry

[Jase 43,479]

Think Terry got a little carried away after the game, saying we feel like champions. Mourinho was kinda upset about it.

[Jase 43,479]

Think Terry got a little carried away after the game, saying we feel like champions. Mourinho was kinda upset about it.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

When bae looks upset...

[DoubleO 192]

Think Terry got a little carried away after the game, saying we feel like champions. Mourinho was kinda upset about it.

Umm, I think he didn't say that. He said that victories like today are a sign of champions, but he didn't say that the players are feeling like champions. Instead, he was saying that it's not done yet and he was already speaking about our next fixtures.

[Leif 6,006]

"Football is about mathematics" and that in a nutshell is where our philosophies clash, Jose.

[lionsden 4,689]

There's nothing more to add that hasn't already be said but what I will say though is there has to be a balance between good football and parkimg the bus. At what point does it enter the territory of "overdoing it". This tactic is acceptable for a top team under certain circumstances like managing through difficult and hectic run of fixtures I.e UCL, the league and other cup competitions and in situations where the players are too tired to press but to make it your only tactic in big games is not only overdoing it but shows a distinct lack of tactical flexibility and respect for the fans who have paid good money to watch their team play.

And I still stand by my belief that negative football is cowardly and taking the easy way out. I know some will say if parking the bus was easy, why aren't other managers capable of doing it successfully apart from jose and my response to that is, no other manager (apart from rafa, who had a great run in the ucl with liverpool) have attempted to employ such tactics when managing a top top club. Jose and rafa are the only manager stubborn and shameless enough to stick to it at the highest level of football. Clubs like bayern, barca,real,utd, ajax (when they were a top club) wouldn't tolerate such football from their managers and rightly so.

[Jase 43,479]

Umm, I think he didn't say that. He said that victories like today are a sign of champions, but he didn't say that the players are feeling like champions. Instead, he was saying that it's not done yet and he was already speaking about our next fixtures.

Right. Fair enough. Just saw the interview. Should have known better not to trust journalists!

[Tomo 21,733]

There's nothing more to add that hasn't already be said but what I will say though is there has to be a balance between good football and parkimg the bus. At what point does it enter the territory of "overdoing it". This tactic is acceptable for a top team under certain circumstances like managing through difficult and hectic run of fixtures I.e UCL, the league and other cup competitions and in situations where the players are too tired to press but to make it your only tactic in big games is not only overdoing it but shows a distinct lack of tactical flexibility and respect for the fans who have paid good money to watch their team play.

And I still stand by my belief that negative football is cowardly and taking the easy way out. I know some will say if parking the bus was easy, why aren't other managers capable of doing it successfully apart from jose and my response to that is, no other manager (apart from rafa, who had a great run in the ucl with liverpool) have attempted to employ such tactics when managing a top top club. Jose and rafa are the only manager stubborn and shameless enough to stick to it at the highest level of football. Clubs like bayern, barca,real,utd, ajax (when they were a top club) wouldn't tolerate such football from their managers and rightly so.

Fergie employed the tactics many times at United, including at The Nou Camp in 2008 with his best ever team, LVG did it in the WC semi.

Infact the way we set up yesterday reminded me of how Ancelotti use to set us up against Arsenal, allow them possession were they can't hurt us and then hurt them on the counter.

[iseah100 5,612]

Fergie employed the tactics many times at United, including at The Nou Camp in 2008 with his best ever team, LVG did it in the WC semi.

Infact the way we set up yesterday reminded me of how Ancelotti use to set us up against Arsenal, allow them possession were they can't hurt us and then hurt them on the counter.

Nope. Jose is a coward and he should play proper football like City and Arsenal.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Nope. Jose is a coward and he should play proper football like City and Arsenal.

not sure if serious or taking the piss...

[Victor Von Doom 258]

<3

[iseah100 5,612]

not sure if serious or taking the piss...

That's the fun of the internet, no?[emoji23] [emoji13]

[Jase 43,479]

Fergie employed the tactics many times at United, including at The Nou Camp in 2008 with his best ever team, LVG did it in the WC semi.

Infact the way we set up yesterday reminded me of how Ancelotti use to set us up against Arsenal, allow them possession were they can't hurt us and then hurt them on the counter.

Don't forget that Ancelotti set Real Madrid up to play on the counter against Bayern last season too. Only had 28% of the possession in the first leg at the Bernabeu...

[iseah100 5,612]

Don't forget that Ancelotti set Real Madrid up to play on the counter against Bayern last season too. Only had 28% of the possession in the first leg at the Bernabeu...

He set up to counter with the most expensive squad of all time. Hmm.

[lionsden 4,689]

Fergie employed the tactics many times at United, including at The Nou Camp in 2008 with his best ever team, LVG did it in the WC semi.

Infact the way we set up yesterday reminded me of how Ancelotti use to set us up against Arsenal, allow them possession were they can't hurt us and then hurt them on the counter.

It's really annoying how you use exceptions to make your point. so because a few managers used similar tactics once in a bluemoon somehow detracts from the point I was making? Arsene wenger also defended deep against City this season and against dortmund last season, does that also make him a pragmatist who has no appreciation for the quality of football his team plays in big games like Jose as well?

Perhaps I should have used the qualifier, Jose and Rafa are the only two managers shameless and stubborn enough to play defensive football at the top level on a consistent basis. I'm 100 percent certain that those clubs I listed would not tolerate their managers using Jose's tactics in majority of their big matches as often as jose does.

Top clubs set high standards and take performances very seriously, we are the only top club in europe that accepts winning at all cost and sets extremely low standard as far as the overall quality and performances is concerned and without a clear identity.

[Laugh1ngMan 393]

There's nothing more to add that hasn't already be said but what I will say though is there has to be a balance between good football and parkimg the bus. At what point does it enter the territory of "overdoing it". This tactic is acceptable for a top team under certain circumstances like managing through difficult and hectic run of fixtures I.e UCL, the league and other cup competitions and in situations where the players are too tired to press but to make it your only tactic in big games is not only overdoing it but shows a distinct lack of tactical flexibility and respect for the fans who have paid good money to watch their team play.

And I still stand by my belief that negative football is cowardly and taking the easy way out. I know some will say if parking the bus was easy, why aren't other managers capable of doing it successfully apart from jose and my response to that is, no other manager (apart from rafa, who had a great run in the ucl with liverpool) have attempted to employ such tactics when managing a top top club. Jose and rafa are the only manager stubborn and shameless enough to stick to it at the highest level of football. Clubs like bayern, barca,real,utd, ajax (when they were a top club) wouldn't tolerate such football from their managers and rightly so.

So you are basically saying you would have to be a brave person to do it at a top club and playing like the fans want you to is the easy way

[lionsden 4,689]

So you are basically saying you would have to be a brave person to do it at a top club and playing like the fans want you to is the easy way

Im saying it's infinitely harder and more impressive to achieve success playing good, high quality football consistently aka winning with style than it is to win ugly/at all cost hence taking the easy way out.

[LondonsFinest 692]

It's really annoying how you use exceptions to make your point. so because a few managers used similar tactics once in a bluemoon somehow detracts from the point I was making? Arsene wenger also defended deep against City this season and against dortmund last season, does that also make him a pragmatist who has no appreciation for the quality of football his team plays in big games like Jose as well?

Perhaps I should have used the qualifier, Jose and Rafa are the only two managers shameless and stubborn enough to play defensive football at the top level on a consistent basis. I'm 100 percent certain that those clubs I listed would not tolerate their managers using Jose's tactics in majority of their big matches as often as jose does.

Top clubs set high standards and take performances very seriously, we are the only top club in europe that accepts winning at all cost and sets extremely low standard as far as the overall quality and performances is concerned and without a clear identity.

So, you care more about being a morale winner , rather than a real winner? Because, as far as my knowledge is spread, that every single footballer on the Earth, would give their right arm to win a title in any means possible, rather than running the oposition ragged, only to miss a couple of chances and lose it at the end. Morale wins are for people who don't have a winning mentality. If you can accept a loss, then that is pathetic, because no one remembers number 2, EVEN if you are fucking amazing like, say, Brazil 2002.